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DrumsRfun
reply to post by FlyingTeacup
Project Camelot and the people affiliated with it are some of the biggest crocks of crap out there.
David Icke,David Wilcock,John Lear,Duncan O'Finnian,Dan Burisch etc etc
The list of idiots and snakeoil salesmen goes on and on.
All of them have stories...nothing more.
For Bob Dean to get caught in a lie is no surprise to me.
Its sad that some people take the words of these idiots as gospel.
DrumsRfun
reply to post by FlyingTeacup
Project Camelot and the people affiliated with it are some of the biggest crocks of crap out there.
David Icke,David Wilcock,John Lear,Duncan O'Finnian,Dan Burisch etc etc
The list of idiots and snakeoil salesmen goes on and on.
All of them have stories...nothing more.
For Bob Dean to get caught in a lie is no surprise to me.
Its sad that some people take the words of these idiots as gospel.
A battlefield commission is awarded to enlisted soldiers who are promoted to the rank of commissioned officer for outstanding leadership on the field of battle.
If he was a CSM he would have never been given a battle field commission.
spirit_horse
One thing you may consider is that often in war people are given Field Commissions of a higher rank or Officer. However, it does not remain their rank after the war, they return to whatever rank the held before the field commission. If he was a command seargent major, he could have been given a field commission of Lt.
Now, I haven't watched his videos or anything, so I don't know what contxt he was saying he was a Lt.
A battlefield commission is awarded to enlisted soldiers who are promoted to the rank of commissioned officer for outstanding leadership on the field of battle.
Here is an article in Wikipedia on Battlefield Promotions.
Source
edit on 11/10/13 by spirit_horse because: (no reason given)
It's a mostly desk job with very few going out into battle. Handing out a commission to a CSM would devalue the persons usefulness to a military unit.
United States Army
In the U.S. Army, sergeant major refers to both a military rank and a specific leadership position. It is the highest enlisted rank, just above first sergeant and master sergeant, with a pay grade of E-9, NATO rank OR-9 . The leadership position—command sergeant major—is the senior enlisted advisor to the commanding officer and carries with it certain ceremonial functions such as caring for the unit's colors (flag). Additionally, command sergeants major serve as monitors of, and advocates for, the enlisted soldiers in the command. This position mostly exists in units of battalion size and larger.
Oouthere
Bob Dean seems to be of high character imo. Just because he retired as enlisted does not mean he was not an officer during the time he had his experiences.
I was ten years air force and worked with a lady that was passed over for her officer promotion. She went into an E-5 position late in her career to finish out her retirement. Becoming an officer in the U.S. military is difficult, holding those positions are even more difficult.
Until you can prove this did not happen to him, I'd lay off.
Rich
This is an early video, it's one of the first Camelot videos that interviews Bob Dean, it was made before Project Camelot turned Bob Dean into the "super star" that he has become and that he brags about.
signalfire
Maybe he misspoke, getting the times he was in certain countries and the number of stripes he had at any given time mixed up; if you want to debunk him, go after his testimony, not something silly like this. It feels a lot like grasping at straws.