13000 Year Old Satellite. The Full Story Behind the Black Knight.

reply to post by alfa1


Actually the OP put this thread up in a rush. He is away working and will be back on either Thurs eve or Fri eve... He posted because he thought it was interesting and he did not know much about it.

reply to post by bluestreak53


What does it matter that there is another one..? If it annoys you so much why bother posting in the thread..? Also I think it is good that there are more than one thread on subjects such as these. You may say use the search. But if you never heard of the Black Knight before. How would you know what to search....?

Even in this thread I see posters who have thanked the OP for his post as they had never heard of this before........

reply to post by bluestreak53


I agree with Hydrawolf. Also please see post reply to alfa1 I cannot be bothered repeating myself.

Maybe nothing new was posted. But there are now certainly 5/6 posters in this thread who now know about the Black Knight as they did not before. Surely it is up to them to do their own research and decide for themselves what they think.

reply to post by covertpanther

Every year on ATS, there is a "new" black knight thread, always making it to the front page..

I guess Mods get lazy? Do one ATS search on "black Knight" and many threads pop up over the past several years..

This site is becoming the lamest "alternative news" site on the internet.

Every year on ATS, there are more ignorant people. Like I have said in a previous post if the OP had not put this thread up many people would still be oblivious to the Black Knight. How can you search for something when you do not know what it is yet...?

If this site is so lame why are you still here..? Why did you bother to post..? Why does this thread now have 97 flags..? Surely many members of this site have deemed it an interesting worth a read thread...

It is good thing that old subjects are being seen by new eyes...

P.S. I am pretty sure the mods are not that lazy...

reply to post by purplemer


OP I am glad you put this thread up.. Thank You...

The legend of the Black Knight did indeed start with Nikola Tesla...

Nicola Tesla did indeed pick up rhythmic radio signals in 1899, and he did believe they came from space. Today we believe he was correct, and that what he picked up were pulsars, giant deep space sources of pulsing radio signals that were formally discovered in 1968. As pulsars were unknown in Tesla's day, he did his best to explain what he thought they might be: intelligent but undeciphered signals.

Interesting to note...

The Norwegian scientists did indeed receive LDE radio reflections, and their cause remains nearly as much a mystery today as it did then. Today we have five probable explanations, any or all of which may be responsible for some LDEs, and they mostly pertain to strange effects in the Earth's ionosphere. They are among about 15 plausible explanations. None of these includes orbiting alien satellites; although if an alien satellite elected to enter our orbit, record our transmissions, and transmit them back to us 8 seconds later, it could well have the same effect.

skeptoid.com...

This is an interesting story, especially for those who have never heard of it before, but the truth is that there is no such satellite in orbit, now or in the past. Various encounters with signals from space and visual sightings even, were apparently all amalgamated into being this mysterious object. To back up my claims a little more, let's analyze some of the claims individually.

First let's take the entire idea of Epsilon Bootes. This star system was drawn into the argument by Lunan in 73', and it is funny to note that he had no clue about the supposed Black Knight satellite. He basically did a very illogical and unscientific analysis of the LDE data. To prove my point, he came out an admitted this fact, and retracted all of his claims.

Then there is the claim that Tesla picked up strange signals coming from space. This is true, but scientists are fairly certain today, and the evidence supports this, that he was detecting pulsars, which were still unknown at that particular time. Then there is the claim this object was in a polar orbit, which from the available data, would have been inaccurate. There was some space junk up there in an orbit that was close to a polar orbit, but still off by a significant number of degrees. The physical object that was seen was actually half of the capsule fairing that surrounded the Discoverer 8 craft, launched in 1959. In fact, the other half of this fairing, which was tracked by NASA, had an almost identical pattern of movement, perigee, apogee, altitude, etc. This tells me that the other half, which was not tracked, is what people were calling this strange satellite.

This is just some information to get those started who wish to know the truth. There is other excellent evidence to suggest that what I am describing is the truth, and all one must do is go out and look into the matter themselves.

Please Help how the heck can you start a new thread here???? I go to new thread and im given a blank page that's it??

