*very* mysterious mound in Russia. a cone where no cone should ever be!

Really looks like a tremor hole...

Char-Lee
reply to post by zayonara

 

Where do you see signs of water having formed or in any way this?

Not in that photo. Look at the close detail photos. It looks like some sort of solidified mud flow.

MysterX
reply to post by freestonew

 

Tunnel boring machine.

It came up, creating the crater, then for some reason went back down creating the mound in the middle...then stayed there, just under the surface becoming the mysterious cylindrical object.

But...250 years ago?

Is it possible that the Russians had an as yet unknown dabble with early tunnel boring machines (TBM's)?

This is interesting theory. When I lived in Colorado had a friend that worked on Denver airport. Crazy clearance setup, he only ended up participating in one floor down but witnessed some of bore machine parts. There was more than one and different sizes. The bigger caverns under neath were connected by machines that come from other places under ground. The smaller ones came in on trucks above ground.

The cutting bits for these came in four pieces, fitted together like pieces of a pie. The holes are similar to the ones in the picture above but they are much smoother, they were fitted with metal sleeves that made them very smooth. Some apparently we're going to use magnetics, and others like a vacuum, air, kinda like at the bank.

He did not know much more. He left before completion. Things were getting really strange and he was kinda freaked by it all.

If you use certain router bits working with wood you get very similar results, this sounds really plausible.

We will never know. Russia won't let what ever it is be known.

The Bot

dlbott
This is interesting theory. When I lived in Colorado had a friend that worked on Denver airport. Crazy clearance setup, he only ended up participating in one floor down but witnessed some of bore machine parts. There was more than one and different sizes. The bigger caverns under neath were connected by machines that come from other places under ground. The smaller ones came in on trucks above ground.

The cutting bits for these came in four pieces, fitted together like pieces of a pie. The holes are similar to the ones in the picture above but they are much smoother, they were fitted with metal sleeves that made them very smooth. Some apparently we're going to use magnetics, and others like a vacuum, air, kinda like at the bank.

He did not know much more. He left before completion. Things were getting really strange and he was kinda freaked by it all.

If you use certain router bits working with wood you get very similar results, this sounds really plausible.

We will never know. Russia won't let what ever it is be known.

The Bot

So, Denver International Airport is indeed more than just an airport? Maybe not as far-fetched as reptilian but.. connection to other places, some hatches, forgotten doors and entrances, cave passageways, like in Salt Lake City mall. Sounds like a fiction

ImpactoR

dlbott
This is interesting theory. When I lived in Colorado had a friend that worked on Denver airport. Crazy clearance setup, he only ended up participating in one floor down but witnessed some of bore machine parts. There was more than one and different sizes. The bigger caverns under neath were connected by machines that come from other places under ground. The smaller ones came in on trucks above ground.

The cutting bits for these came in four pieces, fitted together like pieces of a pie. The holes are similar to the ones in the picture above but they are much smoother, they were fitted with metal sleeves that made them very smooth. Some apparently we're going to use magnetics, and others like a vacuum, air, kinda like at the bank.

He did not know much more. He left before completion. Things were getting really strange and he was kinda freaked by it all.

If you use certain router bits working with wood you get very similar results, this sounds really plausible.

We will never know. Russia won't let what ever it is be known.

The Bot

So, Denver International Airport is indeed more than just an airport? Maybe not as far-fetched as reptilian but.. connection to other places, some hatches, forgotten doors and entrances, cave passageways, like in Salt Lake City mall. Sounds like a fiction

Yes he verified it is huge under there, the scary part is some of tunnels come in from other areas deep under ground from some huge tunnel machine. He did not see these but knew it was happening. Allot of trucks and materials going down, some of which did not come back up. He would say horns would blow on the level and they knew the big machine would be moving, everything would shake and they would often have fix cracks made.

We heard rumors they even connected to falcon base and norad in springs. If you have ever been there it is incredibly strange, the murals are eery and are of the end of the world. Very creepy for an airport. It kinda freaks you out to see them and then get on plane.

I vote this is from bore hole, most interesting thing it could lol.

