Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

reply to post by The GUT


I would assume one could induce a sense of disorientation, nausea, etc. by fooling with magnetite.

Some people have an uncanny ability to dead reckon North on a compass as well. I can do it fairly accurately (within five degrees, I'd say) while others have no clue where North is.

Think whales beaching themselves when you start fooling with that stuff...

here is some other effects of Elf waves and what it can do to the human body, SUMMARY OF ELF WAVE MIND CONTROL CAPABILITIES

Naval Intelligence and other groups have conducted research into ELF waves upon the human body and mind. Some of the many things that can be done to the human body and mind with ELF waves include:

a. put a person to sleep
b. make a person tired or depressed c. create a feeling of fear in a person d. create a zombie state
e. create a violent state
f. create a state of being sexually aggressive g. change cellular chemistry
h. change hormone levels
i. inhibit or enhance M(RNA) synthe-sis/processes
j. control the DNA transaction process
k. control biological spin and proton coupling constants in DNA, RNA & RNA transferases

Wanted to poke my head in here and drop a couple of things I've run across.

Many apologies if any of this is repetitive:

The precision problem and complex encoding of information by the brain was overcome to some degree in the 2003 Sony patent describing technology that is entirely non-invasive, unlike implants. The Sony patent describes technology for communication of complex information to the brain via an external source. Sensory data that could be finely tuned, focused and transmitted onto small groups of brain cells with ultrasound, creating sensory experiences such as sight, sound, taste, smell, touch. While the patent is not developed yet, the science is feasible according to scientists interviewed in the article.

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And after many decades, the same rudimentary mind control technology that targets the human nervous system is repeatedly 'in development'. The unclassified weapons stun, disorient or immobilize. With a closer examination, a pattern of government control of the development and funding of electromagnetic mind control research emerged. In spite of the decades of research and interest, only the most basic 'mind control' technologies are ever discussed in the unclassified literature. After many decades, electromagnetic weapons are known to be extremely classified but how sophisticated or well developed is impossible to determine. What is known is that after decades of research, the science of electromagnetic mind control continues to remain well funded and scientifically feasible.

emphasis mine

How real and/or imminent is the possibility of sophisticated and surreptitious remote mind control? A summary.

And:

The present invention includes a system and methods that permit storage of and/or receiving Behavioral Modification Content (also “BMC”) for the purpose of delivering the BMC to a user. Certain BMC is configured to encourage the user to practice healthier habits, prepare journal entries such as reflections, and decrease stress. Such BMC often result in the user experiencing physical health benefits such as healthier blood pressure such as increasing or decreasing blood pressure, healthier heart rate such as increasing or decreasing heart rate, decreased emission of stress hormones, reduction of lactic acid build-up in muscle tissue, balancing levels of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the blood, weight loss or weight gain, normalized brain function, and improved immune system function such as strengthening T-lymphocyte cells.

SYSTEM AND METHODS FOR MONITORING AND ADJUSTING HUMAN BEHAVIORAL PATTERNS AND CONDITIONS
United States Patent Application 20130017519

Sounds nice and rosy, doesn't it?

BMC delivered to make you want to be a healthier happier person...

Who could object to that?

Haha…I can't keep up with y'all! So much great stuff from Eidolon, jadedANDCynical, datasdream, SquirrellNutz, Jasmine, JayinAR, StarsinDust and the mighty Kantzveldt. Heck, everybody!

Seriously, y'all RAWK and are blowing my mind. Gotta step out for a bit, but I'll be back and digging into all these very yummy offerings and commenting.

I feel my mind expanding so; Thank You sincerely!

karl 12

The GUT

Electromagnetic (EM) effects have long been associated with both UFOs and various "paranormal" phenomena for that matter. In the case of UFOs, most of us are familiar with the rather ubiquitous accounts of vehicle engines being shut down and other electrical systems being affected..

