NBC: All Americans Microchipped by 2017

beezzer

With the influx of 30 million illegal aliens, larger numbers on welfare and foodstamps, and imagine a government that says,

"With all the fraud and such large numbers, for security and safety, we will require all people on entitlement programs to be chipped."

And there is your line!

After congress passes the law (so we can read it) then we'll see the other line...

"Except in the case of displaced, undocumented workers and aliens." That would be prejudiced you know.

MrSpad
My dogs are chipped. Its handy if they get lost so they can check them see where they live but, its not like they can be tracked or anything. You have to take them to a place like the vets that can scan them. Of course they have have no power and so they can not broadcast unless they placed near a scanner and that provides the power. So they do have some limited use.

Im confused, so does that mean you are comfortable being treated like someones possession to be tracked and cataloged at your owners leisure?

reply to post by seeker1963


Very scary. I can see this going very bad for alot of people.

gardener
No adverse impacts such temperature, or biochemical changes indicates though vague for now, they will be putting the RFID's in direct contact with the blood, which means in the blood and/or in the recipient - an initial framework of approval where the scope could be expanded with future broadened regulations and easier approvals of even more invasive uses.

Not at all. The test was to detect if the RFID interrogator caused biochemical changes in the blood the tag was attached to, which of course it did not.

Aside from the FDA, we also have the USDA is now considering biometric identification, and the RFID chip, for all individuals (1/3 population and growing) on Food Stamps and other public/government services:

www.swprn.com...

Except this article is from a religious website, and the article it references is ALSO from a religious website, and the root article, if you track it back far enough, doesn't reference RFID whatever, but fingerprint scanning.

Guys, it's already happening. I've been virtually chipped for the past nine years. I need a chip to get into my office, my apartment complex, and my home. How many of you have already allowed it to happen to your cars? TPTB are insidiously introducing this tech into our lives at an increasing pace. Beware!

reply to post by CaticusMaximus

You will find that faith to have been misplaced, as all will who trust in anyway such a corrupt system to protect them from the corrupt system.

SIGH...
I was hoping to avoid a long dissertation. PLEASE READ!

First do not forget the 'Harmonization' of laws between countries that Bush was pushing.

If you think Doctors are not 'On-board' just check out the UK:
Children placed on controversial 'death pathway' - Sick children are being placed on a controversial end-of-life “pathway” previously only thought to have been used for elderly and terminally-ill adult patients.

Top doctor's chilling claim: The NHS kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year, Professor says doctors use 'death pathway' to euthenasia of the elderly, Around 29 per cent of patients that die in hospital are on controversial 'care pathway'

Hospitals 'paid millions to put patients on death pathway' - Hospitals are being paid millions of pounds to reach targets for the number of patients put on a controversial pathway for the withdrawal of life-saving treatment, according to data based on Freedom of Information requests.

The medical profession's lethal arrogance over the Liverpool Care Pathway

Got to get rid of those 'Useless Eaters' somehow.
....

UK DNA from millions of newborn babies is secretly stored on NHS database - DNA taken from millions of newborn babies is quietly being stored by hospitals without proper parental consent.

ACLU: Newborn DNA Banking - The DNA of virtually every newborn in the United States is collected and tested soon after birth.

It used to be that after the screening was completed the blood spots were destroyed. Not anymore. Today it is increasingly common for states to hold onto these samples for years, even permanently. Some states also use the samples for unrelated purposes, such as in scientific research, and give access to the samples to others....

That was just the warm-up
Insurers Study Implanting RFID Chips in Patients

2006-07-19
The chips will be tested in patients with chronic conditions who are more likely to need care in hospital emergency rooms. In the two-year trial, the insurance company will pay about $200 for the chips to be implanted, plus $80 a month for a subscription fee, according to reports in the RFID Journal. Horizon will then assess whether the devices lower health care costs by reducing duplicate lab tests, drug interactions or misdiagnoses. Horizon will invite patients with conditions like diabetes and heart disease to participate and hopes to enroll about 300 volunteers.