JiggyPotamus
Then there is the claim that Tesla picked up strange signals coming from space. This is true, but scientists are fairly certain today, and the evidence supports this, that he was detecting pulsars...

Rather doubtful.
The story about picking up the signals comes as a side note from his work on transmitting signals from one place to another on earth. Tesla was using huge spark generators:

A few years ago it was virtually impossible to produce electrical sparks twenty or thirty foot long; but I produced some more than one hundred feet in length, and this without difficulty.

...and he would send those big sparks into the air using the earth as a return path for the signal:

Some ten years ago, I recognized the fact that to convey electric currents to a distance it was not at all necessary to employ a return wire, but that any amount of energy might be transmitted by using a single wire.

...and this much is true. You could do it today except that you'd be fined for disrupting all sorts of regular radio communications. But lightning does the same thing. And it was while he was trying to perfect the recieving end, that he was also perfecting his lightning detectors:

As I was improving my machines for the production of intense electrical actions, I was also perfecting the means for observing feeble effects.
One of the most interesting results, and also one of great practical importance, was the development of certain contrivances for indicating at a distance of many hundred miles an approaching storm, its direction, speed and distance travelled.

So at this point he's got big spark generators, and spark detectors.
Some years later, he recounts the story to Collier's Weekly:

The changes I noted were taking place periodically, and with such a clear suggestion of number and order that they were not traceable to any cause then known to me

...and he says to himself "therefore, aliens!"

link

So whats this got to do with pulsars?
Nothing.
Pulsars are difficult to detect, and even todays hobbyists use huge directed receiving antennas and digital signal processing to detect pulsars already known. A lightning detector, even one built by somebody as clever as Tesla, isnt going to pick them up by accident.

Whatever it was that he was detecting, (and he's very vague on the details) it isnt pulsars.

Sorry for my ignorance, but to my belief they never sent a shuttle into a polar orbit.
My question could they? what would they find? Or not want to find?
What we have now .....what science that could find out about this object beyond what we are being told I truly feel NASA knows more than what they are telling us!

Instead of spending billions of dollars looking at other planets, comets,moons and asteroids , spend less than that and send a probe that can make a close up encounter with the Black Knight.

But then again why would they do that if they already know what is their...Twilight Zone Music Please....do do do do !

If the "Black Knight" satellite is real, and proves to be alien in origin, then perhaps it was placed in orbit to intercept the microwave beam being emitted by the pyramids, effectively sending that energy off into deep space to whomever created it. Just a thought.

Whateva69
reply to post by Wolfenz

 

Im sorry i cant help you out there, i know very little about the Greek Gods.

As for the thunderbird it sounds very much like a craft to me.

Thunderbird

The singular thunderbird (as the Nuu-chah-nulth thought of it) was said to reside on the top of a mountain, and was the servant of the Great Spirit. It was also told that the thunderbird controlled rainfall. The plural thunderbirds (as the Kwakwaka'wakw and Cowichan tribes believed) could shapeshift into human form by tilting back their beaks like a mask, and by removing their feathers as if it were a feather-covered blanket. There are stories of thunderbirds in human form marrying into human families; some families may trace their lineage to such an event. Families of thunderbirds who kept to themselves but wore human form were said to have lived along the northern tip of Vancouver Island

your right craft it is !! The claims of the size of the Black Night from observers of britian was the size of a Bus assuming a Double Decker Bus possible a Station >? like satellite with Being inside ? as the Thunderbird Legend says and much like the Sons of Anak Sons of God mating with Humans in Christianity

Great Spirit

The Great Spirit or Great Mystery is generally believed to be personal, close to the people, and immanent in the fabric of the material world. Lakotah prayers refer to him as Grandfather; however, not all Nations assign gender, or only one gender, to the Great Mystery. Chief Dan Evehema, a spiritual leader of the Hopi Nation, described the Great Spirit as follows: "To the Hopi, the Great Spirit is all powerful. He taught us how to live, to worship, where to go and what food to carry, gave us seeds to plant and harvest. He gave us a set of sacred stone tablets into which he breathed all teachings in order to safeguard his land and life. In these stone tablets were inscribed instructions, prophecies and warnings."