Aha Senor Gut, wonderful thread as always mate and some truly interesting reading -haven't got much typing time at the mo but you're not wrong about those vehicle interference cases, I've read so many similar accounts from different countries over the years that it's not even funny anymore -below is a bit more of an unusual example where the lights on a 'UFO' were seen to be flashing in synchronization with electrical systems on the ground but don't really understand the science there (could have something to do with EM effects though).

Another case where there seems a UFO has an effect on electrical systems:

Two deputy sheriffs, called to a home on the Pacific Beach yesterday, said they found a burglar alarm ringing in tune with the lights on an unidentified flying object hovering over the ocean.

Deputies Gary Talesfore and Blair Foster reported they witnessed the UFO lights while the burglar alarm on a food freezer rang in synchronization with the lights.

“The UFO disappeared shortly, and the burglar alarm stopped ringing, the deputies said.

* Seattle, Washington. Seattle Post-Intelligencer. 7 December 1973.

Some UFO Notes By Loren E. Gross

There's also this freaky one where as the witness approached a UFO in his vehicle the tyres deflated -have absolutely no idea what's going on there either.


“UFOs ‘Invade’ Colorado Area” - Deseret News, Salt Lake City, Utah

Erno86

Gut- So what do you think of my hypothesis about electromagnetically controlled plasma shields surrounding alien starships?

Erno, sorry to butt into this one mate but thought it was relevant as StringTheory over on another forum posted this image from the research of NASA's Dr. Harold White as to what a craft that could be capable of creating a 'warp bubble' may look like. Had never heard of Dr. White before but as discussed the sketch did bear a striking resemblance to the object described in the video below witnessed by pilot Shanon Davis performing right angle turns near his aircraft over California in November 1980.

See 7:55

Cheers.

Karl- Thanks for the interesting diagram and vid. As always...you're my fav Ufologist.


Cheers,

Erno

Like I said much earlier. Awesome post GUT. I'll have to read it all again and explore the links to fully digest this and even understand a lot of it.

Sorry I haven't had time to catch up on the whole thread so apologies if I'm covering ground that's been discussed or maybe simply irrelevant.

Electromagnetism seems comparable to nuclear energy to me.

Is it a help or a hindrance?

We all know the nuclear fusion of our sun produces the heat and light that gives life to our planet and that the electro-magnetic field of the earth protects us from the dangers of the radiation from the sun. This existence of both has maintained a plethora of lifeforms on this small planet.

However now man has unleashed the power of the atom we face the danger of nuclear annihilation whilst also facing the more positve possibility that we may achieve a cheap clean energy source through nuclear fusion one day that could eventually even take us to the stars.

So what of electro-magnetism? I know nothing much about it to be honest. But it seems that it can have a profound affect on our perception of reality. Is it enhancing our consciousness or severely impairing it? Does it open a window to a universe our normal senses cannot experience or is it just toxic to the human brain causing false experience and memory? I can't answer those questions.

There are certainly dark forces who would want to utilise this power to control humanity if they could. Others who may see a "telepathy through technology" trans-human future when physical speech is no longer necessary and communication is simply a case of "tuning in" with other minds.

Something has preserved a natural (or maybe unnatural) but uneasy balance so far, as we continue to harness the powers of nature, for good or bad.

But will it always be like this?




Oh and why can't I wear a watch without it going crazy on me after a few weeks?