Though non-implanted devices, like bracelets or dog tags, could also provide the identifying numbers, chip proponents said that the implanted tags are less likely to be removed or damaged and that scanning for implants will take less time than looking for other means of identification. Earlier this year, four hospitals in Puerto Rico announced plans to implant chips in patients with Alzheimers Disease and other memory problems. VeriChip has given several New Jersey hospitals—Beth Israel, Clara Maass, Columbus, Hackensack, Kimball, Newark, Ocean and PBI Regional—equipment to read the chips and access the companys database. Across the country, about 100 hospitals have the appropriate scanning equipment, according to VeriChip. The chip, about the size of a grain of rice, was approved by the FDA as a medical device in 2004.....

RFID Chip Now Being Issued In Hanna, Wyoming As Part Of New “Obamacare” Plan

The “Obamacare” RFID chips are currently being given a test run on the proud and patriotic citizens of Hanna, Wyoming.

Over the last two weeks a special piece of legislation has been passed making it mandatory for anyone who receives welfare, or any other form of government assistance to be implanted with these new identification chips. Even select government employees and officials have been ordered to receive the new sub-dermal device, which is typically implanted in the fatty tissue of the individual’s buttock. Police officers, military, even garbage men will all be required to have the RFID chip by the end of next month or face termination from their jobs.

reply to post by crimvelvet


You DO know that last one you linked is a satire site, right? And that the next to the last one is about 8 years old and was never implemented?

There was a movie I loved as a kid, it starred Michael York.

The remnants of the human population have been forced to live underground for centuries and every citizen is tagged with a glowing computer chip. And in order to keep the growing population under control, the red light starts flashing on your 30th birthday to indicate that your time has come to die.

It was called Logan's Run, and even as far back as the 70's when the film was made, they still had an accurate glimpse of future beginnings.

reply to post by gardener


Ultimately, it will be tied to Carbon Trading. Carbon has 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons. It is the mark of mankind and humans are the beast in question. Thread on the Subject

Revelation 13

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e-or of mankind] That number is 666.

benrl

MichaelPMaccabee
Yeah, sure.

We can't even get a National ID card, and ya'll think we are going to get chipped?

So why the never ending push for it, you can't use one government overstep of bounds failure to dismiss that the attempts are all there.

Why not, especially when the former is far less intrusive than the latter. If we can't get a National ID card through the Congress, what makes you or anyone think that an advanced form of the same concept is going to be implemented?

as you can see from the responses TPTB are going to have a hard time chipping our generation...we are just too stubborn for it but I think they will start with the kids and welfare recipients as has been stated...oh and don't forget the incarcerated they wont have a choice.. ..how about if and when we get surgery and put under,no doubt the doctors will be in cahoots and just slip one in while you are out of it..even more frightening is I believe they will be chipping our children from birth without our knowledge ......must be time for home births and home schooling.....no way these power hungry aholes are chipping me or my kids...not without a fight anyway

www.gallup.com...

Indeed, with only around 30% Americans considering themselves nonreligious, about 70% confirming they are religious, and the vast majority of Christian or other Abrahamic faiths, it means the mark of the beast upon man 666 holds a bold stigma and anything emulating such a symbol, understandably taboo.

Religious or not, America and majority Americans have flourished for the past 200 years with only one major depression encompassing both the Spanish Flu & the greate Stock Market depression, that quickly were overcome, all without the use of biometrics nor RFID. The dollar has declined since the creation of the Federal Reserve circa 1913 and is now worth 5% of what it was worth exactly 100 years ago. The current president has promised the world of recoveries including explicitly promising troops coming home from Afghanistan yet the Bush Administration lives on thru him; they're still there and US has declared Uranium wars on additional mideast wars; its intervening in one after another with no hault in site. Thus American dollars are hyperinflated back home as more money is printed to spend on war and all these corrupt projects including biometrics implement that hasnt stopped a significant amount of illegal milking of the system still yet, yet the American public are expected to bend over for whatever their tax dollars are determined to finance, even their branding as cattle- are they men.. or beast?

