Pizza Hut manager refuses to open for Thanks Giving, gets fired! Happy Thanks Giving Corporate Ameri

starfoxxx

“We respect an employee's decision not to work on a holiday if they so choose, which is why the vast majority of Pizza Huts in America are closed on Thanksgiving,” the company said in a statement.

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Pizza hut does not mention they also have the right to fire you for it..
They should put that in there.
Let people know where you really stand..
I respect the employer and employees rights.

edit on 27-11-2013 by starfoxxx because: (no reason given)

A franchise owner is apparently allowed to make that call without corporate oversight. So a certain Pizza Hut isn't required to remain open that day, but if the store owner wants to it's their call. So they are pretty much telling you where they stand. A vast majority is not the same as ALL. I would think that individual stores would in fact inform new hires which holidays were guaranteed, and which weren't. They certainly would if asked, which I would expect someone willing to lose their job for some turkey would do.

reply to post by Domo1


Back when I worked at wendy's I was also expected to work on thanksgiving. It sucked, but oh well. What sucked even more was seeing all the old people that showed up there on thanksgiving to eat. Obviously had no family to celebrate with. Seemed lonely, a few of them were homeless and saved up for their thanksgiving meal there.

Oops sorry Domo, meant to hit thread reply, not reply to you specifically.

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bigfatfurrytexan

Aleister
reply to post by starfoxxx

 

He's one of those working class heroes who says "No, I will not ask my employees, who are my friends, to have to be away from their families on this holiday. Why? Because I am not heartless, Mr. Scrooge."

Later that night the three ghosts came to see the owner of Pizza Hut, and the next morning he bought everyone some nice healthy Indian food.

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edit on 27-11-2013 by Aleister because: (no reason given)

If your employees are your friends, you are a failed leader.

Work is not about friends. It isn't about social bonds. It is about creating a team that achieves goals. You cannot lead a team that thinks you are their friend. It is all about respect.

That said, remember that respect is simply a mixture (in the right combinations) of fear and love. If your team respects you, then they love you. Not because you let them get away with stuff, or hang out with them on the weekends. But because you make them better than they were. And you do it by being kind to them and empowering them. Love means you trust each other. That is what an employee/employer relationship is.

But that trust can be damaged easily through inappropriate actions/behaviors. This is where the fear comes in. When you love someone, you fear reprisal.

It is about respect. Not about friendship. I fired my sister once for her performance. She didn't respect me professionally, so I had to stop respecting her professionally. Me liking her had nothing to do with it.

What if it was longstanding practice not to be open on Thanksgiving (it was when I worked at Domino's, and it looks like non-franchised (I.E. Directly owned by corporate) Pizza Huts are closed on thanksgiving), and the franchised owners went back on it? While everything you said about the difference between friendship and respect is well and good, a boss that isn't downwardly loyal isn't worth a sack of #.

I used to run a call center, third party taking calls for folks like T-Mobile and AOL. Each year it was different how holidays would run. Out of 400 people, we had maybe a dozen actually complain each year. The rest showed up out of upward loyalty to our management team.

If you really want to be loyal to your employees, then teach them. Make them better. Be clear with what you expect and shoot straight. And empower them to make more and more complex decisions. Your goal for each employee should be to get them promoted somewhere else. THAT is downward loyalty. Teaching them to be obstinate towards ownership is not going to help them at all. You absolutely speak on their behalf, then you drop it if you are told to.

Or not. If you aren't willing to execute the directives of your supervisors, no matter what the job, you are released. Without exception. And anyone arguing that it is wrong has quite the argument to build before i am buying it.

Domo1


A franchise owner is apparently allowed to make that call without corporate oversight. So a certain Pizza Hut isn't required to remain open that day, but if the store owner wants to it's their call. So they are pretty much telling you where they stand. A vast majority is not the same as ALL. I would think that individual stores would in fact inform new hires which holidays were guaranteed, and which weren't. They certainly would if asked, which I would expect someone willing to lose their job for some turkey would do.

This guy thinks him loosing his job over this was for a lot more then turkey.

roadgravel
Bottom line is Pizza Hut top guys do not want to lose some part of the millions they make by closing for a day. You can bet they won't be at work but home with their families.

