Missing Family Found After Four Years. Demons Involved?

Eryiedes
reply to post by sulaw

 

Pish-posh.
Don't agree with the way the world is going?
Blame the devil.
It's so much easier that way.
Removes all responsibility for people actions or inaction.
And FYI (I don't know why I have to keep saying this) I have indeed looked into it in depth in my college years and guess what?
It was B.S. then and it's B.S. now.
Go watch your "Haunted Mineshaft" show and leave reality to the people with a functioning understanding of science, reason and evidence.

-Peace-

edit on 22-11-2013 by Eryiedes because: Typo

Pish posh... Good one

And your degree from college is in what? The paranormal /wakka wakk? So your the end all master to things that go bump in the night? If so were are your facts disproving, if not just another hoity toity nay sayer with a closed mind who want to throw "I went to college" into the mix.

Is this a debate on why people who claim possession get away with murder? Really? They typically end up in the nut house, regardless of what is claimed or transpired, strapped up in an "I love me jacket"~

Your belittling claim about a functioning understanding of science, reason and evidence. Couldn't have come out more condescending and ignorrant. Taking into account you wanted to throw College in the mix, I would add arrogant.

I don't watch Haunted Mineshaft, but that was a coy statement.

So provide your proof to back up your "Studies" in college or well my dear Watson, it didn't happen.

reply to post by sulaw


Since you asked, my degree was in Architectural Engineering but x-factor and paranormal studies I chose as my electives throughout college since I still believed in god, until the final year when psychic surgery destroyed the instructor's credibility and ended it as a choice for electives.
The rest of your post is just obfuscation.
No factual evidence exists to lend credence to the existance of demons.
None...as in "presenting evidence of demons in a court of law will land you a straitjacket".
The day that changes, your arguement may hold some water but until then, you're just wasting my time.

-Peace-

Eryiedes
reply to post by sulaw

 

Since you asked, my degree was in Architectural Engineering but x-factor and paranormal studies I chose as my electives throughout college since I still believed in god, until the final year when psychic surgery destroyed the instructor's credibility and ended it as a choice for electives.
The rest of your post is is just obfuscation.
No factual evidence exists to lend credence to the existance of demons.
None...as in "presenting evidence of demons in a court of law will land you a straitjacket".
The day that changes, your arguement may hold some water but until then, you're just wasting my time.

-Peace-

An elective in psychic surgery... And you expected that to be real, and it destroyed the instructor's credibility? I'd say it was destroyed prior to taking that class.

Wasting time.... That's funny

So you don't feel left out and we can play "who's is bigger" I'm a Engineer in Chicago w/ a jack of all degree in all construction trades, so logical deductions and using scientific theory is not layman to me, trouble shoot a low pressure boiler and you'll understand more.

So, honestly speaking and /asshats left on the rack. Where did your paranormal studies leave you? Is anything paranormal just heresay? Since you've taken those elective classes and know that psychic surgery is just a farce, that is. Ok I lied about the taking off my asshat... Feel free to put yours back on

What experiances besides reading a book and listening to elective coarses, have you had in regards to the paranormal?

sulaw
An elective in psychic surgery... And you expected that to be real, and it destroyed the instructor's credibility? I'd say it was destroyed prior to taking that class.

I didn't say the course was called Psychic Surgery did I?
No, I said it was called x-factor and paranormal studies.
Nice mischaracterization...so, I can ignore the next few lines.

So you don't feel left out and we can play "who's is bigger" I'm a Engineer in Chicago w/ a jack of all degree in all construction trades, so logical deductions and using scientific theory is not layman to me, trouble shoot a low pressure boiler and you'll understand more.

I didn't ask.

So, honestly speaking and /asshats left on the rack. Where did your paranormal studies leave you?

It was instrumental in deconstructing the god-myth.
What else?
As for you not acting like an asshat? Sounds like a generous proposal but I'll believe that when I see it and not a moment before.

-Peace-

@ Okie-Dokie....thank you for posting that information. Actually a post that is actually related to the topic at hand! And yes, the little girl does have a very odd look on her face. Although I can't tell if she is scared or making a face as some kids do for the camera, but I will go with scared as her family would know best.

Someone mentioned way earlier about how it was strange the McStays that went missing in California were found just before this family was found. I also wonder about the young man from Atlanta whose body was found missing all of his organs. There were some strange things about that as well. www.ajc.com...

Meanwhile I wish some of you would please stop bickering over whether demons exist or not...it really is detracting from this entire thread. Mr. Jamison may have believed in them, and that is all it would have taken for him to act strangely. So please let's let this argument go because regardless, some people believe in them, and some people don't, some worship Satan and some say he doesn't exist and some worship God and some say he doesn't exist. Just agree to disagree and quit taking up space.

I for one would rather hear the details about what happened to these people and why, as well as the others someone else had mentioned earlier.

reply to post by OkieDokie

Thank you for posting something relevant and interesting.

reply to post by opal13



Opal and okie....thank you so much. Have a blessed weekend.

OkieDokie
Thanks for posting this. My family had been following this case and I had not seen that they had found what is believed to be the missing Jamison family. They went missing shortly after we moved over to this area, Eufaula being about 30 miles away. I know this thread has moved more towards the whole bickering if demons are real or not, but this case is strange enough without harping on that one aspect. The demonic was just one of several bizarre things that was brought up when the family went missing.

But by all means let us endeavor into the minds of special and garden variety psychopaths, murders, kidnappers without question.

Eryiedes
reply to post by sulaw

 

Since you asked, my degree was in Architectural Engineering but x-factor and paranormal studies I chose as my electives throughout college since I still believed in god, until the final year when psychic surgery destroyed the instructor's credibility and ended it as a choice for electives.
The rest of your post is just obfuscation.
No factual evidence exists to lend credence to the existance of demons.
None...as in "presenting evidence of demons in a court of law will land you a straitjacket".