This Pretty much Sound like the Same thing in Sumerian Mythology

Well Who to Say that this Black Knight goes in and out of Dimensions just Appearing every so Often ..

This So called Space Station Satellite... also bring to me the Legends of Sumerian God Wars Controlling this Planet on and in Space...



Love and harmony
Whateva

edit on 8/10/13 by Whateva69 because: links

Well if it does exist I need to see an actual photo of it not Space Debris or Shuttle Parts LOL

reply to post by purplemer


Gordon Cooper one of the original astronauts who took the first look and flight at Black Knight Sept 3rd 1960

On September 3, 1960, seven months after the satellite was first detected by radar, a tracking camera at Grumman Aircraft Corporation’s Long Island factory took a photograph of it.

People on the ground had been occasionally seeing it for about two weeks at that point. Viewers would make it out as a red glowing object moving in an east-to-west orbit. Most satellites of the time, according to what little material I’ve been able to find on the black knight satellite, moved from west-to-east. It’s speed was also about three times normal.

A committee was formed to examine it, but nothing more was ever made public.
Three years later, Gordon Cooper was launched into space for a 22 orbit mission. On his final orbit, he reported seeing a glowing green shape ahead of his capsule, and heading in his direction. It’s said that the Muchea tracking station, in Australia, which Cooper reported this too was also able to pick it up on radar traveling in an east-to-west orbit.

On coast-to-coast television, Cooper recently made a blockbuster statement that had the telephone lines tied up the next day, as viewers telephoned the stations which carried the syndicated Merv Griffin Show, anxious to find out if their ears had been playing tricks on them the night before.

Toward the end of the talk-show host's interview with the former Astronaut, Merv broke into a secretive tone of voice right on the air, and aimed a hundred-thousand-dollar question at his guest: 'There is a story going around, Gordon, that a spaceship did land in middle America and there were occupants, and members of our government were able to keep one of the occupants alive for a period of time. They've seen the metal of the aircraft and they know what the people look like - is that a credible story?'

For all intents and purposes Cooper should have laughed for assuredly such a speculative story belongs in the category of science fiction or space fantasy. But Gordon Cooper kept a straight face when he replied: 'I think it's fairly credible. I would like to see the time when all qualified people could really work together to properly investigate these stories and either refute or prove them.'

The bombshell had been dropped. Cooper went on to say that from the various reports of UFO contacts and abductions he had been privy to, he was convinced that the occupants of this crashed UFO were 'probably not that different from what we are,' - that they are almost totally humanoid (i.e., have two arms, two legs, a torso and readily identifiable facial features) in appearance.

Taken aback by what Cooper had said over the national airwaves, Lee Spiegel telephoned Cooper's office the following morning and managed to get past his private secretary, though others in the media were getting the cold shoulder.


'Cooper admitted to me that he could have revealed more on the air, but he decided not to play his entire hand because he felt certain that some 'official eyebrows were going to get raised'.'"

btw the black knight is not around anymore

links below

transmissionsmedia.com...

www.ufocasebook.com...

www.thelivingmoon.com...

Trinity

reply to post by trinityalways


Why are you hiding that you just retyped a copyrighted story from the 'National Enquirer', without proper attribution or authorization?

I find it hilarious and amusing, but at the same time sad that a piece of metal junk is such a celebrity

gortex
reply to post by purplemer

 

I hate to rain on your parade purplemer but the object in the image has been shown to be a thermal cover lost on the sts88 mission .

Lol. Heck of a funny looking thermal cover and that too in polar orbit.
Any engineer can tell you that it is definitely craft of sorts

reply to post by purplemer


It clearly the sts88 debris. When you check the sts88 debris handheld excerpt video carefully (which has been posted in this threat several times) you can see even the same shape (eg. at 1:24).