The Bot

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lat and long.

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59° 17′ 4.16″ N, 116° 35′ 22.34″ E
59.28449, 116.58954







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geo:59.28449,116.58954

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50V 476613 6571803

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Patomskiy crater (Edit | Report inaccuracies)

freestone

Isn't ten meters the common size given for UFOs?

Whether it's a 30 foot across iron meteor or a 30 foot across UFO, it'd be worth a lot of money to someone. I realize it's about as remote an area as possible, but you'd think they'd get an expedition in there to dig it up.

Film the expedition and you've got yourself a great movie, whatever the final solution.

To me, it looks awfully like something massive slammed in at an angle, buried itself deep down and had enough power to break up shale bedrock, blow it up into the air and have it settle back down in that configuration. The 'egg' is indicative of the size of the thing.

H. G. Wells would've loved this. It's like a scene out of War of the Worlds.

reply to post by Char-Lee


these large hole to me look like old diatreme volcanic tubes.

reply to post by zayonara


see now thats easy the swirls of the uprising volcanic magma hits the surface with it being in a very cold environment it rapidly cooled leaving what you see today

theclarificator55555

NewtonDKC
reply to post by haven123

 

Anyone have coordinates for Google Earth? If its on there (which would also give at least some idea of how long it's been there from the date the GE scan was done).

As for the Band of Holes in Peru, that has always really freaked me out! Anyone have any good informative or theory links for those?

You can search by Patomskiy Krater and you will find it.
The crater magically disappear on 2004, there is no a glimpse of it.
The myth of Siberian scientists saying it was discovered on 1949 it just part of the disinformation and pure lies.
They yet have a supposed old picture about this mound that is fake, just being photo-enhanced to appear as it were old, here: siberiantimes.com...

So much cover in terms of this mound.
Wikipedia history only register this mound fake-dated history in 2012.

Looks for me like the debris from the twin towers just left there.
The debris from 9/11 was recently poured, so in that case the surrounding trees age theory is pointless.

For the people asking how you transport 130,000 tons of debris from USA to Russia this is simple:
First Experimental Teleportation of Material.

Wouldn't be safe to teleport useless debris instead of a human being in their first experiment ever of this kind?

OmegaSynthesis
I've heard rumours that Ark of the Covenant is buried under the surface.

It was experimentally proved that some cylindrical object lies under the Patomsky crater and the length of this object is about ten meters.

edit on -060011America/Chicago4pmth13113004 by OmegaSynthesis because: (no reason given)

Oh yay a pile of rocks..

reply to post by Rosinitiate


can you translate this?
to me above the top looks like a lava dome and below a small vertical magma chamber.

Russian video on it, with English subtitles; hopefully this hasn't yet been posted; at 5:20, there's a translation of that diagram in Russian someone up above requested, the underground structure is 'a 600 m unidentified object in the form of an ellipsoid (that's a saucer shape!!) with anomalously high electrical conductivity):

Many times logical, natural explanations can be found, if we have the time in our life times. Sometimes to answer some questions we really need multiple life times to resolve riddles. But of course we only have one. One way around this is to read the writings of others in the past who have spent time on this or that subject. Sometimes this works, but its just not the same thing as being inside that persons head.

Since I doubt seriously anyone in the past has written about this mound, or how it came to be, we are left with the group think of places like ATS. ATS and other boards are in essence "Force Multipliers" when it comes to brain power.

Now in saying all that, what do we see? I see a unusual pile of what appears to be broken, bedrock. Maybe in time the Russians well drill a bore hole to examine the area below this formation, hopefully.

Someone earlier stated it looked like a TBM (Tunnel Boring Machine) may have created this pile. At this point you must ask yourself, is there any possibility that this formation is the result of some unknown natural process that could leave stones in this manner. At this point without any more information people must decide for themselves.

I personally do not feel "Mother Nature" could have been responsible. But then again in my very unique mind, I do not see Mother Nature as many others do. At any rate, I do not see this as a natural formation.

What I see is the result of a mining process that has not been identified to date. The amount of material present represents a shaft of about 20 Ft in diameter and 1 to 2 thousand feet deep. These are guesses by the way.