12160.info...

Perry Stone confirmed this info that the RFID chip medical device will be fully implemented world wide by end of 2017. Also Congressman Ron Paul on Fox News confirmed the RFID micro chip is implantable. Brian Williams of NBC reported it could be implanted world wide by 2017.

BREAKING UPDATE: Congress has delayed the implementation of the RFID microchip until the description from the Secretary of Health and Human Services is fully ready to implement the Chip or Patient Identifier is ready no later than December 31, 2017.Perry Stone confirmed this info that the RFID chip medical device will be fully implemented world wide by end of 2017. Also Congressman Ron Paul on Fox News confirmed the RFID micro chip is implantable. Brian Williams of NBC reported it could be implanted world wide by 2017.

BREAKING UPDATE: Congress has delayed the implementation of the RFID microchip until the description from the Secretary of Health and Human Services is fully ready to implement the Chip or Patient Identifier is ready no later than December 31, 2017.

^Obama states he wants to invest in your brain, read your thoughts, and thus make the economy even stronger.

MichaelPMaccabee

benrl

MichaelPMaccabee
Yeah, sure.

We can't even get a National ID card, and ya'll think we are going to get chipped?

So why the never ending push for it, you can't use one government overstep of bounds failure to dismiss that the attempts are all there.

Why not, especially when the former is far less intrusive than the latter. If we can't get a National ID card through the Congress, what makes you or anyone think that an advanced form of the same concept is going to be implemented?

if you have a valid driver license, you have a national id.
what do you think the real id was about.

REAL ID Act

^ Yep, the new 'secure' Driver's license which require your "real" name, original birth cert, etc and puts your pic into a national database, is the national ID.

I've been told my "Real ID" (issued just weeks ago in Los Angeles County) is fake by certain cops doing a random stop, because their computer 'says' my face doesnt match the database pic. Yet, its the same exact hair style and just weeks later from the pic date. They are full of it, they cant even get biometrics right. They can also detain you from boarding a plane (out of America when it comes to that) if their computer says you're not 'you' even if you took the pic yesterday and obviously it's you in the pic of your 'real' ID.

hounddoghowlie
if you have a valid driver license, you have a national id.
what do you think the real id was about.

REAL ID Act

edit on 21-10-2013 by hounddoghowlie because: (no reason given)

No, a State Level ID is not a National ID. It is not issued by the Federal Government, and is not subject to federal jurisdiction outside of Article IV Section I of the US Constitution (Full Faith and Credit).

The closest we have is the United States Passport, which is not required unless you are leaving the country.

There isn't a National ID card.

It sound like its just for those who receive welfare benefits "for now". I can see them findings all sorts of justifications for chips for all and as a common practice at birth. There are too many to not see someone push on this hard. I guess we will see people die.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


read the freaking law, it is a federal mandate. it is done through the states.

Federally mandated standards for state driver's licenses or ID cards Driver's license implications The REAL ID Act's implications for driver's licenses and ID cards is detailed in Title II of the Act. Title II of REAL ID – “Improved Security for Driver’s License and Personal Identification Cards” – repeals the driver's licenses provisions of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act,[14] also known as the "9/11 Commission Implementation Act of 2004", that was enacted in December 2004. Section 7212 of that law established a cooperative state-federal process, via a negotiated rule-making procedure, to create federal standards for driver’s licenses. Instead, the Real ID Act directly imposes specific federal driver’s license standards.Text

DHS regulations regarding implementation of the Driver's License provisions of the Act