reply to post by The GUT


True and untrue at the same time? Absolutely. That is, after all, the very nature of faith and the locus of belief systems. Our belief in something shapes our reality, and how we perceive our environment. The more people who share the same belief, or reality, the more robust that reality becomes. And of course, all information that enters into our field of perception will be filtered through that belief system. These days, in the Western world, as Bybyots has repeatedly pointed out, secularisation leaves a void. Something has to fill the void. Belief systems are a necessity, we still have questions, such as you suggest; Are we alone? It is a social structural requirement that aids in us functioning as a unit. The problem, as I see it, currently, is that conflict, at all levels, demands that sides are chosen, even if it is only 'them and us', while we are facing a future that will demand our unity. It is possible, that certain interests seek to force compliance and co-operation to that aim. Just as it is likely that some wish to engineer dischord so that some groups achieve mutual annihilation. Or ensure that we are so overwhelmed by information that we shut down, ignoring the bigger picture and the wider suffering. A handy example, Al Gore’s misguided effort to unify with his Inconvenient Truth, he seemingly grossly underestimated his audience’s intelligence, the ensuing confusion and distrust has set us all back decades in the process. Perhaps, Gore was a patsy, and that was the aim. While it is gradually sinking in that no one is going to save us, unfortunately, the majority are still seeking someone to blame, or some external excuse rather than modifiying their own behaviour. And of course, those eager to make money and profit from continued conflict are all too eager to fan those flames, and stir the pot. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist, or even a bright intellect (which my academic record most certainly contradicts...that lone ‘A’ grade in Needlework excepted), to see that a war is being waged on multiple fronts, but largely, in our own minds.

Eidolon23
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When examining the medical lit and speculating on how therapeutic usage might be weaponized, I found the most startling implications were to be found in looking at how morphogenesis is electrodynamic in nature, and how that process can be directed or interrupted.

Okay, there was more, but I gotta jet.

BBS.

There has been a lot of research, at plant level, to use extracellular electric fields to control and amplify morphogenetic process, such as cell differentiation, controlling the direction and locality of growth. At the human level, there is much expectation that, eventually, this process can be refined sufficiently to be utilised in nerve reconstruction and it's potential in healing applications is being explored...

Low-amplitude electric field (EF) is an important component of wound-healing response and can promote vascular tissue repair; however, the mechanisms of action on endothelium remain unclear. We hypothesized that physiological amplitude EF regulates angiogenic response of microvascular endothelial cells via activation of the mitogen-activated protein kinase/extracellular signal-regulated kinase (MAPK/ERK) pathway. A custom set-up allowed non-thermal application of EF of high (7.5 GHz) and low (60 Hz) frequency. Cell responses following up to 24 h of EF exposure, including proliferation and apoptosis, capillary morphogenesis, vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) expression and MAPK pathways activation were quantified. A db/db mouse model of diabetic wound healing was used for in vivo validation. High-frequency EF enhanced capillary morphogenesis, VEGF release, MEK-cRaf complex formation, MEK and ERK phosphorylation, whereas no MAPK/JNK and MAPK/p38 pathways activation was observed. The endothelial response to EF did not require VEGF binding to VEGFR2 receptor. EF-induced MEK phosphorylation was reversed in the presence of MEK and Ca(2+) inhibitors, reduced by endothelial nitric oxide synthase inhibition, and did not depend on PI3K pathway activation. The results provide evidence for a novel intracellular mechanism for EF regulation of endothelial angiogenic response via frequency-sensitive MAPK/ERK pathway activation, with important implications for EF-based therapies for vascular tissue regeneration.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

My concern, above and beyond weaponisation, is the damage that we are causing to our co-inhabitants of this planet, as well as to ourselves, and what effect does our generation and use of electricity have, overall on life within our biosphere. Potentially, I think, that the results of recent studies into biophoton communication, combined with the way in which morphogenetic cell differentiation can be manipulated by electrical fields, could indicate that on a cellular level our communication systems are getting mixed signals. That may be why cancer clusters seemingly occur around electrical pylons and the such like, for example. While I do not dismiss that these technologies can be weaponised, I feel that there is a far greater risk that we will break everything so far down, that there will be nothing left to bind it together, esoterically and exoterically.

As you point out, is it the body or the soul (though I would make that the full trinity by adding in the Spirit) that is being targeted here?

this might be a little off the wall and off topic but here goes we are talking about mind control and other things, this has to do with the strange sounds people are hearing all over the world starting in 2011 as i was thinking about the sounds it reminded me of the old version of The Time Machine if you seen it remember the part when the morlocks to gather the food source for them Humans, used the air raid sound and it put the people into a trance so they walked basically to their deaths. I was thinking maybe the sounds people are hearing is just the start of a conditioning sound to lead them to what i don't know,

KilgoreTrout

There has been a lot of research, at plant level, to use extracellular electric fields to control and amplify morphogenetic process, such as cell differentiation, controlling the direction and locality of growth. At the human level, there is much expectation that, eventually, this process can be refined sufficiently to be utilised in nerve reconstruction and it's potential in healing applications is being explored...

