The Nazi's actually won WW2.....(you're gonna be SHOCKED!!)

Operation Autumn Mist

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Lets all do a Hiel Hilter in unison to show our patriotizm ok

spartacus699
Lets all do a Hiel Hilter in unison to show our patriotizm ok

Let's not.

reply to post by wulff


This may be of interest to you. rpmedia.ask.com.../wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg/220px-Students _pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg

Senduko
even now the EU is being led by a German.

That is not true! The EU countries take turns to hold the presidency every 6 month. The EU actually happened because of the french Minister of Foreign Affairs, Robert Schuman, who suggested an united Europe to ensure peace and economic growth. Through control with the industries that had helped to arm the military during the WWII, one could ensure peace between the participating countries. To begin with six countries participated including Germany.

And I'm curious to why the OP only talks about the US v. Nazi Germany? Where are the rest of the world in this equation?!

/HamP

reply to post by spartacus699


Very interesting that you have brought this up. With the Funding the Hitler received from Prescott Bush, there isn't a doubt in my mind that the Nazi party moved underground in the US. Starting with America's financiers. And, I have no doubt that this whole conspiracy isn't a theory but a fact!

Actually, this sounds exactly like what has actually happened to the Democratic party and the liberals in the USA - only it wasn't the Nazi's who did it - it was the Communists. And it worked too.

toolgal462
Actually, this sounds exactly like what has actually happened to the Democratic party and the liberals in the USA - only it wasn't the Nazi's who did it - it was the Communists. And it worked too.

If you're seriously suggesting that the Democrats are pseudo-Communists, then you don't have the faintest idea what a Communist is like.

reply to post by AngryCymraeg


Actually, I suggest you do some reading. I stand by my original statement.

And I can be more specific if you desire - on how they (the Communists) planned to succeed in the infiltration of the Democratic party and install their Communist principals.

calmlikeabomb2
reply to post by spartacus699

 

Very interesting that you have brought this up. With the Funding the Hitler received from Prescott Bush, there isn't a doubt in my mind that the Nazi party moved underground in the US. Starting with America's financiers. And, I have no doubt that this whole conspiracy isn't a theory but a fact!

I would agree somewhat with this statement more-so than the OP's theory. I would look at it more as many U.S. businesses and bankers heavily invested in Nazi Germany, including IBM, Standard Oil, DuPont, Hearst, Mellon, etc. and were looking for return on investment. The US was heavily invested in Germany pre-WWII. I would also say that the USA and other victor nations appropriated spoils from the war, some intellectual and some economic: scientists and their knowledge, highway system (Eisenhower was impressed by autobahn), the foundation's of our own military and counter-intelligence programs and Bayer (largest pharmaceutical of the time).

DISCLAIMER: Everything I have to say in regards to the OP is speculative fiction...

That said... last night I went on a very similar rant to my wife as we were getting ready for bed. I feel bad for her, because it's usually right as we're about to sleep that I decide to launch a full-on mental assault of interesting discoveries and wild theories about any number of topics. Her response is usually "That's very interesting, hun, but why do you have to tell me all this right now?" hehehe...

Anyway... after spending an evening catching up on news, amendments to conspiracy theories, and watching a documentary on ww2, I started thinking about how screwed up the world has become since ww2... Granted, I'll admit I wasn't taking all of history into account, and my thought process was totally aimed at fueling this fantasy connection I'd just thought up. That connection being... (((dramatic pause)))... The Illuminati!

Now, I don't really believe this shadow organization exists, not in the way that many people present it. It just seems too "comic-book" for me to put a whole lot of energy into thinking about it actually being real. I mean, an elite group trying to meddle in the affairs of an entire planet in order to control Earth and enslave human beings... For what? To what end? It just seems too excessive and pointless.

Regardless, after thinking about all the seemingly pointless tragedy, and unnecessary war, violence, injustice, et all... it got me thinking, "You know what? If all this unbelievable crap can actually happen, then maybe we do live in a comic book world. Maybe something like the Illuminati isn't too far-fetched. Just like the fact that hot water freezes faster than cold water, maybe there's a lot more to reality that defies logic and reason, including the possibility that real human beings could be like ridiculous super-villains with absolutely insane and ludacris goals.

So my thought was... What if: The Illuminati was real. They selected Germany to carry out some kind of evil master plan. By all accounts, Germany was their prime choice for whatever reason, and they were certain that, "Now is the time to carry out this plan of domination, because no other force on the planet will be able to stop it. It will take time, but it will be done." The U.S. was recovering from the great depression. Russia and Japan, the only other major threats, were on board for the master plan. Every other country was perceived to be convertible, controllable, or able to conquered...

Meanwhile... we have a still fairly young and ambitious United States. Good ol' boys. The U.S. of A. They just made a big name for themselves after WWI, and were pretty happy to let the world know that they were the good guys, freedom fighters. Despite all odds against them, they continued to push themselves out of the hole and back into action. They weren't ready for a war, but it looked like they may become a problem if left alone. So the "Shadow Organization" decided it would be best to try to force them into the war before they were ready, in hopes of stretching them thin and taking them out of the equation altogether.

However... Nobody, not even the uber-powerful Shadow Org. expected them to react the way they did. They pulled themselves up by their boot-straps, put the entire country to work towards the war effort, and jumped in guns blazing. These crazy westerners actually beat the odds and screwed up the whole plan.

The allies "won"!... but then...

