Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

reply to post by The GUT


My dad used to tell a tale about a kid that used run away from the cops. He would run them by his parents house and magically their engines would quit. He would get away and then their cars could start. Apparantly something his parents triggered in the house had the ability to shut down the engines without harming them. It seems the cops eventually went into the house and confiscated something and the engine problem went away.
Perhaps just a tall tale but it was not like my dad to pass on this type tech. He certainly was not high tech as we see it today. A rumor from Rural Missouri.

tetra50
Can't quite follow your question. I know both Michael and Paul Smith. Don't see how NL CT fits with either. RV is not related to NLW. As for use for oppression, my point is that there are enough lethal weapons available to control the populous, NLWs add lttle to that capability.

Yeah, I noticed that AMA exchange. Hope this makes sense. If not, y'all just ignore me. Lots of good stuff in your post, but since you mentioned that Q&A, I need to get something off my chest. Here it is spread out over this and the next post:

While Alexander's cheerful-sounding assertion that there's enough lethal weapons to handle the population sounds good (or bad depending if you are them or us) on paper, he yet again cleanly sidesteps his own writings and nonlethal weaponry philosophy.

Nonlethal weapons are generally ALWAYS pitched as a way to basically avoid full-spectrum revolt by the citizenry under control. See how he sidestepped that?

What I mean, for example, is that under a Marshall Law edict that was a precursor to usurping the Constitution and implementing a New World Order, say, then nonlethal weaponry would not only come into it's own, but come in very handy.

Those Generals and troops that might be on the line about using lethal force on their own people, would more easily follow orders if the control was "nonlethal."

In addition, I picked up--as far as I can see--some very unwanted attention when trying to re-access some material Alexander wrote championing the blending of military forces/tactics/weaponry with state police forces.

The post below this one is only a small part of the personal experiences that have bubbled up in my life. If anyone dares try and access those papers/sites, it will be very interesting to see if you get the same pop-ups I get or not.

The following exchange can be put into total context at the below link if it gets too confusing:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

While some of Col. John B. Alexander's answers to other folk's questions on his AMA thread were personally interesting to me, I found the thread--not surprisingly--somewhere on the dark side of the illumination continuum.

The issues that both 727Sky and I were addressing pertain to Col. John B. Alexander's support and logistical papers concerning his positive perception of, and strategic-planning, as regards the blending of Military force/tactics/training/weaponry and State Police units in anticipation of who knows what. We don't know "what" because he hasn't told us.

First a little satire:

Q: What about a JFK conspiracy, Colonel?

A: Bollocks!! Conspiracy nuts!!

Q: Can you be more clear about those amazing Shamanistic experiences you referenced in your introduction?

A: Some small, round stones on the ground, erm, and a coin we found in our tent. MAGIC!!

So was the bullet, John, so was the bullet. Or so we've been told.

Okay, now for the entire exchange starting with a great question by 727Sky and my attempts at follow up.

727Sky gets the ball rolling:

John your thoughts on the militarization of the police forces and ad hock organizations tasked for crowd control inside the U.S. borders. Is this a normal evolution of cause and effect or have the inside circles of power that you might be aware of deemed it is essential for the survival of the republic or their own power structures? There have been many articles about all the alphabet agencies being armed and around here one report of the government buying over 1.7 billion rounds of hollow point ammo got many people's attention.. Comment if you care to or have an opinion?

Like you I have the benefit of a long hindsight which to my memory never included a Swat team plus backup for something that before was taken care of by a Mayberry Sherriff…?

Col. Alexander's response:

On my web site you'll find an entire monograph on this topic. I'll be writing more about it shortly - probably in my HP blog.

After encouraging him to answer 727Sky's questions, my response:

My question is, if you refer to the paper you co-authored with your son: Why, when I tried to access that paper from your website last year, while compiling the thread linked below, did I get a pop-up that basically stated something along the lines of "By accessing this file you give the DOD permission to permanently access and scan your hard-drive…" ??

The pop up froze my computer. Thusly, I'm hesitant to go to your site and attempt a download again…

Col. Alexander's reply:

I have not had that problem. There are both the monograph I wrote and a shorter piece co-authored with Mark. The monograph can also be accessed through the Joint Special Operations University web site and is available to the public.

After following his advice and going to the Joint Special Operations University web site to access that paper once and for all, my response:

When trying to access that document as per your reply at the Joint Special Operations University, I ran into a similar--though not exact--persistent pop-up screen that once again wants access to my computer. I've attached pics below. Imo, that's not exactly "public access" if I have to give consent to search.

I think the question that we want some kind of real response to regards the Constitutional questions raised by the blending of military tactics, training, and gear--both lethal and non-lethal--and state police forces. The whys and wherefores and just what kind of "forecasts" can justify the rhetoric.