Low-amplitude electric field (EF) is an important component of wound-healing response and can promote vascular tissue repair; however, the mechanisms of action on endothelium remain unclear. We hypothesized that physiological amplitude EF regulates angiogenic response of microvascular endothelial cells via activation of the mitogen-activated protein kinase/extracellular signal-regulated kinase (MAPK/ERK) pathway. A custom set-up allowed non-thermal application of EF of high (7.5 GHz) and low (60 Hz) frequency. Cell responses following up to 24 h of EF exposure, including proliferation and apoptosis, capillary morphogenesis, vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) expression and MAPK pathways activation were quantified. A db/db mouse model of diabetic wound healing was used for in vivo validation. High-frequency EF enhanced capillary morphogenesis, VEGF release, MEK-cRaf complex formation, MEK and ERK phosphorylation, whereas no MAPK/JNK and MAPK/p38 pathways activation was observed. The endothelial response to EF did not require VEGF binding to VEGFR2 receptor. EF-induced MEK phosphorylation was reversed in the presence of MEK and Ca(2+) inhibitors, reduced by endothelial nitric oxide synthase inhibition, and did not depend on PI3K pathway activation. The results provide evidence for a novel intracellular mechanism for EF regulation of endothelial angiogenic response via frequency-sensitive MAPK/ERK pathway activation, with important implications for EF-based therapies for vascular tissue regeneration.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

OMG!! This is almost literally the plot for "Iron Man 3"! It starts out with plants, then the mad scientist figures out how to do it with humans, only something isn't quite right with the 'process', so....oh wait, never mind....spoilers...

Seriously though, talk about 'truth in sci-fi'...

reply to post by lostgirl


Ah yes, Extremis. Though I have to say, my last job was working at the cutting edge of plant genetics, the reality, in many ways, is much more mundane, but in application, no less exciting. One project, almost the opposite of Extremis, was breeding plants specifically for the purpose of extracting dangerous explosive and chemical residues from soil. That was driven by US military funding, and aimed at treating the Dugway Proving Ground. Other projects were looking to adapt plants that could extract trace levels of gold from soil (that was proving very difficult, plants love iron and copper and will suck those up no end, but they have no use for gold and it is very difficult to tell them otherwise).

That is where is gets very interesting, where fact meets fiction, and vice versa. As someone has already pointed out in this thread, I am sorry I forget the name, scientists are not generally known for creative thinking, so as often as not, the real ideas are driven by fiction.

lostgirl
OMG!! This is almost literally the plot for "Iron Man 3"! It starts out with plants, then the mad scientist figures out how to do it with humans, only something isn't quite right with the 'process', so....oh wait, never mind....spoilers...

Seriously though, talk about 'truth in sci-fi'...

Funny, needing a little escapism after working on this thread for days, I just watched "3" late last night and it hit me that the storyline somewhat dovetailed with this thread rather nicely, even before Kilgore's post.

First movie I've watched in quite awhile, so it did give me some minor feelings of synchronicity or some such. So much for escapism ha.

Where is Iron Man when we need him?! Oh...Kilgore addressed that, too...

That we have story-lines that reflect the undercurrents in our society do, I think, reflect on the "co-creation" Kilgore referenced, but I also believe they also reveal an important aspect of the intuitive part of our subconscious that smells the "rat" that's so well-hidden by those who plot and attempt to steer our society towards their own vision.

Have you ever had something bothering you for days and days that you couldn't quite put your finger on? Maybe somebody told you a brilliantly crafted lie that, as a decent person, you had to accept consciously, but the inner detective just wouldn't let it go until it finally spat out that it was Colonel Mustard-Gas in the Library? Colonel Mustard-Gas, get it?!

