White Teen Wears Blackface - Trayvon Martin Halloween Costume

Baddguy

what stereotype are they making fun of dressing as Treyvon Martin?

edit on 28-10-2013 by Baddguy because: (no reason given)

None. No stereotype. No racism either. Just bad taste from a couple of young adults (very common).

reply to post by Galvatron


Didnt you bring up Dave Chappelle?? Didnt i say that was racist as well???

you calling me racist MUST make me racist right? i forgot thats how it works....

They're making fun of stereotypes that they find hilarious

None. No stereotype. No racism either. Just bad taste from a couple of young adults (very common).

so now you dont see the stereotype you were talking about before...just like i said, your acting like this crap isnt offensive and then tell me its because im impressionable and racist...star for you sir....star for you

so if im offended, im racist, cool story bro

reply to post by Baddguy


Any replies we make towards one another will be full of contempt and condescending tone. So lets tread carefully. In my opinion you failed to follow the train of the conversation. You are combining two different events and attaching a single statement to both of them, when contextually only refers to one of them.

If you're offended, that's for you to deal with. You're racist because the only examples you ever provided, and I stated this in my previous post, are whites making fun of blacks. And you only found offense to those, but in your own words, had no problem with whites making fun of Japanese (different race) or dutch (same race). Don't call me bro, it immediately generates the ethos of immaturity, in a similar way to when a grown man wears a hat on backwards for the sake of it (not because the brim is in his way, like working on a car for instance).

I said Dave Chappelle was making fun of stereotypes, and that I was okay with it. I said that those fraternities and sororities were making fun of stereotypes and I was okay with it. I'm okay with Russell Peters (Ethnically Indian) making fun of Chinese people in his standup. See the consistency?

What about the two Wayan brothers who had white face in the movie White Chics? They dressed up to look like two white valley girls. They talked like them too. I'm so offended by those racists. But wait.....nothing was ever said about that, was it? --To many people with fake outrage. While I agree that dressing as Travon and Zimmerman was insensitive, people have the right to do it. Look how Tina Faye, a jewish woman, drove Appalachian people into the ground with her little skit: Appalachian Hospital on SNL. Or what about her playing Sara Palin? What if Sara Palin mimmiced Tina Faye and her culture? Oh hell no! I'm shining a light right on it! Do you not see it?

reply to post by overratedpatriotism


I starred you and I will reply to your questions, but privately.

Galvatron
reply to post by Baddguy

 

So this is genius comedy that is appropriate for cable televison (I think it is, I loved that show). But you didn't see the media going bonkers over it.
White Face

And this is so offensive as to be potentially punished... something oughta be done, eh?
Black Face

Where's the consistency, where's the integrity? Either it's okay, or it isn't. You can't make exceptions, because when you do, especially when it comes to race, you are by definition being racist (preference of or preferential treatment of one race over another).

I believe since the young man (Martin) was killed, it's rightfully inappropriate. Use your brain.

reply to post by solongandgoodnight


Inappropriate for sure. Read my other posts, we are in total agreement. I am neither the parent or friend of those two and had no capacity to say "I wouldn't do that, if I were you, many people are passionate about that case and you may find yourself ostracized at parties". I'm arguing that it isn't racist for those who say it is.

That being said, as disagreeable as I find it, it is for me to handle that feeling, not someone else. As a result, I'm not calling for "something to be done" and absolving myself of personal responsibility.

reply to post by Galvatron


I dont mean to sound condescending, i dont even know you Bro-ther. I personally feel offended because, one, im black, and i feel there is a somewhat of a trend going around with kids painting their faces to resemble black people, thus i provided some other instances to show this. As i said before, the whole idea of people painting their faces to resemble black people is in fact born out of racism so i have a critical eye towards it. Its tasteless and while the kids may not be racist, the idea of it is, and you know this so why act like people that are offended by it are just crazy racist? Im not calling for reparations or violence like another poster suggested i think they just need to be talked to...but thats just racist of me to say that.

I believe this as a who cares issue.

Like who really cares big deal, bigger fish to fry in this world than someone dressing up.

This is people being petty, playing race cards, being offended over nothing but someones warped sense of humor.

I do not condone this but really GET OVER it, whats done is done, I am sure they will make a choice more wisely in the future as to when playing dress ups.


The Media just wanted to blow this bigger than it really has to be, there is probably something you guys are being distracted by right now thats taking more of your rights away.

reply to post by Galvatron


Agreed

Look, I'm not going to be the one to say what anyone should or should not dress up as for Halloween, but there is a fine line between funny and douche bag. That's all I'm saying.

usernameconspiracy
Look, I'm not going to be the one to say what anyone should or should not dress up as for Halloween, but there is a fine line between funny and douche bag. That's all I'm saying.