The pattern of the rocks reminds me of a fountain where the water is forced up and comes down in a circle pattern around the perimeter . As it was shut down what was left in the column fell straight back down and formed the dome shaped pile of rocks.

In as far as the equipment that was used in this operation, one could only imagine. But, I am left with the feeling that what ever did this, did this from the "Bottom Up".

reply to post by signalfire


If it is a saucer? Why can't they dig it out!?!? I am so lost?!? Just move the darn rocks!!

I took some time to study the area on Panoramio Google Maps. Try it, it's very interesting. I found the area, and looked for hundreds of miles in all directions. There are hundreds of photos, and decent satellite imagery. I do see a pretty violent landscape. It looks like an extremely rugged area, with extremes of mountains, cliffs, rivers, and moraines. Earth's crust is definitely being pushed and pulled in that region. I was also surprised to see that it is a pretty well settled, and well traveled land. It's not as barren and unpopulated as I would have expected. I found other geographic anomalies in the landscape such as old volcanic cones, cliffs due to subduction zones, and other signs of a pretty active geology. Interestingly, I found a photo gallery that contains some photos from the vicinity. It contains photos of an apparent portable drilling station, and also a photo of a volcanic ash cone. I don't read Russian, but according to Panoramio, some of those photos were taken just to the South East of this rock pile.

Gallery containing photos from the region, some drilling equipment, and a volcanic feature.



I also learned about Gulag Gold.



Then I found this gold production map of Russia:


That puts us right in the heaviest region of gold production called Krasnoyarsk on the map. Maybe it is a mine shaft.


Oh yeah, forgot to add that Russia is no stranger to mining.

reply to post by zayonara


Gold? Now it makes sense, another failed attempt by Todd Hoffman...

maybe but its nearly vertical are there any other kind of things near it? a picture i saw showed it with a small opening below i think it might be volcanic and no one paid and attention to it until now.

reply to post by SheopleNation

Well actually I typed it, and we don't know if I am right or wrong at the present time now do we?

but you do know...your post no1.

It's a mini cinder cone. It's a result of past volcanic activity. I climbed one myself many years ago

Not much room for right and wrong or assumptions. You might take a an English language tutor than. When one says ..."it is"...that's no assumption. That's your arrogance saying "it is what I say it is". Because we all like to think that we know stuff.

Maybe if you double or triple dog dare me I might? Actually, no.

So that's a no on the cinder cone with protrusion pics?

Impossible. I don't know the Man, and I certainly don't live in Russia.

and here is you claiming that he didn't name it a cinder cone...to get his name in the paper.

Nah, it's more like calling it what it is doesn't get your name mentioned in an article

I was? So you're a mind reader?

You said..."it is a cinder cone". You never said "i think it's a cinder cone". There's a difference. I don't need to be a mind reader. You typed it.

No, are you? Are you angry with me or something? You shouldn't get all worked up over something that is really no big deal, another Man's opinion. Have a great day Mario, while on the fly buddy.

I'm not worked up. I'm just showing you how to debate. Mind your words and mind what you write, if you care what people read from your words. Oh yeah, I'm also not a fan of out of the box debunkers, that usually don't even click on the link before they already have ready made answer.

Anyway...you have a nice day too...don't worry about me. I'm as calm as can be...I just like to debate issues. Especially with people that claim "it is"...yet they don't know.

Did not read the whole thread but the idea of a similar structure being seen on the moon occurred to me upon looking at the photos presented in the OP.

Sometimes my husband and I take our telescope out, a pretty decent one) and I have seen a similar structure on the moon. We have always discussed why no one ever pointed seeing this on the moon and what could it be. It is almost similar as far as geometry is concerned I am not aware of the size in order to be able to compare it.

If anyone thinks they saw something similar on the moon maybe they could confirm so I do not feel lke i am the crazy one seeing things.

Thanks for the post very interesting.

P.S. I know some will say I am talking about the impact craters on the moon, it is not what i mean i have seen this round ball like structure in the middle of this raters on the moon that is what i am talking about.