Chemtrail Forum and the T&C.

a reply to: Phage

My point exactly thank you. At least you admit to disinfo. I dont believe in chemtrails or your belief, what you read about contrails explains what is happening. Nano dispersion... Is a possibility the same as contrails are. Debate is dead until these trails are actually scientifically studied. You act superior and yet play dumb to this fact.

a reply to: 2giveup

At least you admit to disinfo

No.
I said that facts are facts. That is not disinfo.

Debate is dead until these trails are actually scientifically studied

They are studied quite extensively.
scholar.google.com...

Keep up the good work ats and i apologize for the use of a few words. Guess free speech isn't accepted by your t& c. Sometimes i fogert minors might be viewing and these guys generate alot of comments and closed minded discussion for you. Peace.

a reply to: 2giveup

Closed minded discussion?

You're the one proposing the banning of skeptics.

You're the one that's closed minded by the sounds of it.

a reply to: Phage
mLol since nano dispersion would violate treaties and laws i am sure they would post it. Try using a independent data crawler for programs on topic and yes most say in theory. Not to mention i posted links before showing that most meetings/info need security clearance and gag orders. And ps google is for people who want recipes, shoes and such. Thanks again you brought a smile to my face. The link i posted showed the meeting on nano dispersion with leaders in the field of new tech was hosted by the military and by invite only and the technical papers are also highly guarded for security reasons. This only adds s to the conspiracy thanks again virus that attaches itself to things and removes them. That is what your name is right?

a reply to: Chadwickus
The few i refer to are not skeptics. They are debunkers who preach a possibility as being proof.. I try to provoke free thought not the individuals in question and try to make people realize it is actually only a possibility no matter how convincing it sounds. Becuase what they do and the way they do it actually runs people off. Its an attack stlye of debating. do you really think people like having posts picked apart. When one could as easily reply like i do. Peace

a reply to: 2giveup

Hello 2giveup, please contact me here and check your PM inbox.

Thank you.

a reply to: 2giveup

oh FFS - so you read about " nano materials " and instantly jump to - " thats what they are using to spay teh " chemtrailz " "

no evidence required - heck you are even claiming that the absence of any evidence is indication that its top secrit

ans you wonder why this idiocy is not taken seriously .

sheesh

now moving on to other topics

you are the one crying because you dont get to ban anyone who disagrees with you - get over it

ATS does have discussion - if you want true closed mindeness just try posting a dissenting point on dane wiggigntons site

it gets deleted immediatly - i know cos i did it

i posted a rebutall to his claim that last years german fuel dump incident was " teh chemtrails " and it was deleted in about 25 to 45 min

now - question - why is dane so desperate to keep his cult from knowing that it was just a fuel dump ?

The Price Of Freedom

originally posted by: 2giveup
Keep up the good work ats and i apologize for the use of a few words. Guess free speech isn't accepted by your t& c. Sometimes i fogert minors might be viewing and these guys generate alot of comments and closed minded discussion for you. Peace.

It is true that "free speech" in the sense of name-calling, trolling and other forms of off-topic commentary runs afoul of the AboveTopSecret.com Terms And Conditions Of Use, and for several good reasons.

It is also true that ATSers are free to question and criticize any claims posted in these forums, whether that offends someone or not, as long as they also do so in accordance with the rules, and for equally good reasons.

The purpose of this thread is to remind us all of why that is important, and why failing to remember or understand it leads quickly to problems. It is possible for us to cogently discuss controversial topics like these only because we insist on a level playing field for all members.

The argument that only some members should be able to express their views while others must remain silent is an argument against intellectual freedom.

Tolerating different opinions, however uncomfortable that may be, is its price.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: missedinformation

so why cooling down the planet not a problem?

Actually, if anything, contrails may have a warming effect.
news.nationalgeographic.com...

may?

what about cooling down the planet is not a problem?

is it a problem?

global warming and contrails rofl

a reply to: missedinformation

it's about the diurnal range. Contrails and clouds can block sunlight during the day, but trap in heat during the night. So what is the overall effect of clouds/contrails? That is being looked at now. But contrails are still just contrails.

And geo-engineering would not look like contrails, it would look like the after effects of a volcanic eruption.

Since your desire to suppress free speech has been addressed, I'd like to pick up on something else you said.

originally posted by: 2giveup
Contrails are only a possibility of what is happening.

Why do you think this is merely a possibility? That supposes an alternative, credible, explanation. I've never seen one, so I'd like you to provide yours please. I may disagree with it, but I promise to only do so constructively and, if you post something irrefutable, I'll have nothing to say, will I.

I can predict the weather by the trails also havent been wrong yet. And you can to. On aday of clearskys when trails start forming from horizon to horizon and fan out into a haze slash overcast then form types of clouds. As the su sets and the clouds glow purple orange red it will rain the next morning /afternoon. Watch and see for yourself.

Yes, OK. So now, can you expand on why you take these trails to be the cause of the change in weather you predicted, rather then a mere symptom of something that was happening anyway?

Also, why would you expect a contrail to vanish quickly. What is it about persisting spreading trails that means they are not just contrails?

My neighbor just approached me cool as day stating that "he was having problems with Aluminum from the chemtrails", because his doctor told him this, I'm now convinced that he may be on meth....

I have to say thanks to the guys on this site who in arguing with them over the reality of chemtrails and losing, it woke me up to the fact that I had placed far too much trust in dodgy conspiracy sites without doing any research for myself. The lessons learned here in just debating chemtrails have stopped me from being such a gullible fool that believes everything they see on the internet. THANKS!!!

a reply to: OneManArmy



Epiphany. It's good to see through the BS sometimes.

a reply to: OneManArmy

Thanks for giving the opposition a chance and doing your research.

a reply to: network dude

you guys really have your work cut out with the flat earthers, lmao

a reply to: OneManArmy

they make me smile.