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FyreByrd
It's very informative and instructive to see how she responses to the negative comments she has received.
DeadSnow
Question: Why do poor people tend to have more children?
If you barely have enough for yourself why the hell would you get a child? & As if one child isn't enough, they go on to get multiple kids? Life is a deck of cards, you get dealt your cards and from there you only have control over your decisions. I've never taken a loan, never will. I'm willing to work my a** off and remain patient until I can afford what I want. Sure the economy is bad but look at all the s*** you're wasting money on!
Again people tend to buy liabilities, instead of assets? Wtf? and we start crying about how hard life is and how we're suffering? You want to make more money? then don't spend all your income on unnecessary garbage.
You don't need the latest fashion, the newest cars or that 60" 3D TV! save up and purchase slowly over time. Make sure you have solid investments in place that generate enough income to cover your living costs. Buy a house and work from there (not literally)....
It really isn't rocket science, decisions are the most important factor in determining ones financial status. There's nothing that makes my blood boil than seeing children suffer due to their parents poor decisions.
OP S+F! Hopefully this will wake up the kids on this site.edit on 25-11-2013 by DeadSnow because: Misread, edited
Cabin
DeadSnow
Question: Why do poor people tend to have more children?
If you barely have enough for yourself why the hell would you get a child? & As if one child isn't enough, they go on to get multiple kids? Life is a deck of cards, you get dealt your cards and from there you only have control over your decisions. I've never taken a loan, never will. I'm willing to work my a** off and remain patient until I can afford what I want. Sure the economy is bad but look at all the s*** you're wasting money on!
Again people tend to buy liabilities, instead of assets? Wtf? and we start crying about how hard life is and how we're suffering? You want to make more money? then don't spend all your income on unnecessary garbage.
You don't need the latest fashion, the newest cars or that 60" 3D TV! save up and purchase slowly over time. Make sure you have solid investments in place that generate enough income to cover your living costs. Buy a house and work from there (not literally)....
It really isn't rocket science, decisions are the most important factor in determining ones financial status. There's nothing that makes my blood boil than seeing children suffer due to their parents poor decisions.
OP S+F! Hopefully this will wake up the kids on this site.edit on 25-11-2013 by DeadSnow because: Misread, edited
Sex is a physiological need and an excellent stress relief. Considering the amount of stress due to poor financial situation, ways have to found to deal with it and well, sex is one of them. Although different ways to prevent pregnancy are quite costly. If I wanted to have sex once a day and earned minimum wage round here, condoms alone would cost over 10% of my salary. Many would prefer to save the money and use the "pull-out" method, but that is not safe.
Among youth also other factors come in. In poorer families parents are nearly always away, working and kids spend most of their with their friends. Considering the hormones, curiosity and often poor sex education, often unexpected pregnancy happen, while mother is not even mature enough to raise a child.
Of course other psychological factors also play role in this, for example daddy issues or simply due to parents not having time to spend with children or are too tired in the evenings, the children seek the intimacy (connection) from elsewhere. Childhood environment plays huge role in the future decisions and development of a child.
The latest fashion, newer cars etc is something I simply see as a cliche, which does not hold in majority of cases. If one earns a minimum salary (or very low), there is no room for such. I agree though that when these are luxuries, although in some cases, it might be significantly smarter buying the more expensive things. Not designer, but quality products. For example, quality shoes, which might cost 150-200 dollars might last for a decade, while some cheap 10 dollar shoes from walmart wear out within a month if there is a lot of walking. Same can be applied to cars and other necessarity items. More expensive products come out cheaper at the end due to longer life. The saying : I am too poor to afford cheap things has significant base under it, although you have to know how to choose quality products like that.
