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Strollin
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
Ok you just keep reaching out to bash Christianity , I said banking, not banks or money, JFK tryed to warn us about secret societies in his last speech, those preachers you mention are not my masters nor am I their paid shill nor do I owe them anything, and if they are keeping their meetings secret and keeping a silencer on the media as to keep the details secrecy ,, you should know how I feel about. So let's hear you try and demonize a whole culture some more.edit on 20-10-2013 by Strollin because: Mispelling
JBA2848
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
www.foxnews.com...
"Perhaps freedom is not universal," Bush offered. "Maybe it's only Western people that can self-govern. Maybe it's only, you know, white-guy Methodists who are capable of self-government."
Guess who said that? Bush
Strollin
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
Christian meetings , with other Christians is what I meant, about the community, or their religion. And like I said secrecy is bad for the country. And I've heard JFK s speech, you can interpret it how you want , but he was killed for wanting to keep secrets? Not what I woulda done. Impeachment woulda done. And how's is it being honest about policy or law when your doing it in secret. Sorry if got hot, but when it comes to freemasonry , the day I can walk in and be privy to all that goes on without payment or membership the way I can in any Christian church ( that's not being unchristian by the way) I tend to mistrust leaders who are masons but not masons themselves .
Strollin
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
Yeah well let's get off of who said she said about things we don't know about. But just so you know, if the shoe fits ... Just cause you like the masons? Or you just go after Christians? Or are you disliking of anyone that points out secret keeping by our leaders is wrong ? Cause that's what I've been talking about mostly. Or are you a mason in office or do you fear the fact that I know the meetings masons have are not the YMCA kind but are held in private lodges, some that even other masons are not allowed to partake in . The Christians hate when their leaders get involved in conspiracy and often drop from the role if they can't get rid of em, and then on top of every thing, they usually publicly admonish that person( as if they needed help to do this , there's plenty of people that'll chime in) and no catholic is not Christianity , neither is Mormonism ,as well as many others , but I'm not gonna ask them to stop preaching Jesus , cause they need him just like everyone else. IMHO a Christian simply is called a Christian with no signifiers attached .edit on 20-10-2013 by Strollin because: Left out word
According to her husband, they are both practicing Christians of firm faith. In the 4 weeks preceding Wednesday’s incident, Mrs. Reidy would awaken early, sometimes in the middle of the night, and spend time reading the Holy Bible. She would spend a few hours reading and often return to bed, something she had not done before.
Despite this change of behavior, her activities at home were not affected, nor were her duties at work. The former was verified by her husband, while the latter was verified by her co-workers through publicized interviews subsequent to Wednesday’s incident. But something changed, according to her husband, and herein lies the story behind the headlines and mischaracterizations by the media.
Mr. Reidy emphasized that his wife took her job extremely seriously and would never do anything to willingly jeopardize her position or disrespect the protocol of the House chambers. During the four weeks of immersing herself in the Bible, admittedly a behavioral change according to her husband, however, he could tell that she was struggling with some type of inner conflict.
It was as if she was being led to do something, knowing that if she did, her actions would have ramifications to her position as a House stenographer. It was as if she was a reluctant participant, knowing that if she followed the instructions given to her through the Word of God, there would be blowback. This, of course, became clearer to him after the incident and the discussion that ensued between the two.
Strollin
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
I know masons, and I ask them esoteric questions, and about their meetings, they will always admit to the lodge they belong to,, but the upper lodges are not for lower members, and all of them without question says to me if you want to find out join and take the oath and then I can find out, yes they have like an open house at times but they usually don't conduct any lodge business that is normally held in private at those. And if read pikes stuff and I've researched them along with every major and minor religion at one time that has free info.
Now get it one more time ,I'm not bashing Freemasons , I have some acquaintances that are masons and they are nice guys, but I am opposed to secret societies running things . It's just safer that way IMHO .
Thanks
Strollin
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
I know masons, and I ask them esoteric questions, and about their meetings, they will always admit to the lodge they belong to,, but the upper lodges are not for lower members, and all of them without question says to me if you want to find out join and take the oath and then I can find out, yes they have like an open house at times but they usually don't conduct any lodge business that is normally held in private at those. And if read pikes stuff and I've researched them along with every major and minor religion at one time that has free info.
Now get it one more time ,I'm not bashing Freemasons , I have some acquaintances that are masons and they are nice guys, but I am opposed to secret societies running things . It's just safer that way IMHO .
Thanks
EarthCitizen07
reply to post by network dude
So you are going to argue semantics forever and ever, aren't you? There are many levels of freemasonry, and I am talking about the accredited ones, like the blue lodge which is for apprentice/fellow craft/master mason. Then there is the york rite and scottish rite which are adjuncts of freemasonry.
Entered Apprentice= 1st degree, Fellow Craft= 2nd degree, Master Mason= 3rd degree.
To join the york rite or scottish rite you must be a master mason first.
Then there is the ancient rite of memphis and misraim which is accredited by the grand college of rites. It is very expensive and is a worldwide lodge. It starts from 34 degree and goes to 99 degree.
Are you going to deny me all this, just to protect the reputation of masonry?
Some lodges you dont even have to believe in a supreme architect and there are also lodges that are uncredited for women and black people. I dont remember the names off hand.
There is corruption in freemasonry just like there is corruption in religion and politics. Freemasonry is not exempt from corruption.
