Electric Comet ISON - Revealed

poet1b
reply to post by daryllyn

 

Who are you quoting?

It's not news that good scientist don't see the world as absolute.

There is a lot of similar stuff being spouted on ATS.. and in the doom-y/NASA is full of lying, liars that always lie videos from wannabe Youtube "experts" that keep getting posted in the ISON threads (including this one).

I keep seeing it and it bothers me, so I addressed it.

poet1b
reply to post by daryllyn

 

Who are you quoting?

I think I found the answer to your question. In the post you replied to, just before the quoted text, she wrote

(The following is not directed at you, wildespace, but your quote is a gem, and I'd like to use it to prove a point and get a few things off my chest.)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The indications are that she is quoting ATS member "wildespace". I hope that helps.

reply to post by poet1b


Intrepid removed my earlier post, which apparently he thought ill-mannered.

I repeat the essence of it here, which was:

How long does it take a spark to jump a gap?

Meaning — I'd better explain, for the sake of anyone else who thinks some kind of discourtesy is intended — that any electrostatic or electromagnetic interaction would be instantaneous, or it would not take place at all. A spark doesn't take 24 hours to jump a gap.

reply to post by Astyanax


The flares did not last 24 hours.

The 24 hours is the time from the reaction of the sun, until ISON arrived at it's closest approach.

The distance traveled in that 24 hour period is the gap, the distance from the sun when the discharge took place.

This is really simple stuff.

reply to post by daryllyn


There are also a lot of people misquoting others constantly, lying liars who attack anyone who thinks outside of the box.

And there are also a lot of people who post on these boards who state theories as if they are scientific facts. People who say "absolutely not," demonstrating that they are clueless, and yet feel they have a right to attack others.

This bothers me.

No one has absolute knowledge that ISON did not electrically interact with the sun, as it approached the sun. At least no one posting on these boards.

reply to post by poet1b

No one has absolute knowledge that ISON did not electrically interact with the sun, as it approached the sun. At least no one posting on these boards.

Does anyone have absolute knowledge it did "interact electrically"?

I for one am open to the idea but have only come across seemingly random solar activity being labeled "electrical interaction".

poet1b
reply to post by daryllyn

 

And there are also a lot of people who post on these boards who state theories as if they are scientific facts. People who say "absolutely not," demonstrating that they are clueless, and yet feel they have a right to attack others.

Firstly, look up what a scientific 'theory' actually is and what it entails to qualify as one.

Secondly, you are behaving in exactly the same manner as those you criticise when it comes to you defending your opinion. You say 'absolutely not' and scoff at others when they show the various EU claims or sources are less than solid. You're obsessed with 'cover-ups' and conspiracies. Step away from YouTube and have a look what's out there for yourself.

poet1b
reply to post by daryllyn

 

There are also a lot of people misquoting others constantly, lying liars who attack anyone who thinks outside of the box.

People who say "absolutely not," demonstrating that they are clueless, and yet feel they have a right to attack others.

Since when does disagreeing equate "attacking"?

Don't attach your emotions to my words.

I'm sorry if you feel attacked or feel I'm attacking someone else. Only you can decide to let something offend you. I assure you that I am having a great time with the whole comet subject and nothing I am saying has an intent of being mean towards anyone.

No one has absolute knowledge that ISON did not electrically interact with the sun, as it approached the sun. At least no one posting on these boards.

I don't have "absolute" knowledge on that front but.... I also haven't seen anything that warrants thinking ISON had an electrical interaction with the sun.

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


No one is claiming that ISON absolutely reacted electrically with the sun.

While some people claim that ISON did absolutely did not electrically react with the sun.

See the difference?

Science does not live in a world of absolutes.

What we see is ISON approaching the sun, the sun shooting off several large flares, then going quiet as ISON dives in.

This looks like the sun reacted to ISON, which is a prediction of Plasma science.

www.holoscience.com...

poet1b
No one has absolute knowledge that ISON did not electrically interact with the sun, as it approached the sun.

No one has absolute knowledge that ISON was not eaten by invisible pink unicorns, or the space demon living in the sun attacked it....

reply to post by Flaunt


I could explain it like to a six year old, but would it take?

Please post links and quotes that back up your claims about my posts.

Is it that hard to entertain new ideas?

reply to post by daryllyn


When you start making up false quotes, and attributing it to anonymous people who you claim to be responsible for your posting problems, then yeah, it is attacking others.

Lying liars, DING DING DING, that isn't attacking others?

How about a legitimate effort on you part to address the topic at hand. Its all over your head.

But you did claim, "Does that mean the activity was caused by the comet approaching? Absolutely not." Page 14.

poet1b
reply to post by Flaunt

 

Is it that hard to entertain new ideas?

New ideas are essential to our evolution and progression. We wouldn't be where we were without them. However, when an idea starts getting stated as a 'fact' then you have to accept that people are going to question this and want to see testable and repeatable provable evidence.

poet1b
reply to post by Flaunt

 

Please post links and quotes that back up your claims about my posts.

Actually, I will retract my statement regarding this as I was referring to another poster. Apologies.

reply to post by hellobruce


No, they do not.

Maybe you could present some evidence to support your theory of unicorns and space demons.

That would be a good starting point.

reply to post by poet1b

No one is claiming that ISON absolutely reacted electrically with the sun.

I might look into that.

While some people claim that ISON did absolutely did not electrically react with the sun.

I might look into that also. I am not other people and can only speak for myself when I say that I saw no evidence of anything out of the ordinary regarding solar activity. The Sun did what the Sun do, so to speak, comet or no comet.
Any claims of specific electrical interaction should be accompanied by evidence to support the claims.

What we see is ISON approaching the sun, the sun shooting off several large flares, then going quiet as ISON dives in.

Again, seemingly random. If the Sun were to only flare at comets then I'd say you might have something.

To me this is somewhat analogous to someone claiming their proximity to Old Faithful caused it to blow.

reply to post by Flaunt


Nice to see that you can admit the possibility that you might be wrong. It is an important character trait IMO.

Questions are good, slippery attacks are not, and that seems to be the major technique of those who ridicule the Electric/Plasma Universe theories.

poet1b
Maybe you could present some evidence to support your theory of unicorns and space demons.
That would be a good starting point.

What would be a much better starting point is for you to present some evidence to support the claim ISON electrically interacted with the sun.... as so far you have presented no evidence at all!

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


The evidence is out there, and has been provided on the thread.

But no one is going to drag you kicking and screaming to look at it.

reply to post by hellobruce


See numerous links provided in thread.