Maritime ‘black hole’: Russia launches new ‘stealth’ submarine!

Did you know that Russia is building submarines that are so quiet that the U.S. military cannot detect them? These “black hole” submarines can freely approach the coastlines of the United States without fear of being detected whenever they want. In fact, a “nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles” sailed around in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks without being detected back in 2012. And now Russia is launching a new class of subs that have “advanced stealth technology”. The U.S. Navy openly acknowledges that they cannot track these subs when they are submerged. That means that the Russians are able to sail right up to our coastlines and launch nukes whenever they want. But instead of trying to find a way to counteract this potential threat, the Obama administration has been working very hard to dismantle the U.S. strategic nuclear arsenal. In the end, we could potentially pay a great price for this utter foolishness.

I just hope we stay friendly with the Russians.

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In the past I have seen many stories about Russian tech and how great it is. The funny part is as time passes it always ends up being a lie.




Don't get me wrong maybe just maybe they finally got something right. But if I was a betting man my money would not be on them.

So because Russia has stealth subs we shouldn't reduce our over burgeoning nuclear stockpile?

There are still plenty of nukes to go around fear not. Tragic as it may be.

reply to post by nighthawk1954


Sounds like the Red October from the Tom Clancy novel/movie.
magnetohydrodynamic drive.
hopefully we have something like that already.

reply to post by SubTruth

Yeah I have to agree with you, but in the world today ...ya never know.

reply to post by nighthawk1954


Trust me if a sub moves it can be detected. No matter how hard you try you cant move through water without creating cavitation. You can minimize it making you have to be closer to the source to detect it but you cant do away with it.

nighthawk1954

I just hope we stay friendly with the Russians.

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I'm confident that the Marxist O is staying VERY FRIENDLY with the Ruskies.

He's probably been co-ordinating their attack plans on the USA for the start of WW3. He probably wants to be away from the White House on some golf course in some tropical island somewhere when the festivities start and he wants to insure that the Ruskies and Chinese cooperate with his plans on that score.

I think if he were any more friendly with the Ruskies or the Chinese, he'd have to lick their feet . . . or elsewhere.

Or............The open admittance of detection inability could be disinformation intended for Russian consumption.

I know if I could detect then I'd sure want everyone to believe otherwise.

I can't find anything nuclear on the sub.
It runs a diesel engine, and it's armament is listed as such:

Project-636 submarines are mainly intended for anti-shipping and anti-submarine missions in relatively shallow waters.

Armed with 18 torpedoes and eight surface-to-air missiles, they have an extended combat range and can strike land, surface and underwater targets.

So actually they won't be used to launch SLBMs.

The news story way over-hyped it's technological capabilities, who would trust a Russian media source about the "quality" of Russian military hardware anyhow? It's as bad as getting news about the US Military from FOX...

Its always more dramatic to let your opponent think they have the upper hand , just before depanting them in front of the world.

nighthawk1954
The U.S. Navy openly acknowledges that they cannot track these subs when they are submerged.

Somehow......

I get the feeling we are being flimflammed and are about to see another US over bloated military project in the works over something they probably have a handle on already simply to keep the overweight Defense Industry Fat and Happy.

I just hope we stay friendly with the Russians.

YAWN....

reply to post by dragonridr


When the US plays war games they cannot find their own subs. Detecting a sub is extremely difficult. It is not uncommon for the crew of a sub to bang the hull with a hammer so the sub hunters can detect them.

MAD(magnetic anomaly detection) censors can often give the general area a sub but its not accurate. If a sub cruises under a large ship then it is very difficult for MAD to detect it.

reply to post by nighthawk1954

Not that I would condone any one dropping a nuke on anyone but I thought well how many ...mmmm 3 ...maybe but if they started blasting every big city within the US I would consider them to be worse that the last country to do something like that .

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Then there was my Navy buddy . . . a LT who, after 11 years, had to give up his Navy career. He kept bombing/torpedo-ing our own subs in war games. LOL. Sigh.

reply to post by BO XIAN


I thought it was common knowledge that the UK fields the quietest/stealthiest subs!

Wow that story sure is full of crap. As has been stated by others this is a diesel sub and yes it is thought to be the quietest diesel sub in the world. However it does not carry nukes, and has a limited range only 400 miles when submerged and 7000 miles when snorkelling. And the Russians have mostly built them to sell to others. The Russians have 1 so far and are planning 5 more but, they have sold them to China 10 of them, Algeria 2 of them and Vietnam has ordered 6 of them. Kind of puts things in perspective eh?

reply to post by andy06shake


I don't recall the chatter from my buddies on that score.

I have heard that SOME diesels were amazingly quiet.

Has anyone heard of exotic propulsion subs? . . . not using props?

reply to post by BO XIAN


Both Sea Wolf and Virginia use a propulsor.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Is that a kind of water pump or what?

like a propellerless boat?

reply to post by BO XIAN


It's a pump jet in the case of Virginia. It pumps a jet of water to propel the boat.