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In a LARGE GROUP, the tip IS obligatory...because it requires extra work and attention to LOTS of people all at the same time.
The OP would never dare post what their son says about who the majority is that do not tip!
When that is done to Muslims, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, or many other groups that come to mind, many of the posters riding this "hate train" tend to act appalled. To them I say: Get over yourselves!
Now, I am sure there are millions of Christians who try to actually follow Jesus, but you gotta admit, conservatives always seem to have a reason why they would love to give, but they just can't.
We would love to help the unemployed, but it would discourage working.
I believe in charity, just not for people who need it.
Of course we'd like it if everyone could see a doctor, we're not monsters, but if the government does it, it will destroy our way of life.
Plus, the website is glitchy, which leads to Stalinism.
Oh sure, we'd like to help people who are starving, but what if they use the strength from not starving to take drugs?
wildtimes
reply to post by HanzHenry
Greed and Hypocrisy. That is what the Christian religion is ALL about.
raised as Church of God in the south.
I'm getting the distinct impression that the Southern Christians really are nutters who don't understand what they are saying or doing is NOT "Jesus-emulation." BUT: it is NOT ALL CHRISTIANS. Just that particular...breed.
edit on 11/13/13 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)
So Bill can pretend Christians do not tip.....I assure you, he knows the truth.
wildtimes
reply to post by SasquatchHunter
The OP would never dare post what their son says about who the majority is that do not tip!
What?
Who are you? How the hell do you know what I'd "dare" post? Do you know my son? No. You do not.
My son has told me about people who deliberately fuss and moan to get their meals FREE, too!
I worked as a server for years. I KNOW, MYSELF, what sorts of people don't tip...I don't need my son to tell me. People who don't tip - when they can afford it, and KNOW that the restaurant is a tip-based one - are jerks. I worked at a diner for truckers - the tips were minimal. I ALSO worked as a cocktail waitress for a MAJOR Colorado Ski Resort - and those people who were there for their winter ski trip were NOT LOW INCOME. Mostly, the stiffers were Rich Texans. Our bartender used to actually confront them on their way out if they'd had $300 dollars worth of drinks and then stiffed us. Asshats.
People who are too poor to tip should not be eating out. They should be cooking at home, or going to non-tipping places. If a person CHOOSES to go to a restaurant that pays pennies to servers that RELY on tips, and then doesn't tip just because of some smug "better than you" attitude, they should be refused service.
Poor or no tips are ONLY for abysmally bad food, service, or both.
CHURCH does NOT belong in a PUBLIC RESTAURANT.
windword
reply to post by wildtimes
In a LARGE GROUP, the tip IS obligatory...because it requires extra work and attention to LOTS of people all at the same time.
If the large party doesn't tip, then the server has to pay those employees out of their own pocket.
I've had many a large party that asked for separate checks just to create chaos while trying to pay while some of the group walks out without paying.
When that happens the server is left holding the check. They have "credit accounts" with the company, and they're responsible and must pay their bill, regardless, at the end of their shift. Sometimes the manager will take a "walk out" off your account, but if happens more than once, the server may lose their job.
[I]Sundays are the worst days for large parties and separate checks, as people go out together before and after church. Church people were always the most impatient, demanding and rude customers. The ones that would try to "save me" were usually the ones who tipped nothing. The offer of salvation was the tip! [/I]
I used to say "Sundays, God's day off! He's out playing golf with his archangels and left his cell phone on his desk. He left the Devil in charge and the Devil opened the gates of hell and all the demons come and sit in my section every Sunday!
No I don't think you will ever be reasonable.
Applebee’s fires waitress who posted receipt from pastor complaining about auto-tip
THEY FIRED HER! On grounds the waitress "ruined the pastor's reputation"!!!
wildtimes
reply to post by SasquatchHunter
No I don't think you will ever be reasonable.
That's your misguided opinion. You don't know a thing about me, obviously.
SasquatchHunter
wildtimes
reply to post by SasquatchHunter
No I don't think you will ever be reasonable.
That's your misguided opinion. You don't know a thing about me, obviously.
Your disapproval of religion is so strong you would destroy the first amendment.
Your disapproval of religion is so strong you would destroy the first amendment. Thats not reasonable.
Bassago
SasquatchHunter
wildtimes
reply to post by SasquatchHunter
No I don't think you will ever be reasonable.
That's your misguided opinion. You don't know a thing about me, obviously.
Your disapproval of religion is so strong you would destroy the first amendment.
That's quite a charge against someone. Care to back it up with some actual proof?
Sorry getting OT anyway.
After many years (when younger) in the food business I always was ambivalent about tips. On one hand we lived off them on the other I just couldn't see adding tips right to the bill. If anything I'd have written a note to Applebee's complaining about that.edit on 786am5353am112013 by Bassago because: (no reason given)
We should back down the preconceived notions.
OP is a long time member with a history of being very reasonable.