Palin Says 'War on Christmas' Is Being Waged

JiggyPotamus
I rarely agree with Republicans on many things, but the whole not saying Christmas thing, and instead saying "happy holidays" or whatever, is a complete and utter joke. Can someone explain why non-Christians would be celebrating a holiday at this time anyway? Christmas is strictly a Christian holiday, celebrating the birth of Christ. So someone who does not believe in Christ would not really be celebrating anything, and therefore I don't think that saying happy holidays need apply.

None of this is true. Christmas is a pagan holiday co-opted (re: stolen) by the Christians. Jesus wasn't even born in the wintertime. NOTHING about the Christmas holiday is Christian. Also there are OTHER holidays during this time of year. I'm sure you've heard of a them. You know like Hanukkah. Don't be so narrow minded.

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Trees are a necessary attribute of the archetypical locus amoenus in all cultures. Already the Egyptian Book of the Dead mentions sycomores as part of the scenery where the soul of the deceased finds blissful repose.

Merry Solstice just doesn't sound right.

rickymouse
Merry Solstice just doesn't sound right.

Then say what ever you want! No one cares! I have yet to hear anyone complain because someone wished them a "Merry Christmas"

It's just right wing crybaby whining looking for some bogus reason to rag on liberals. Every progressive, left wing, liberal, tree hugger I know.......still says "MERRY CHRISTMAS' and means it!!

I'm so sick of these hypocrites getting their panties in a bunch about Christmas when they themselves are probably pissing their god off.

Jesus said anyone who puts up a Christmas tree is a heathen:

2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

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Yet not only do the continue to put up a tree, chopped down with an axe, and decorated with lights and ornaments in their home, they spend oodles of cash on presents and even go into debt to do so.

Yes...i put up an xmas tree...yes, I buy presents for people, etc. But I don't follow the teachings of the bible, therefore, I am not a hypocrite.

Any Christian who goes on about a war on Christmas and does these things is, by their own savior's definition, a heathen and a hypocrite.

Sarah Palin also stated that she welcomes the commercialization of Christmas because it's a time filled with Joy. Then in the same breath, she derrides and demonizes anyone who dare acknowledge the holidays celebrated by people of other faiths during this time of year. Way to spread the joy, Sarah! Keep it up!

You guys don't have a monopoly on December! It's not a month exclusively devoted to you. Get over it and move on with your life!

Palin, just another idiot with nothing relevant to say.

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Oh noes a war on Christmas?!

Someone better contact the UN so they can write a really really angry letter about that! We must protect the elves! Think of the elves! Won't someone save the elves?!

Or just, you know, let's not do any of that and get on with our lives.

People don't have to indulge others interpretations of Christmas any more than 1000 Christians are forced at random in every American City to attend a gay pride parade. Why do certain American politicians always relate their issues to religious practice instead of focusing on their economic policy? Oddly enough, crime goes down when people have jobs regardless of it being winter solstice, Christmas, or the sacred lunchtime of luminous the light bulb God.

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Every progressive, left wing, liberal, tree hugger I know.......still says "MERRY CHRISTMAS' and means it!!

Merry Christmas Olaru - and I mean it

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Happy solstice as well - a few more weeks and the light returns...

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Other holidays celebrated in Dec.

Chanukah, Kwanzaa, winter solstice.
Jews, African Americans, Wiccans and other pagan faiths.
Tolerance and respect of others beliefs.
A good reason to say Happy Holidays.

Plus doesn't that include non-sectarian New Year celebrations.

No one looks at the long term oh man no wonder they think were so stupid, truly I sometimes contemplate joining their philosophy. The so called social engineers want to seperate any event that brings us closer together and replace it with something less so. Christs mass is about giving and recieving physical and non physical presents eg love. It brings us together in a sense of familial union. While we are together it makes us much harder to control. Divide us and we are conquered. I suppose we will deserve our enslavement, maybe looking around themselves the new man will wonder why he she is dying so young and perpetually sick but at least they have the newest iphone. that makes it all worthwhile.

I hate Christmas. I was a poor kid. I tried not to be jealous of the other kids, because I knew it was wrong. But I never could overcome that envy. I worked out of poverty by the time I was in my 20's, but I still hate Christmas.

Maybe, Sarah should find a way to bring back the true meaning and people will want to the say the word again.

Palin says buy my book 'cause its full of lots and lots of insane scaremongering lies and stuff, dontcha know?

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... and it makes absolutely no sense to celebrate Christmas in the Southern Hemisphere ... religion has never really been ALL logical
Imagine the mess we'd be in, though, if Christmas was celebrated in June in the Southern Hemisphere There'd be Christmas decorations up all year somewhere, I mean, here in SA they've had decorations up since October.