Although up to some degree I fully agree with the article in OP. The problem with the poor-paid jobs. Many of cause a lot of stress and are physically exhausting. Due to lower wage, nutrition suffers, while every day after coming home the person is simply too tired to do anything. Often the days are very long and at the end the person does not even get enough sleep. That can lead to serious health issues in the long run and getting out of such dead-end job is extremely hard, as after the work day there is no energy left to learn to develop oneself for future better job or at least not be productive in it. Learning something while being tired is not productive at all. Add in the poor sleep and nutrition and it becomes even harder to get out. This is also mentally very stressful and for many the only way to deal with it without breaking is by either smoking, drinking, sex, drugs etc.
The system is very tough on the matter and at least I personally see something very wrong in it, as it is very unhealthy for the economy in the long run and not considering that different people have different mental capabilities, different physical capabilities, different mental and physical health conditions. Not everybody are given the skills to become good at something, except menial jobs, however hard they work, they simply do not have the capabilities of moving further, do they have to suffer for the rest of their lives, struggling to make their ends meet, because of bad genetic profile, and from their sorrow enrichen the ones who were blessed with strong genetics and capabilites?
DeadSnow
reply to post by Cabin
Buying condoms sounds a whole lot better than paying for child support for the next 18 years or putting yourself into debt or perhaps forcing your child into a future of crime due to the lack of a proper education and future opportunity. Structure your time well and create an equilibrium between working and pleasure, I'd say 90-10 at most. Like the poster above, I've wasted a majority of my youth in unnecessary relationships with women that liked what I had at the time. What happened? I got over my fear of being alone. I got tired of seeings my peers (that were in severe debt) act like they were multi-millionaires.
I know so many successful people and these men/women are hardworking. They don't go around sleeping with random partners. Surely someone smart enough to become successful would realize the dangers of sleeping with multiple partners after nights out. That s*** is designed for the poor and up-coming, not for the successful. Unless you love you some gold-diggers that are trying to have a baby by you for future financial support.
No I'm in no way condemning sex, all I'm saying is you can live without sex but you can't live without money. What's more important to you? the sex or the success?
P.s anytime you find yourself following the majority, stop and think again....
0bserver1
reply to post by Taupin Desciple
Trust me, there are average people out there who treat their own worse than the people at the top do. They're scum.
I know but evil gets more grip on the lower societies I think but you're right there's good and and bad on every level of society ..but every stone on the pyramid has to bear the one on top of the other, so bottom stones have to carry everything I guess
0bserver1
reply to post by OneManArmy
You're absolutely right , it saddens me when I read stories like hers and yours .. Free housing , energy and health care should be the governments triangle of normal living for every person.
James1982
what is the point of saving up money? To make a single large purchase? That doesn't benefit your life, that's just another gadget to have. Saving money only betters your life if you have enough to live properly in the first place, which poor people don't.
StargateSG7
reply to post by 0bserver1
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I say we Americans, Canadians, and Europeans have it Soooooo Good
here in our first world lives in countries wealthy enough to have a
friend from the Philippines remark:
I wanna go to a country where the poor people are FAT!
So I say to you who abandon hope,
there's poor and there's REALLY POOR!
Or as the economists put it, there's relative poverty,
and then there is ABSOLUTE POVERTY.
WHAT IS ABSOLUTE POVERTY?
1) Being poor is being sold, by your parents,
to a whorehouse that caters to wealthy foreign
tourists. You're eight years old. You're worth $75.
$50 if you have sprouted any pubic hair prior to sale.
2) Being poor is being beaten by your overseer with branches
and bicycle chains, because your diet of unripe bananas
and your living arrangements of twenty to a room, sleeping
on wooden planks, makes your 12 year-old body too weak to
efficiently harvest the cocoa bean with which chocolate is made.
3) Being poor is having a gun and machete put in your hands and
being marched 300 miles to exterminate some strangers in another village.
You do it because you get a whole bowful of rice, actual paper
money sometimes, and get to keep whatever you find in the huts
of the people you've just hacked to death with your machete.
Plus, people from that village were sent by the other warlord
to kill your parents six months ago.
4) Being poor is strangling your first born because
she has a vagina, and you won't ever have the trade
goods sufficient for a dowry.