Your a college boy so why not admit that you are being intellectually dishonest? You wouldn't know if there was evidence or not. The thought of such being outside your view so therefore nonexistent is some intellectual narcissism. Maybe it scares you.

reply to post by Logarock


No.
What scares me are a bunch of grown adults blaming a series of murders on fairy tales.
It's disgusting and pathetic beyond words.

-Peace-

reply to post by Eryiedes


Not necessarily. It is an interesting story along with the other family that was missing for years and found days before this family was, and the young man found without any internal organs. There are many things, including mental illness and/or illusions/delusions suffered by one or more family member. Fact being, if the father believed he was seeing demons, then that is a valid possibility. Doesn't matter what others believe, he may have believed and led himself and his family to harm.

If you don't agree with any of the subject matter, then don't keep coming back to the thread. Simple as that.

reply to post by opal13


"No internal organs? Only a demon could have done that!"

Poppycock.
Should I also let children play around light sockets with a fork too?
Sorry I am raining on your "Exorcist Revival" parade but this behavior is borderline sociopathic and making excuses for embracing such nonsence is harmful to the human psyche.
It's like poking at the schizophrenic with a stick and saying: "I'm not jabbing you...it's god doing that"
Claimed he saw demons...
I can do that too:

"Star Wars is a documentary."

"Puff the Magic Dragon is real."

"If you eat a mouthful of Poprocks and gulp down some soda pop, your head will explode."

See how easy that is?
Doesn't mean it's real does it?

-Peace-

reply to post by Eryiedes


Good God, you are just looking for someone to argue with, aren't you? Maybe you need to find something better to do and spread your argumentative negativity elsewhere. I never stated demons took the man's organs. Go back and read. None of the news articles say anything about demons or aliens or whatever else.

I just find it odd that two families who have been missing for years are suddenly found days apart, and also that another man was found with no internal organs and no cause of death. I find it intriguing as do some others here on this thread. Most of whom are hesitant to post anything for fear of you enjoying disputing and arguing anything and everything that is said.

The family about which this topic was started, did disappear under strange circumstances and found three miles from where they left their truck, their truck that contained a large sum of money and their dog, yet it took three years to find their remains.

Get a life and troll another thread. I for one am not going to expend any more energy on you, who is obviously starved for attention and incapable of having a mature conversation without disparaging the comments of others.

To the OP and others, it is a good thread and I hope others here can provide some more valuable input on the subject, as I have found it interesting, at least the posts that are relevant to the topic at hand.

reply to post by opal13


I'm sorry reality upsets you but that's all I am sorry about in your case.

-Peace-

reply to post by opal13


Opal, this is indeed a very unusual case. Thank you for posting and as soon as I get any new info I will post it. All this demon talk is making want to watch the movie Frailty.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hey Eryiedes.....I think you might like the above link......its about demons. Boo!!!

reply to post by catfishjoe


Uh.. either it's foul play or they all three killed themselves.
If one killed the other and then himself, i'd consider that foul play.

aprillwood.wordpress.com...

Not really an update but a very interesting read on what several "psychics" think of the case. Some hits and some misses.

The Vagabond
Wow, lots to read there.

So according to the articles, the victims were involved in multiple lawsuits, disability claims, and other questionable legal/financial matters, to the point that they seem to be scam artists.

The husband was alleged to be looking into some other source of money that he didn't want to involve his wife in.

The wife bought a gun privately before the disappearance, and it is apparently unaccounted for, along with a mystery briefcase the wife was seen carrying.

They both lost a lot of weight before-hand and started acting strange- talking about demons/spirits, driving mom out of town and kicking her out of the car, supposedly even doing the paranormal activity style trance walk and stare thing on camera.

The truck sounds kind of staged- keys locked inside, none of the basic pocket items being carried on anyone's person, an 11 page hate letter left behind (how does a letter like that end up in a car that the couple drives around in trying to buy a new house together? doesn't that kind of thing tend to float around the house until it is thrown away at the end of the fight?).

All of this sounds like drugs or some other risky business to me. Why is the money still there then? Well who says its all of the money? Maybe they didn't take their cut to a meet and were only robbed of the actual buy money or drugs or whatever they might have been handling. Maybe they skimmed off the top and got caught.


But on the tinfoil side, this is part of a cluster of disappearances that David Paulides deals with in Missing 411 and talked about on Coast to Coast AM, it does have lots of interesting paranormal facets. A lot of his cases almost seem as if people were lured into danger in places where there shouldn't have been anyone with an opportunity to do so. The area does have a tradition of legends about outlaws and wildmen lurking in the caves. Go any way you like here- did the guy make a deal with the devil and not want to involve his wife? Did nature not want their crap and decide to deal with them?


And then there's the simplest possible explanation- they were bizarre people who went to see about some land, finished, went back to the car and found they had locked in their keys, or maybe thought they'd lost the keys outside the car, so they walked for help or to look for the keys and got lost or injured and froze to death?

That area is known hot spot for method making. Maybe he had a meth lab out in the woods and went to check on it. Ran into some other dealers stealing his stash and was murdered. Then the dealers got scared and booked it out ta dodge.

Logarock

Eryiedes
reply to post by ldyserenity

 

Morning,

Religious people can't be reasoned out of their position with facts because religion wasn't inflicted upon them with reason & facts in the first place.
You are wasting your time...but it is your time to waste.

-Peace-

Oh sure. That's why Duke University had during the 70s and may still have a department that did actual research on demon possession with real live demon possessed people to study. I happen to know of a specific case. Let me tell you they understood it wasn't a joke.

That's interesting. Cite?