Albert Pike speaks of 31st, 32nd, 33rd masons beliving in lucifer, there is no denying this.
Ancient and Primitive Rite of Memphis Misraïm
This order originated in 1881 by combining two 'Egyptian' Rites, those of Mepmphis and of Misraim. Giuseppi Garibaldi became the first Grandmaster of this united rite. Before that he was already the Grandmaster of the Italian order of freemasons.
The origins of the Misraim-rite were in the late 1700s, the Memphis rite was founded in 1815 by freemasons who had joined the Napoleontic battle campaigns in Egypt and learned there of ancient Egyptian initiation rites.
Nowadays this rite has a couple of thousand members, mostly in Europe. There are lodges in France, Belgium (140 members), Switzerland, United Kingdom, Italy, Canada, United States, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Haiti, Australia and several African countries, including Madagascar.
The order has 99 degrees and is therefore the largest masonic order in number of degrees. Not all degrees are worked in.
The first 33 degrees are similar to those of the Scottish Rite.
The degrees of the Memphis-Misraim Rite ( as of 1980 )
Lodge
1º. Apprentice
2º. Companion
3º. Master
College
4º. Secret Master
5º. Perfect Master
6º. Intimate Secretary
7º. Provost and Judge
8º. Intendant of the Buildings
9º. Master Elect of Nine
10º. Illustrious Elect of Fifteen
11º. Sublime Prince Elect
12º. Grand Master Architect
13º. Royal Arch
14º. Grand Elect Perfect and Sublime Master
Chapter
15º. Knight of the East or the Sword
16º. Prince of Jerusalem
17º. Knight of the East and the West
18º. Knight of the Rose Cross
Senate
19º. Grand Pontiff
20º. Knight of the Temple
21º. Patriarch Noachite
22º. Knight of the Royal Axe
23º. Chief of the Tabernacle
24º. Prince of the Tabernacle
25º. Knight of the Brazen Serpent
26º. Prince of Mercy
27º. Commander of the Temple
28º. Knight of the Sun, or Prince Adept
29º. Knight of St. Andrew
Areopage and Tribunal
30º. Grand Elected Knight of Kadosh
31º. Grand Inspector Inquisitor Commander
32º. Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret
33º. Sovereign Grand Inspector General
Consistory
34º. Knight of Scandinavia
35º. Knight of the Temple
36º. Sublime Negociant
37º. Knight of Shota (Sage of Truth)
38º. Sublime Elect of Truth (The Red Eagle)
39º. Grand Elect of the Aeons
40º. Sage Savaiste (Perfect Sage)
41º. Knight of the Arch of Seven Colours
42º. Prince of Light
43º. Sublime Hermetic Sage (Hermetic Philosopher)
44º. Prince of the Zodiac
45º. Sublime Sage of the Mysteries
46º. Sublime Pastor of the Huts
47º. Knight of the Seven Stars
48º. Sublime Guardian of the Sacred Mount
49º. Sublime Sage of the Pyramids
50º. Sublime Philosopher of Samothrace
51º. Sublime Titan of the Caucasus
52º. Sage of the Labyrinth
53º. Knight or Sage of the Phoenix
54º. Sublime Scalde
55º. Sublime Orphic Doctor
56º. Pontiff, of Sage of Cadmia
57º. Sublime Magus
58º. Sage, or Prince Brahmine
59º. Sublime Sage, or Grand Pontiff of Ogygia
60º. Sublime Guardian of the Three Fires
61º. Sublime Unknown Philosopher
62º. Sublime Sage of Eulisis
63º. Sublime Kawi
64º. Sage of Mythras
65º. Guardian of Sanctuary - Grand Installator
66º. Grand Architect of the Mysterious City - Grand Consecrator
67º. Guardian of the Incommunicable Name - Grand Eulogist
68º. Patriarch of Truth
69º. Knight or Sage of the Golden Branch of Eleusis
70º. Prince of Light, or Patriarch of the Planispheres
71º. Patriarch of the Sacred Vedas
72º. Sublime Master of Wisdom
73º. Patriarch, or Doctor of the Sacred Fire
74º. Sublime Master of the Stoka
75º. Knight Commandel of the Lybic Chain
Sublime Council
76º. Interpreter of Hieroglyphics, of Patriarch of Isis
77º. Sublime Knight or Sage Theosopher
78º. Grand Pontiff of the Thebiad
79º. Knight, or Sage of the Redoubtable Sada
80º. Sublime Elect of the Sanctuary of Mazias
81º. Intendent Regulator, or Patriarch of Memphis
82º. Grand Elect of the Temple of Midgard
83º. Sublime Elect of the Valley of Oddy
84º. Patriarch or Doctor of the Izeds
85º. Sublime Sage, or Knight of Kneph
86º. Sublime Philosopher of the Valley of Kab
87º. Sublime Prince of Masonry
88º. Grand Elect of the Sacred Curtain
89º. Patriarch of the Mystic City
90º. Sublime Master of the Great Work
Grand Tribunal
91º. Grand Defender
92º. Grand Catechist
93º. Regulator General
94º. Prince of Memphis, or Grand Administrator
95º.Grand Conservator
96º. Grand and Puissant Sovereign of the Order
97º. Deputy International Grand Master
98º. International Grand Master
99º. Grand Hierophant