5) Being poor is living in a shack made from trash and
corrugated metal in the heavily toxic dump by the
maquiladora in which you work to make dress slacks
because your wages aren't enough to rent even the
humblest abode. You look forward to your son --
the one who wasn't born with Cerebal Palsy --
turning 7 because then you'll be a triple-income family.
6) Being poor is having your wife and children shot
while you watch because you tried to organize a union.
They'd shoot you too, but then you'd need to be replaced
on the assembly line. And you wouldn't be able to warn
everyone else away from unionizing.
7) Being poor is depending on roots and magic for healing.
8) Being poor is avoiding the hospital even when there
is one locally, because conditions there are absolutely
septic. At least a magic spell won't kill you faster.
9) Being poor is dying in a factory fire because you were
chained to your machine. Kids your age have a disruptive
tendency to crawl under their workstation to the floor
and take naps if they're not properly chained.
10) Being poor is being left to drown in an inner tube
on the ocean, because that Middle Eastern country
you're so desperate to row to was overwhelmed by
young cleaning maids this year, and therefore they
rounded 100 of your kind into a 50ft fishing boat
and then dumped you into into the sea 500 miles from shore.
11) Being poor is having to walk 20 miles, every day,
to the nearest supply of dirty water and try NOT
to get eaten by the starving Hyenas.
12) Being poor is walking several miles to the local
rice farmer to hull rice by hand in the morning.
When coming home, your mother picks the pieces
of rice that stuck to your sack cloth to cook
for the family dinner.
13) Being poor is working your whole life, sometimes
with a gun to the back of your head, to create the
goods which the poor of the industrial West can't
afford sufficient quantities of to be considered
middle class.
14) Being Poor is when the little girl playing in the
street tells you she lives just down that way, and
passing by three days later to see her whole family
staying on a cardboard mat under the shady limbs
of a dead tree! Half the tree is already gone for
firewood to cook the daily meal of half-a-bowl of
cracked wheat boiled in dirty water.
16) Being poor is discovering the dollar you spent
at the dollar store in the USA on notepads and
pencils made it possible for a kid in Botswana
to stay in school a few more months.
17) Being poor is a woman bathing her baby in public,
using a water bottle from the garbage that she's filled
in a puddle because she has nowhere to go and nothing else.
18) Being poor is watching the girl who's just gobbled
three bananas in a row show utter surprise that
she'll get another chance to eat that day.
20) Being poor is learning how many people
can't afford 'free' public schools. Even clay
tablets require mud and water to make!
21) Being poor is listening to your dad complain
about growing up on powdered milk, and discovering
people who think it's a miracle that they can get any at all.
22) Being poor is watching a woman living on the sidewalk
set up a discarded plastic bottle to collect the water
dripping from the old air conditioner abandoned by American
military forces for drinking water, and counting herself lucky
because she doesn't have to drink from the gutter like
everyone else. Her children will get cancer in five years
from the heavy metals, but they won't die of dysentery next week.
23) Being poor is reassuring the woman who's just turned her
husband into the local corrupt cops for raping her daughter that
she hasn't just condemned her children to death by starvation.
24) Being poor is learning why street kids really sniff glue.
If they beg, find, or steal 6 cents that day, they
can choose between buying breadrolls and stopping the
hunger for a few hours, or the bottle of industrial adhesive
they've stolen from a local factory which will stop them
feeling hunger all day.
25) Being poor is being one of the people that still die of rabies,
untreated and alone in a back room after you were bit trying
to catch one of the already-starved feral dogs as your dinner.
26) Being poor is knowing how much some corrupt businessman
is willing to pay for a virgin in some countries, and what
happens to her after. Then you sell your 11 year old daughter
to that businessman because it means you'll be able to feed
your other 8 kids for half-a-year on that $50!
27) Shelter? The rock outcropping is my shelter!
28) Wood? What’s that? All we have is rocks, sand,
gravel and more rock! ... AND A BLAZING HOT SUN
with no trees in sight!
SO THERE'S POVERTY.....and then there is P-O-V-E-R-T-Y !!!!!