I don't enjoy what Christmas has become. I may not be religious but I like the prospect of family and friends enjoying time together and doing things for each other (should be a non-thought throughout the year, but, ja, a reminder is fine, too) just wish the bickering and one-upmanship and gift-worthiness and commercialism (of all holidays) would stop.

Rather, I kinda 'celebrate' the seasons, all of 'em. It's summer for us in December that means sunshine, beer-time, braais (Barbeques), out-doors and beaches ...and thunderstorms!!

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This whole idea of a "war on Christmas" I find comical.

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There is a history ignorance here that is so frustrating. For example. Saying "Happy holidays!" Has been around for a very long time. Atleast the last 40 years.

Commercialism of christmas has been a part of the US for as long as there has been a credit card.

Yes in the 80s it did go bananas and became alot more than before. But that was in the spirit of the Reaganism.

The lack of religious content is a strange comment in all of this. Its not a good marketing to call it anything else than related to Santa Claus. What children would even care about christmas if it was all about Jesus? Or even more than 15%

We celebrate the religious faith free at home. And that's fine! That is freedom.

But don't talk about the media and the marked as if this is a war. That is paranoid and naive.

Happu holidays!

Wrabbit2000
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Oh, I see a very definite war on Christmas, myself. It's a cultural thing and about making it 100% commercial, 0% religious and always about profit from marketing. It's a war to ruin anything truly meaningful about it, outside business balance sheets.

Palin is just ripping off other people's crusades. Bill O' started this one years before Obama came to even be known as a name to consider....and as we see here sometimes, some have a near personal mission in life to see religious symbology stripped from all public view or awareness.

They can't do that with Xmas tho. TOOO much money to marginalize that one. So, they commercialize it to the point of meaning little more than happiness as judged by regifting and return lines the following week.

* I'm just wondering.. but top article is 5 days ago and the other two are from November.. I'm sure you have reasoning for calling it breaking news, I'm just curious how?

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It doesn't have to be religious or commercial. If you want it to be religious, great for you and yours. In that same light, great for businesses to try and turn a profit, it is their purpose for existence.

But, the holidays in general should be about being good to each other. Respecting one another. Christmas is about family gathering and spending time together. It shouldn't be about presents as much as family. If you are religious, then certainly that is part of your family celebration!



Palin saying 'creating greater divide between church and state' ... well GOOD. Separation of church and state is mandatory.


I'm all for it being 'winter solstice super holiday celebration for all!' ... because that doesn't stop Christians from celebrating Christmas in a religious way. That doesn't prevent Jewish people from celebrating Chanukah. Or any other religious seasonal celebration ... or those not tied to religion at all from celebrating.


-Your- 'Christmas' cannot be attacked by others ... only you can destroy it. Take the story of the Grinch. Those people were still happy and celebrated Christmas despite the fact he tried to steal it. Christmas spirit is within your heart. How you celebrate it relies on you. Don't concern yourself about the rest of the world, concern yourself about being happy and making your family happy. Advertising, news, decorations, whatever ... if it bothers you, that is a problem you need to deal with yourself, not attack the companies. Freedom. Freedom for them to do as they please, and for you to ignore them and do as you please.

I don't see an 'attack on Christmas' ... just like when Christians made a fuss about Halloween a few times, did I see it as an 'attack on Halloween'. I just giggle at the sillyness of it all, and do as I would do anyway. Celebrate how I see fit, regardless of anyone else. That is the beauty of it all.

If you are highly religious, then you shouldn't have a commercial Christmas anyway. Set up a nativity, teach about Jesus and the story of the three wise men. Teach about being a good person. Teach about giving, not receiving. You can do all of that irrespective of what media and businesses do. Christianity is about faith, family, friends ... it isn't meant to be a pity party or a controlling force dictating what society must conform to. Lead by example, not control.

Happiness is from within, if religious, you can say that is because God is in us all and the happiness comes from God. So go, be happy, be merry.

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas.

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Palin is right on this one.. Here in the uk, the simple word 'Christmas is almost tabu...just in case one offends someone. Sad worl we live in

Pweeky
Palin is right on this one.. Here in the uk, the simple word 'Christmas is almost tabu...just in case one offends someone. Sad worl we live in

No it isn't. Christmas is everywhere in the UK. Just stick your tv on and watch all the Christmas adverts. Christmas trees on sale everywhere, Christmas lights in every town. It's hardly a tabu when it's advertised for 1/4 of the year.

Sarah Palin's waging a war on intellect. Just referrencing her name decreases ones IQ. Sarah Palin = Instant Disregard.