Could you give us the title of both your monograph and that of the article co-authored with your son, Mark?

Thank You, Sir.

Screenshots:





Col. Alexander's reply:

send me a private email from my web site and I'll try to get you the info. Not sure why there is a problem

Col. Alexander did seem possibly--maybe--sincerely baffled as to why I'm experiencing those screens. If he is truly baffled, all I can say is that I picked up the attention on his website when I was doing continuing research on this thread and it follows me as I attempt to follow him and research his views.

Back on Point: Does it seem as if the major/points and questions asked of the Colonel might be a touchy subject? Neither Sky727's to the point questions nor my own about the blending of military and state police units and their relation to Constitutional issues received a response.

Note my comment from yesterday (regarding his upcoming AMA) two posts above this one (in reference to preparing questions for him):

(Ask about)...His connections to Homeland Security, and what that might portend for us in the future (what do they know that we don't?) is another fruitful area of questioning I imagine. Fruitful in a read-between-the-lines and observation of where sidestepping occurs that is.

(Much sidestepping, you will note, did occur methinks)

Put these two names together and you will see evil in all it's darkness,Colonel Michael Aquino is high priest of the temple of set, arguably the world’s most prolific satanic institution. Aquino, a former disciple of Anton LaVey (founder of First Church of Satan), is reportedly a master psychic, good at psionics, and rumored the highest ranking member of the NSA. Many stories of ritual child abuse including murder have circulated about this guy for decades including stories of abuses in the Presidio, and although taken to court several times has never been convicted. Together with Col. John B Alexander of Los Alamos and Gen. Albert Stubblebine he co-formed Psychotechnologies, Inc (Psi-Tech) that teaches remote viewing. Now that makes me feel safe to have these two in high ranking positions of intelligence

FireMoon
BTW... with regards to the RV programme, I'm suffering a tad of information overload of late on this whole topic however, wasn't it cancelled at the behest of a new security adviser who was a christian fundamentalist appointed by Reagan?

The RV program did have a minor critic I know of that did fit that basic description, but from my understanding, the program was targeted and cut for more secular reasons having to do with general skepticism, a negative--though disputed--scientific review, it's perceived operational non-usefulness, and budget-slashing concerns.

Nvrmnd

reply to post by The GUT


Excellent work,The Gut,s+f heartily deserved-this is one of the best quality threads I have yet seen on ATS-bravo!

reply to post by Eidolon23


Okay, round 1:

There is a wealth of evidence showing that weakly intense ELF fields affect the metabolic
responses in cells. It was found in the 1980s that ELF magnetic fields too weak to be considered
as inductive sources of potential differences are nevertheless capable of affecting DNA synthesis
in mammalian cell culture. Since that time, there have been numerous reports (Table 1) that
magnetic fields on the order of several microTesla and in the 3-300 Hz ELF frequency range can
affect a wide range of biological systems

"Affecting"? How about "disrupting" as a corrollary?

We are able to make reproducible and consistent physiological changes of various sorts in the widest imaginable range of genera simply by applying weak magnetic fields tuned to the charge-to-mass ratio of various biological ions. It is very clear that [this] must be part of a heretofore unknown system that carries physiological information/instructions, and that better understanding will open the way to providing a radically new means of controlling wellness.

And vice versa.

There is evidence indicating that ICR applications can increase the rates of proliferation in neuroblastoma cell culture. Is It possible that there exist yet-to-be-tried ICR conditions that would have the opposite effect, namely to reduce the rates of proliferation in cancer cell lines, thereby opening the way to new cancer fighting techniques?

Or accelerate those rates, eh? There's your fast-acting cancer, GUT.

Positive ramifications here in re: the subtle body/gross body chicken and egg quandary:

In this approach the tweaking of biological systems with weakly energetic electromagnetic signals reveals an underlying order to organisms, one in which the electromagnetic is elevated above the biochemical.

www.bioinitiative.org...

Begs the question: what are we really monkeying around with when we use this tech? The body? Or the soul?

Anyways. I still have an hour or so, I'll keep going till I can't.

Just so we English don't feel left out of the fun, here are a few things FL recently drew attention to/hinted at, regarding the DERA - Defence Evaluation and Research Agency near Bedhampton, a UFO hotspot, Area 47 (of the brain...).


DERA base Bedhampton/Portsmouth ufo's

Bedhampton UFO'S

In learning situations, studies with EEG have shown that during the initial experience of a new activity (e.g., the transmission of the brain waves to the target brain for the first time), neural pathways are established during the first few minutes that will determine how the brain will engage its learned memories of this activity again in the future.