The Shadow Org, with no formidable army and no other choice left, had to step into the light of their enemies and reveal themselves. Rather than actually "winning" the war, the allies merely inherited the role meant to be played by the Nazis... Sorry to break it you "good guys", but this plan is being carried out whether you like it or not. And, since you've pretty much screwed the whole thing up now, you'll be in charge of starting over from scratch. No, you don't have a choice in the matter.

Surprise! We're aliens, and we are so powerful it's ridiculous, so just shut up and fall in line. Consider yourselves lucky. We were just going to wipe everyone off the face of the Earth, but, since you interfered and succeeded in stopping our plan for now, we see that you are obviously more powerful than we thought, and we're going to use you instead.

And the rest is history... Shadow Org learns from its mistakes, and goes forward with "Plan 9" from there on out.

To sum it up:
The allies won the war, but it wasn't a traditional war that could actually be won. It's like Breaking Bad... Okay, congrats Mr. White. You've killed Tuco, but this is much bigger than a quarrel between you and a drug dealer. Now you need to take his place and work for Gustavo...

Kinda makes sense, right? lol

Again, I'm just having fun with this. I don't actually believe this is the case by any stretch of the truth.

toolgal462
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

Actually, I suggest you do some reading. I stand by my original statement.

And I can be more specific if you desire - on how they (the Communists) planned to succeed in the infiltration of the Democratic party and install their Communist principals.

edit on 7-11-2013 by toolgal462 because: for clarity

And I stand by my own statement. Democrats aren't Communists. Not at all, even in a tiny way. Prove your outrageous statement.

reply to post by AngryCymraeg


I didn't say that all Democrats were communists. I said that the Communists infiltrated the political system via the Democrats and they had a very specific plan of action in how they were going to do it, too.

Now, I suspect many people who are Democrats would not realize that their political party has been hijacked, you certainly don't see it.

Later on I will post some specific examples of how the Communists hijacked your political party. I'm busy right now but I will give you some specifics if you wish.

reply to post by toolgal462


If the two Bush family members elected POTUS had been democrats, you might have a point, but the fact is that the people who financed Hitler were staunch republicans.

Hitler was anti-union, the very first people he took out were the union leaders.

Allen Dulles, who worked with Prescott Bush financing Hitler, became one of the earliest Directors of the CIA, and shaped the agency into what it is today.

The whole prohibition scheme pushed by republicans has allowed the CIA to run wild, grabbing huge funds engaging in smuggling, destroying our liberties, turning the U.S. into a police state.

Do some research.

The US infected itself with Nazism by moving them to the heart of the military industrial complex.....Eisenhower tried to warn of the 'Cuckoo' in the nest.

The financiers won WWII.

AngryCymraeg

toolgal462
reply to post by AngryCymraeg

 

Actually, I suggest you do some reading. I stand by my original statement.

And I can be more specific if you desire - on how they (the Communists) planned to succeed in the infiltration of the Democratic party and install their Communist principals.

edit on 7-11-2013 by toolgal462 because: for clarity

And I stand by my own statement. Democrats aren't Communists. Not at all, even in a tiny way. Prove your outrageous statement.

I refer you to this absolutely brilliant thread by Skyfloating:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thank you, Skyfloating for proving what I've been saying here beyond any reasonable doubt.

Whoa... hard to read... grammar nazis like me having a field day over your text...

spartacus699







Then they transplated themselves under operation paperclip into the SEE-i-ahhhyy, other ABC agencies, into Englands Em-i 6, into Russia and other key places where the power was.

They Hilter faked his death and went into hiding. There he secretly still ran the operation, sending criptic messages to all his nazi scientists in each of the allied powers. Those nazi scientists in no time rose to top positions within there respected organizations. And then only recruited people that had the disposition and persona of a true Nazi. Someone that craved, control, death, distruction, devoid of morals and values and was completely loyal to there superiors. (all the while never uttering telling them that they were being indoctrinated to be Nazi's). No they were just agents of whatever ABC agency they worked for.

Now that virus that was transplated into each of the superpowers grew and grew, until we have what we have today.

One problem! Its actually the Jews who have done that ie worked themselves into strategic positions of power in Politics, media, Banking etc etc...it is them who now run the show!

LUXUS
One problem! Its actually the Jews who have done that ie worked themselves into strategic positions of power in Politics, media, Banking etc etc...it is them who now run the show!

Seriously? You're blaming the Jews?

reply to post by spartacus699


I agree with you comletely, in the grand scheme of things, that is the plan, after all Hitler was the bastard son of a Rothschild, his mother being a housekeeper who had a sexual encounter with one of the Rothschild sons. She was sent to England but escaped back to Austria where Adolf was born. And the whole holocaust thing is a hoax. There are newspapers from 1915 till 1938 that repeatedly ask for help from the world to save 6 million starving Jews, it was print in all the world newspapers and there is youtube video showing these papers in their original form WITH the actual articles. Then there is this site below which is the World Almanac that shows the populations by religion and there is actually and INCREASE!!! Too damn funny what idiotic people will believe!!

therebel.org...:before-and-after&catid=136:editorial&Itemid=1229

No Evidence Of Genocide
One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).



There are documents in the library of congress that show that the bombers were told to leave the railways alone around these labor camps, towards the end of the war they ran out of targets and started bombing the railways around the camps, the escape route was cut off and the food delivery was cut off, it was the U.S. Army that killed those people AND NOT Nazi's, if the would not have bombed the railways, the people could have been loaded on the trains and taken to safety and food would still have gotten to the camp by railway. Dumbarse military of the U.S. is totally at fault for the starvation and death of the 378,000 that is the actual number posted by the International Red Cross in 1984.