But the job is doing what they say for the small pay they give a manager. If your working for these jerks then this is to be expected. Welcome to hard core capitalism.

society is so far gone. capitalism led to SLAVERY.. undisputed fact.

the Mgr could have handled it better.. Give away free PIZZA until the restaurant is cleaned out.

At least the owner would feel that some, and then get a group of thugs to "help the owner across the street", ah forget it..

the poor will never learn how to destroy the rich.

starfoxxx

Domo1


A franchise owner is apparently allowed to make that call without corporate oversight. So a certain Pizza Hut isn't required to remain open that day, but if the store owner wants to it's their call. So they are pretty much telling you where they stand. A vast majority is not the same as ALL. I would think that individual stores would in fact inform new hires which holidays were guaranteed, and which weren't. They certainly would if asked, which I would expect someone willing to lose their job for some turkey would do.

This guy thinks him loosing his job over this was for a lot more then turkey.

Oh yeah. He really took a stand. On the day he dies he will be able to reflect on how this had absolutely no bearing on his life other than leaving him without a paycheck.

Taking a stand doesn't feed the kids.

reply to post by starfoxxx


Have gotten shoddy service often enough from there . . . wrong order delivered; missed items in the order etc. This about seals the issue of my doing business there again.

Greed is not family friendly.

bigfatfurrytexan

starfoxxx

Domo1


A franchise owner is apparently allowed to make that call without corporate oversight. So a certain Pizza Hut isn't required to remain open that day, but if the store owner wants to it's their call. So they are pretty much telling you where they stand. A vast majority is not the same as ALL. I would think that individual stores would in fact inform new hires which holidays were guaranteed, and which weren't. They certainly would if asked, which I would expect someone willing to lose their job for some turkey would do.

This guy thinks him loosing his job over this was for a lot more then turkey.

Oh yeah. He really took a stand. On the day he dies he will be able to reflect on how this had absolutely no bearing on his life other than leaving him without a paycheck.

Taking a stand doesn't feed the kids.

No it doesn't.
This guy believes he lost his job over standing up for what's right, being brave, and loyal to his employees.
Is there an instance where you do stand up to corporate (your higher up's/bosses w/e) and say no?

reply to post by HanzHenry


Great advice there. Awesome way to get arrested and sued.

reply to post by starfoxxx


I give this young man a lot of credit for standing behind something he strongly believes in. I also feel it's terrible that corporate America thinks about profits over their employees. It's like the Grinch who stole Thanksgiving! People who work in retail are not slaves, they need time to enjoy the holidays with their families just like everyone else. While these workers are working their tails off, you can bet these corporate owners are relaxing and stuffing their face around a Thanksgiving feast.

My son works at Sears and he has to go in at 7pm Thanksgiving day and work until 2pm on Friday. I thought he misunderstood his boss and it was really 2am, but he said no it wasn't a mistake. He doesn't mind because he's getting paid double time and he needs the money while attending college.

I'm pretty sure they make clear to you when you take the job that it entails you being there for holidays. They generally schedule people so that they get at least one holiday off, and generally they get to pick which.

It's more than I got in the service. My Christmas celebration was generally being cold, wet, hot, hungry, or tired in some combination. I think I was in garrison once and got a decent meal, even got the evening off to go into town. THAT was a Christmas miracle.

Hell, I'll be at work for Thanksgiving. The MIC doesn't give you but one holiday off of Christmas, New Years and Thanksgiving, you get to choose. I chose Christmas. We are having a pot luck dinner tomorrow, though.

/Actually, Munich is sort of cool at Christmas, or was in the 80s

reply to post by starfoxxx


Obviously he did what he felt was right. Sometimes you have to pay a price for doing what you believe.

A business has the right to be open when they want and close when they want, If you don't like the hours you are free to find another job. It would be nice for everybody to be off for holidays but there are actually quite a few people I know who like to work the holidays because it means more money.

The world isn't perfect....... it can't be, because everybody's idea of "perfect" is different.

What are we complaining about? This is the result of naked capitalism?
The American way.

This what we all want, right.