… so that the subject was able to see what we wanted him to see.


When observing how various individuals responded to a predetermined stimulus, we were surprised to find that not only was the reflex behavior invariant among them, but a form of pre-knowledge was suggested as the nerve cells engaged in the reflex process were interconnected in exactly the same neural pattern for every individual that was examined.

Neurosounding and the Bedhampton Experiment

reply to post by Eidolon23


Round 2:

The abstract:

Physical parameters that are used to characterize different types of electromagnetic devices used in neurotherapy can include power, frequency, carrier frequency, current, magnetic field intensity, and whether an application is primarily electric or primarily magnetic. Currents can range from tens of microamperes to hundreds of milliamperes, magnetic fields from tens of microtesla to more than one tesla, and frequencies from a few Hz to more than 50 GHz. A division into three device categories is proposed, based on the current applied and the specificity of the therapeutic signal. Two research areas have great potential for new neuroelectromagnetic strategies. Studies of endogenous neural oscillatory states suggest using external fields to reinforce or inhibit such states. Also, various independent groups have reported that weak magnetic fields, in particular ion cyclotron resonance fields, are capable of sharply altering behavior in rats.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

And specifically?



books.google.com...=onepage&q&f=false

reply to post by Eidolon23


When examining the medical lit and speculating on how therapeutic usage might be weaponized, I found the most startling implications were to be found in looking at how morphogenesis is electrodynamic in nature, and how that process can be directed or interrupted.



Okay, there was more, but I gotta jet.

BBS.

Excellent thread.

I have always found the whole subject of RV interesting and that if you were to apply the same apparent hit ratios to the sessions that involve UFO's / ET what that actually reveals. Unfortunately as pretty unverifiable you can't pick the hits from the misses so other than to say that yes, there appears to be a real phenomenon, it seems we are as likely to be the descendants of a subterranean civilisation living on Mars as we are to gaining a usable tool for actual research.

reply to post by The GUT


Excellent thread, and so much work was put into it. About 30 years ago I had a thought that electricity was more than just something to turns the lights in the house. Mainly because of the of the ability to energize thoughts and the human mind,but then when I heard that energy could not be destroyed but only changed, this seemed to me to be the basis for the human soul and that somehow the electrical thoughts of our mind continued to live on even after the death of our bodies.

I have always been more right brained, and an imaginary writer and artist, but a few months ago I felt compelled to start studying about electricity. This is more left brain subject, and most electricians would probably never dream that there is anything more to it than things like turning on light bulbs. I think that if we had more right brained people take a look at this type of science that maybe the industry could be in for a giant quantum leap, then again maybe we are all wrong and we won't get anything more out of it than a good sci-fi story, and movie deal... but, that wouldn't be so bad either.

reply to post by jasmine23


[emphasis mine]

Put these two names together and you will see evil in all it's darkness, Colonel Michael Aquino is high priest of the temple of set, arguably the world’s most prolific satanic institution. Aquino, a former disciple of Anton LaVey (founder of First Church of Satan), is reportedly a master psychic, good at psionics, and rumored the highest ranking member of the NSA. Many stories of ritual child abuse including murder have circulated about this guy for decades including stories of abuses in the Presidio, and although taken to court several times has never been convicted. Together with Col. John B Alexander of Los Alamos and Gen. Albert Stubblebine he co-formed Psychotechnologies, Inc (Psi-Tech) that teaches remote viewing. Now that makes me feel safe to have these two in high ranking positions of intelligence

A couple of things.

[ Mods: please do not view this as being 'off topic'. We are being told not to pay attention to one man's very intimate knowledge of the topic of this thread (Electro-Magnetism) because of some opinion that he has been discredited - would we (ATS) have afforded him a platform if he was as bad as being portrayed by some members? I think not]

First and foremost, I know nothing about the church of Satan or satanic rituals or whatever - I am not now, nor have I ever been religious. But, I DO know from what little I have been exposed to that this worship does not necessarily have the negative connotations that one would automatically assume simply due to the dichotomy presented in the Bible.

Furthermore, the negative (maybe deservedly so, maybe not - I don't know) view of the practice can almost entirely be attributed to Christians, Religious Right, and Satanic cult Scare (led by the aforementioned) in the 80s and 90s.

I don't understand any of it, but KNOW that the majority of our understanding (and fear) of it comes directly from ONE side of the discussion - like everything else. (propaganda, bias, politics, etc)

Next... "Many stories of ritual child abuse including murder have circulated about this guy for decades including stories of abuses in the Presidio, and although taken to court several times has never been convicted." - His battles with the court most assuredly arose due to accusation (whether false or true) from the other side of the argument... and in a COURT OF LAW, he beat it, so I think he might deserve a little benefit of the doubt, here.