Social engineering and its dark brother--psyops--have been with us for many decades now, especially in that area where spooks meet academia, and we'd be remiss not to consider how it's "adepts" might be using it.

Are we as predictable as some think? I hope not.

jasmine23
here is some other effects of Elf waves and what it can do to the human body, SUMMARY OF ELF WAVE MIND CONTROL CAPABILITIES

Naval Intelligence and other groups have conducted research into ELF waves upon the human body and mind. Some of the many things that can be done to the human body and mind with ELF waves include:

a. put a person to sleep
b. make a person tired or depressed c. create a feeling of fear in a person d. create a zombie state
e. create a violent state
f. create a state of being sexually aggressive g. change cellular chemistry
h. change hormone levels
i. inhibit or enhance M(RNA) synthe-sis/processes
j. control the DNA transaction process
k. control biological spin and proton coupling constants in DNA, RNA & RNA transferases

Excellent addition, Jasmine, and from my own research, seems to be totally and unequivocally based on empirical data. The DNA aspect is especially interesting and partially fits, I think, with mirageman's observation:

...There are certainly dark forces who would want to utilise this power to control humanity if they could. Others who may see a "telepathy through technology" trans-human future when physical speech is no longer necessary and communication is simply a case of "tuning in" with other minds...

I wonder how many of our "cast of characters" are pro- trans-humanist?

Not to mention, Eidolon's remarks about body AND soul. Surely our DNA is sacrosanct and maybe more related to our "consciousness"--or spirit--than our brains?

Regardless, I again ask: Who in the military-industrial complex would fail to see and get excited about scientific data like that?

Plus, I have a question for y'all. We often hear guesstimates on how far classified technology is beyond publicly-known perception. So I would like to hear how many years ahead y'all think it might be reasonable to assume that classified tech is?

reply to post by jadedANDcynical

Wowzer...That's what I'm talking about, J&C. I'm still digging through the paper, but I wanted to stop for a minute and note that it's certainly not a 'crack-pot' opinion based on wild conjecture:

UC Davis Electrical Engineering Student Report

Thank you, that's exactly the kind of solid information necessary to separate fact from fiction, and highlights that 'just the facts' are certainly both scary enough and worthy of our collective attention as well.

Please, more of your thoughts and research.

reply to post by The GUT


Aquino seemed to imply they have achieved FTL travel.

I think they are perfectly content having us believe they are a mere 40 years ahead. They may be "light years" ahead.

Also, I am developing a keen interest in the RV connections here.
I know the programs were taken off the books officially, but these same characters surely continued their experiments while still running in these same circles... I bet the work went black, or was contracted out.

So in that regard, they are working with forgotten knowledge, instead of snazzy tech.

JayinAR
Aquino seemed to imply they have achieved FTL travel.

I think they are perfectly content having us believe they are a mere 40 years ahead. They may be "light years" ahead.

You know what's the one area that I somewhat trust Aquino on? It's on some of the EM stuff in MindWar and I'll tell you why. The ego. The ego never lies. He wants so badly to be taken seriously by his military colleagues that he wouldn't dare risk overstating the advancements in EM technology. The rest of us he just wants to make a buck on and gain a groupie here or there, imo.

Also, I am developing a keen interest in the RV connections here.
I know the programs were taken off the books officially, but these same characters surely continued their experiments while still running in these same circles... I bet the work went black, or was contracted out.

So in that regard, they are working with forgotten knowledge, instead of snazzy tech.

That's certainly a interesting question and many of the original RV'ers like to hint at that. I have to wonder though: Why mothball their most experienced cadre? Who trained the new wave?