Folks, I am working more than 26 years in space business. There is no such Black Night satellite! You really think that NASA and all other people working in this domain worldwide are part of a conspiracy and are lying to public?
Yes, there are some ufo encounters, but 99% can be explained. So sure there is still 1% left and each astronaut I have meet has seen something out there. But please not something that you can categorize as a 13.000 year old satellite. That's bull# - because space industry would have launched already a project if this would be true.
It's a debris from sts88 and nothing more.

This reminds me of the whole... Project Camelot transcript with Clifford Stone. Where he mentioned about asteroids being satellites.

Clifford Stone interview:

C: Well, I’ll tell you this, I think that by 2016 that something better have happened. Because at 2016 I think that we’re going to have to announce to the world that there’s a probe that comes very close to the Earth every 15 or 20 years. And we’ve been calling it an asteroid. It’s not an asteroid. But it actually in reality is an artificial probe. In other words, somebody else put it here. They have found us long time ago. The technology will probably be pretty much on a par to, say, Voyager. It’ll be old antiquated technology by all their standards.

K: So what are you saying? Is this probe… do you know what race?

C: I’m saying we have already found it. Our paradigm says that it can’t be an artificial craft of any sort, therefore we refuse to accept that and we call it an asteroid. I’m talking about BG1991. Roughly 30 meters in diameter, highly polished surface. Asteroids don’t have a highly polished surface. It took corrective course changes to avoid collision with another asteroid. That don’t happen. This one it did.

No intention to derail the OP, just remembered that somehow, the Black Knight topic gets tied to this discussion before.

I'm kind of on the fence about Black Knight. My mind is generally pretty open about these type of things. However, we are not that primitive right now. You mean to tell me that we could man Mars now but we're still not too sure if there's a foreign space object that is periodically in our orbit? That's impossible.

The existence of Black Knight should be relatively easy to prove by now.

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saucerprobe
I very rarely post but I think the story itself is real. An unknown was detected, however like many have said the story has become twisted. I remember reading that it's orbit is not fixed just to Earths Orbit. All the posts I read by small minded people go up study it -lasso it! Do you really think that would be possible? Does its functioning have to be a human's understanding on rocket type fuel? We cannot imagine what a superior race uses e.g UFO'S we can grab the concept of what they are let alone how they get here. Those news stories im afraid was the first and last of it (shut tight straight after publishing) They do not want the people to know! What I find most intriguing is we don't even know who we are or how we got here LOL. We know nothing accept the big ol circle we live on and studying that from a scientific perspective has proven we still have a lot to learn.

Just my two cents
Saucerprobe

If I read your post correctly you think an artificial satellite needs fuel to stay in orbit. This is not the case, the reason our communications use tiny jets of nitrogen to keep it pointed at the earth, but at 22,000 miles out these satellites will still be up there for 100,000 plus years.
Our 2nd satellite Vangard (was supposed be our 1st hence the name) was a grapefruit-sized round satellite that used some of the 1st solar cells to send a 'beep-beep' they were going to use batteries but the solar cells came along at the right time, they expected it to last a few weeks to months but it sent signals for 7 years! Also, just by sheer luck the orbit was so stable it will be up there for 100,000 plus years as well!
The only satellites that re-enter are the low orbit ones that slow down as it hits the outer atmosphere until the friction pull it in.
I don't believe in this Black Knight, here is all I can say about it. As a child I read the United States put up a bunch of FM 'fence' signals so if something was in orbit, we would know it. At the time I believe I heard there was something like 52 known artificial satellites but they said they also detected another one that 'nobody' was aware of. Considering this was the middle of the Cold War it seemed the likely culprit the USSR, there might still be a lot of unknown 'secret' satellites in orbit.
One more thing that proves the photos of the 'Black Knight' couldn't be a satellite that has been in or will be in orbit very long is it is too close to Earth, the photos prove that they were taken in low Earth orbit and like I explained above, an object that close to earth won't last long before it starts skimming the outer atmosphere.
I do know about satellites as I was involved with the Iridium satellites and built parts for them (look up some of my older posts).

reply to post by Angelic Resurrection


I agree.. I am not sure what it is but it is not a thermal cover..

reply to post by Whateva69


Thank you for your reply...I am not sure I agree with your conclusion. However I too think the Norse Gods exist.