I know Nothing of the topics we are arguing - just now learning - I am merely playing devil's advocate. But, instead of personal diatribes, however, I would appreciate statistical data and empirical evidence when making an argument.

Thanks.

(and, thanks for the info to this part - seriously)

I wonder if the tires deflate due to localized heat.
If lighting strikes a car I would expect the tires to either deflate or completely blow out.

I am beginning to notice a disturbing trend in the UFOlogy arena, and it is something GUT touched on earlier in the thread. It seems as if we may be being prepped for the birth of a new religious paradigm.

What we seem to have is a phenomena that appears to be both physical and psychic (strange and possibly key for intels ultimate goal). The intelligence folks are playing a double cover here. They are dropping crumbs that the phenomena is very real, while maintaining officially that there is little to it. The illusion created is that they are in bed with forces beyond our reckoning.

Mindwar. To end physical conflict. Blue beam 2.0 if you will.

If this is their goal, I dunno how well Vallee can be trusted. It would be nice to see him invited for an AMA thread.

reply to post by SquirrelNutz

If my post was totally off topic then the mods are free to move it,i have no problem with that,i was just making the point that the two men in question have ties to Los Alamos that deal in mind control,

Boy-oh-boy I can't wait to start discussing all the goodies y'all have dropped off here since last night!

Firstly though, here's my feelings on Aquino: The evidence for the Presidio scandal is murky at best, lacking at most. I'm certainly not saying it didn't happen, but I can't say it did and, further, I think there's much more recent and documented issues to question and grill him about such as MindWars and his loyalties to something other than that which most of us hold dear.

Probably most of us here at some point in their life have been accused of something they didn't do, and therefore know how much that can hurt and how frustrating it can be. Even if I believed there might be something to it, I can't, after reading about that case pro and con, personally untangle it enough to comment much.

On the other hand, I DON"T trust him to have our bests interests at heart and I personally find his philosophy full of holes and doublespeak, but I refrain from focusing on anything I can't make my own case for.

He is not off-topic to this thread because of his psyop and other associations not to mention MindWar---where he gets pretty darn excited and mentally erect about messing with folks minds utilizing all kinds of EM technology.

I personally have no problem with Jasmine--or anyone else--stating their Presidio opinion here as long as they hit it and then move on.

SquirrellNutz made some very fine points, too, and I hope y'all can feel how much I appreciate your continued participation here. Because, I'll tell you a secret: This thread is important to me. I really need to get some things off my chest and I need y'alls opinions on some of these issues so I don't get too stagnant in my own thinking.

I learn a LOT from my ATS family, no lie, and I'm ever grateful for that.

SquirrellNutz: Thanks for bringing up Aquino's MW suggestion about TMS:

(TMS) temporarily disrupts an individual’s ability to make judgments based upon previously-learned morality. In effect, pre-indoctrination is suppressed, resulting in the subject’s tending to judge situations more on a discrete cause-and-effect basis. In theory, TMS could be used to condition personnel to make decisions unencumbered by prior moral, social, or ethical indoctrination; and to remove that same protective indoctrination from a hostile individual being interrogated. TMS thus approaches in scientific reality the mythical “brainwashing” of classic conspiracy legend.

Some may find his philosophy on that refreshing, I personally don't. The reality is, however, that these sorts of technologies are being seriously pursued and don't think for a minute that any tech that has weaponry, or control, potential won't be prostituted, eh?

reply to post by Kantzveldt

Good stuff on DERA base and Bedhampton. I have a feeling it might be an interesting addition to the Great Balls of Fire section. Can't wait to dig into it deeper when I have more time this evening.

As far as you lovely Brits being left out: Heck, I'm not so sure the theory that the MOD, Tavistock, etc. are really pulling the strings on a grand scale is off base!

In addition, there are many programs and technologies that Britain and the U.S. have explored on your side of the pond that will come into play. Some of the best ones actually. The MOD UFO report is gonna be a centerpiece, but I don't want to say much on that right now. It's revealing and intriguing reading though…especially if one reads between the lines and keeps in mind that it's only PARTIALLY declassified.

Eidolon23

Heebie-Jeebies, Eidy! Some of the official declassified documents show much interest in and expand on such research. Just goes to show how their presence in the academic community is put to use. Sounds, in some of it, like they've moved the ball up the field, too.

Here's a graphic that relates to a fairly recent finding and speaks, I think, to your research and SquirellNutz' mention of the TMS stuff:


What kind of confusion and memory effects could one get by applying various fields to the magnetite (something like hematite if I understand correctly) in our brain? All Ur Brainz R Belong To Us, muah-ha-ha...