Having asked those questions, though, I must admit that I certainly don't think our Paranormal Soldiers have given up and faded away. Quite the contrary.

reply to post by The GUT


What do you think Alexander means when he asks Hutchison if he is a part of the "system"?
He links it to poltergeist phenomena.

reply to post by The GUT


Double

Hope I'm not off topic here. I bring information about ProjectNaomi, chemical and possibly nanotech warfare, which everyone, at the least should know, has been visited upon them, where you live, specifically:

Surveillance, testing, upgrading, and the evaluation of special materials and items were also provided by MKNAOMI so as to ensure that no defects and unwanted contingencies emerged during operational conditions. For these purposes the U.S. Army's Special Operations Command (SOC) was assigned to assist the CIA in the development, testing, and maintenance procedures for the biological agents and delivery systems (1952). Both the CIA and SOC also modified guns that fired special darts coated with biological agents and various poisonous pills. The darts would serve to incapacitate guard dogs, infiltrate the area that the dogs were guarding, and then awaken the dogs upon exiting the facility. In addition, the SOC was also designated to research the potentials for using biological agents against other animals and crops.[citation needed]

A 1967 CIA memo which was uncovered by the Church Committee was confirmed to give evidence of at least three covert techniques for attacking and poisoning crops that have been examined under field conditions. On November 25, 1969, President Richard Nixon abolished any military practice involving biological weapons and Project MKNAOMI was dissolved. On February 14, 1970, a presidential order was given to outlaw all stockpiles of bacteriological weapons and nonliving toxins. However, despite this presidential order, a CIA scientist was able to acquire an estimated 11 grams of deadly shellfish toxin from SOC personnel at Fort Detrick. The toxin was then stored in a CIA laboratory where it remained undetected for over five years (Wikipedia, 2012).
Title: Wallace L. Pannier, At 81; Was Germ Warfare Scientist
Date: August 8, 2009
Source: Boston.com

Abstract: Wallace L. Pannier, a germ warfare scientist whose top-secret projects included a mock attack on the New York subway with powdered bacteria in 1966, has died of respiratory failure and other natural causes, his widow said. He died Thursday in Frederick. He was 81.

Mr. Pannier worked at Fort Detrick, a US Army installation in Frederick that tested biological weapons during the Cold War and is now a center for biodefense research. He worked in the Special Operations Division, a secretive unit operating there from 1949 to 1969, according to family members and published reports.
The unit developed and tested delivery systems for deadly agents such as anthrax and smallpox.

In 2004, Mr. Pannier told The Baltimore Sun that team members staged their mock attack on the New York subway in 1966 by shattering light bulbs packed with powdered bacteria on the tracks. They tracked the germs with air samplers disguised as suitcases.

“People could carry a brown bag with light bulbs in it, and nobody would be suspicious,’’ Mr. Pannier told the Sun. After a bulb broke, releasing the powder, “the trains swishing by would get it airborne,’’ he said.

The bacteria used as mock weapons, Bacillus globigii and Serratia marcescens, were believed to be harmless, but have since been classified as human pathogens.

A year earlier, the unit released Bacillus globigii in the air at Washington National Airport and at bus stations in Washington, Chicago, and San Francisco, a 1975 Senate investigation found.

Mr. Pannier also said he had posed as a fisherman, an air-quality tester, and a motorist with car trouble to measure germs leaking from a pharmaceutical plant on the Susquehanna River. The readings would help US spies trying to identify Soviet bioweapons plants (Boston.com, 2009).

With control of the EM field environment, as per Eidolon's and Gut's posts, with this added, it should give us all PAUSE, surely, as to what our government and subsidiaries have been using tax dollars to fund research in, and control, attack , and make us "sick."
Just MHO.
Tetra50

But, perhaps, this is a good segue to the Church committee?

JayinAR
reply to post by The GUT

 

What do you think Alexander means when he asks Hutchison if he is a part of the "system"?
He links it to poltergeist phenomena.

I find this question to be the heart and soul ,really, of the present quagmire, and do any of us really have the cajones or wherewithall to answer it true, who know??


that is the quintessential, 64,000 dollar quesion, JayinAR....Really, And thank you for asking it, though I don't expect it can be answered here, for there are no sources for it, though some of us may know....
Tetra50