True true. I was going to dress up as a hung saddam myself or a ragged quadaffi or a dead hitler with a hole im my head. I think ill stick with my Taliban terrorist outfit. Complete with suicide vest and qu ran. I call it my Achmed the dead terrorist outfit. SILIENCE! I KEEL YOU!

In case you have no sense of humor I was not being serious above. If anything id dress as my avatar if at all. Or maybe start dressing up in drag again dissapointing young teenage boys when they see my face lol.

Still back on topic. Those kids posting on facebook did not need to use blackface. Cosplay does not need to be accurate and all he would a had to say was Im travon martins corpse. The face painting was over the line though.

reply to post by yuppa


Oh, hey, I'm right there with ya. A younger version of me, who should have known better, dressed up as Ronald Goldman for Halloween 1994. I did not advertise that who i was, but when anyone asked, that's what I said. I can see where I probably should have just been a generic bloody, dead dude, but we all have our crosses to bear!

The only difference is that if I offended anyone back then, there wasn't really an avenue for the entire world to know about it within thirty seconds... In the age of the social media, I would have thought twice.

I would say this is more tasteless and disrespectful than racist. Judging from the picture alone I would say racism has absolutely nothing to do with it. However if the underlying theme is glorifying white on black violence... Then THAT would be racism. I'd ground my son until the following Halloween if he was to do either.

However I have ZERO problem with white folks dressing as African-Americans provided the person being portrayed is a specific personality. If you're dressing as a personality that's fine in my book. But if you're dressing as an African-American for the sake of it - then that's bordering on racism.

reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe


Hilarious

reply to post by PLAYERONE01


That's exactly what it is. How'd you get so smart?

Biigs

watchitburn
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe

 

Neither, it's funny. It's a Halloween costume.

I've seen people dress up as Tupac and B.I.G, What's the difference?

Too Soon™

If I could sum up my feelings in two words??? This would have nailed it I think. I am more stuck on how the parents would feel seeing this than I am anything else I suppose. It made the news so it is likely they did see it.

Too Soon is right IMO.

reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe

but thanks to some sleuthing from The Smoking Gun

No crime was committed and none of the 3 are celebrities or remotely interesting public figures...

Everybody seems to have an opinion on the appropriateness (or lack thereof) of their costumes and senses of humor, but that misses the real point here. Why is this even being reported on by internet sites at all? Everybody knows there are people with twisted senses of humor and lacking in the filter department, so does this now mean that it is going to be standard operating procedure to lay bare anyone's indescretions on the web? In what way does this have anything at all to do with anyone else's business besides the three in the photo and whoever is on their personal Facebook feeds?

What they did can be considered socially unacceptable *to some* people but doesn't violate any laws I know of nor does it fall outside the realme of freedom of expression. Try flipping the tables for a moment. If this was the same website publishing a photo and Facebook post of a girl who had posted to her facebook that she was just leaving the clinic from getting an abortion, wouldn't there be justifiable outrage at her privacy being violated? What if it was a kid that had just decided to come out of the closet? What if it was a man who was using Facebook to report that he had just lost all of his money at the racetrack?

Just because the targets here are guilty of being insensitive doesn't mean that there's even an ounce of justification to them having the entire lives laid bare by some website in the absence of any really public records having been warranted.

Stop and think for a moment... the public becomes desensitized to privacy invasions by first watching low hanging fruit, socially repugnant individuals, lose their freedom of privacy. Few will complain about that, but how big a jump is it to go from "look at this jackass in blackface... his name is XYZ and 6 months ago he used a racial slur on his facebook feed as well." to "Check out this guy attending an Occupy Wallstreet rally... his name is ZYX and 4 months ago he 'LIKED' a link from Democracy Now about how the Boston Marathon Bomber was framed and 3 months before that he posted words of support in an AboveTopSecret.com thread about marching on Washington DC."

Is all of that public information? Possibly (depending on your Facebook settings and the connectability between your screennames and your legal name), but should it be anyone's right to aggregate it and present it to the whole world? Isn't that a pretty accurate description of cyber stalking or cyber bullying in many ways?

reply to post by burdman30ott6


Those are good points I had not thought about. I am not sure if those people did this with the intention that it would go viral (in a good or bad way) or if they did it not even thinking it would spread like it did. I guess most of us assume that most things we post online are public, but I do think some of the younger generation sometimes forgets the ramifications of that.

You did give me some things to think about and that is what this is all about. From experience the news reports on things they know will evoke the most emotion and they spin it to do the same thing. It does create division when things like this are headlined and one has to wonder if that is not the main reason they do it.

The privacy issues hadn't even crossed my mind to be honest. It is worth a long "pondering".