On January 11, 2008 DHS released the final rule[12] regarding the implementation of the driver's licenses provisions of the Real ID Act. Under the DHS final rule, those states that chose to comply with Driver's License provisions of the Real ID Act are allowed to apply for up to two extensions of the May 11, 2008 deadline for implementing these provisions: an extension until no later than December 31, 2009 and an additional extension until no later than May 11, 2011. The DHS final rule mandates that, as of March 11, 2011, driver's licenses issued by the states that are not deemed to be in full compliance with the Real ID Act, will not be accepted for federal purposes. The Secretary of Homeland Security is given discretion to determine the scope of such official purposes in the future.[23] For the states that do not apply to DHS, by March 31, 2008, for an extension of the May 11, 2008 implementation deadline, that deadline will apply: after May 11, 2008 driver's licenses issued by such states will not be accepted for federal purposes. After the final implementation deadline, some non-Real-ID-compliant licenses will continue to be accepted for federal purposes, provided DHS judges that the state which issued such a license is in full compliance with the Real ID Act by the final implementation deadline. However, in order for their licenses to be accepted for federal purposes, all people born after December 1, 1964 will be required to have Real-ID-compliant cards by December 1, 2014. Additionally, in order to be accepted for federal purposes, people born before December 1, 1964 will be required to have Real-ID-compliant cards by December 1, 2017.

The REAL ID Act Driver's License Summary[15] details the following provisions of the Act's driver's license title:
Authority
Data Retention and Storage
DL/ID Document Standards
Grants to States
Immigration Requirements
Linking of Databases
Minimum DL/ID Issuance Standards
Minimum Standards for Federal Use
Repeal of 9/11 Commission Implementation Act DL/ID Provisions
Security and Fraud Prevention Standards Verification of Documents

After 2011, "a Federal agency may not accept, for any official purpose, a driver's license or identification card issued by a state to any person unless the state is meeting the requirements" specified in the REAL ID Act. The DHS will continue to consider additional ways in which a REAL ID license can or should be used for official federal purposes without seeking the approval of Congress before doing so. States remain free to also issue non-complying licenses and IDs, so long as these have a unique design and a clear statement that they cannot be accepted for any Federal identification purpose. The federal Transportation Security Administration is responsible for security check-in at airports, so bearers of non-compliant documents would no longer be able to travel on common carrier aircraft without additional screening unless they had an alternative government-issued photo ID.[16] People born on or after December 1, 1964, will have to obtain a REAL ID by December 1, 2014. Those born before December 1, 1964, will have until December 1, 2017 to obtain their REAL ID.[17]

but if you want to believe it's not i can't make you.

WOW! In absence of a US "National ID Card" as seen in some countries, US adopted the REAL ID Act instead, setting FEDERAL guidelines across 50 states, though not issued by one Federal entities(why would these waste $$$ on civilian IDs when that $$$ could go toward operations Libya, Syria, Iran, etc?):

en.wikipedia.org...

Department of Homeland Security claims it[Real ID] is not a "national ID" system. Web sites such as no2realid.org, unrealid.com, and realnightmare.org argue that this is a trivial distinction, and that the new cards are in fact national ID cards, thanks to the uniform national standards created by the AAMVA and (especially) the linked databases, and by the fact that such identification is mandatory if people wish to travel out of the US.

en.wikipedia.org...

The national license/ID standards cover:
How the states must share their databases both domestically and internationally through AAMVA.
What data must be included on the card and what technology it is encoded with;
What documentation must be presented and electronically stored before a card can be issued.

we are already chipped,.
Who dosnt have a cell phone?
who cant leave it at home?

hounddoghowlie
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

read the freaking law, it is a federal mandate. it is done through the states.

This is you telling me to read the law and then posting a portions of a wikipedia article, conveniently leaving out the large swathes of the article highlighting the continued efforts by the state level governments of over 3/4 of the states passing state legislation that simply blocks the RealID Act.

Again, we have no National ID card, and I submit the very nature of the fight against it's implementation as grounds to doubt everyone is getting chipped by 2017.