We don’t want socialism or the government telling a private business it can’t enslave its workers…Libertarianism and the tea party philosophy.

Its the way this country is headed, and the nature of greed that capitalism is leading us to.

There is a Television I REALLY want.....a 70" Vizio (I know, it's not the best on the market)....anyhow, I went to my local Sam's Club VIP sale on Sunday...Turns out, I wasn't so much of a VIP; as there were 3000+ people standing in line to get in the door before I got there. Needless to say, I didn't get what I wanted.

ANYWAY...

Walmart has the same TV at the same price starting at 8 PM on Thanksgiving. I discussed this with my spouse extensively.....we, as consumers, decided that we refuse to patronize establishments that force their employees to work on holidays for minimum wage. Me? I'll pass on the $998 TV and, instead, freely choose to pay $1,698 instead. Stupid, huh? Not in our book.

As consumers, the onus is upon us to stop the corporate madness. If we succumb to their "deals" on "special days" that they dictate....guess what? Nobody wins but them.....get that?

Is anything you could ever buy worth that?

starfoxxx

bigfatfurrytexan

starfoxxx

Domo1


A franchise owner is apparently allowed to make that call without corporate oversight. So a certain Pizza Hut isn't required to remain open that day, but if the store owner wants to it's their call. So they are pretty much telling you where they stand. A vast majority is not the same as ALL. I would think that individual stores would in fact inform new hires which holidays were guaranteed, and which weren't. They certainly would if asked, which I would expect someone willing to lose their job for some turkey would do.

This guy thinks him loosing his job over this was for a lot more then turkey.

Oh yeah. He really took a stand. On the day he dies he will be able to reflect on how this had absolutely no bearing on his life other than leaving him without a paycheck.

Taking a stand doesn't feed the kids.

No it doesn't.
This guy believes he lost his job over standing up for what's right, being brave, and loyal to his employees.
Is there an instance where you do stand up to corporate (your higher up's/bosses w/e) and say no?

edit on 27-11-2013 by starfoxxx because: (no reason given)

Absolutely I would, do, and have. People who hire me do so because I have backbone and am to the point when meeting in matters relating to our business. I am not a "yes man", to the benefit of everyone.

That aside, if I chose to make a stand that cost me my job, I absolutely would not go whining to the press, airing the dirty laundry of myself and my former employer. There are no principles or honor in such an action.

people seem so ready to 'stick it to the man' that they ignore that little tidbit.

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to the individual lumping libertarianism into the tea party....that has to be the dumbest thing I have read this week. Congratulations on, er, standing out.

Willtell
What are we complaining about? This is the result of naked capitalism?
The American way.

This what we all want, right.

We don’t want socialism or the government telling a private business it can’t enslave its workers…Libertarianism and the tea party philosophy.

Its the way this country is headed, and the nature of greed that capitalism is leading us to.

This is the result of naked capitalism?

Really?

If there were no customers to serve, there would be no urge to be open on Thanksgiving. It used to be that families felt the need to stay together and spend the day in each other's company on both Thanksgiving and Christmas. We felt we owed it to ourselves and each other as a society to have these days off. This was part, believe it or not, of the moral/religious underpinnings of our society.

So, is this new uptick in greed and loathing of celebrating days together so much a sign of naked capitalism or is it a sign of increasing secularism and a lack of a sense of the sacred?

Many of you want religion and it's morals out of the day to day life of the state, now you have it and you complain at its less desirable effects. This is simply one of them.

reply to post by Isittruee


You sound like a Very Cold Hearted Person . Thanksgiving , A Traditional Day of Thanks to the Supreme Being for All the Things we Americans and Our FAMILIES have been Blessed with Today . ONE DAY out of the YEAR , is that asking TOO MUCH ? ............. !

LOL

He thought he was the boss.

Maybe I should apply at that pizza hut. I'll work holidays.

Hell I used to work 7 days a week, Thanksgiving, Christmas eve(would have worked Christmas if they let me).

How do morons like this become manager when there are hordes of people out there that would make great managers and are willing to work?

They probably checked his credit and because he was living with mom and dad had a clean slate. So they dismissed 17 other resumes where people had blemishes that had long employment records.

sigh.

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No Thanks.......