Almost Too Horrible to Contemplate: Global Warming Could Destroy the Lives of 750 Million People in

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over 20 years with this BS......and guess what? Nothing has happened ....

What do they want more trillions of dollars? To impose more taxes and regulations?

And on top of it all....the earths climate is getting colder....

Not to mention that the science is starting to show that the sun is the main factor in earths climate cycles ...
But no......human awfulness will destroy the planet.....because we are god like that....and like good omnipotent beings we need to "save" the planet.....

please. I am done with the BS. Climate blah blah blah......

Here is a hint:
If david Rothschild supports it....its not in YOUR best interest.

go little eco minions.....spread the doom porn, the stock market needs a boost.

NightTImeLord
Wow, those figures are staggering...
I honestly think the biggest obstacle facing those of us understanding these issues, is not the blatant disregard of facts that the majority of the public exhibit towards purported "global warming" (symptoms alone humanity cannot seem to agree upon). More so the question that I am sure many of us have asked too many times ourselves..

What can we do about it?

Sure I can recycle everything, keep compost, attend rallys and even leave behind society and live in the wild.
But when my ecological stain on this earth over my lifetime is just a drop the ocean of daily mega-business... well..

At this point it just feels like Bandage-Over-Bullet-Wound Syndrome....

Without sounding to Woo-Woo believe it is possible to make a difference is number one. Stay informed - do your composing and recycling, etc. etc.

Don't bury your head in the sand, denying the facts and situation as many do. Question the motive of those who finance the (I have to steal Dr. Richard Alley's term) Climate Zombies. I have trouble getting my head around that particular stupidity.

Then I will add - there are things we, collectively, can do, if there is political will and leadership. Other countries are doing much. It helps not only the environmnet but their economies as well.

Why isn't the US the leader in Solar technology and Battery Technology. Why?

There are many do-able plans - Heck if we'd followed President Jimmy Carter's plan, we wouldn't be in the shape we are now.

As someone said eariler - it doesn't matter who's at fault - it only matters that we reverse the trends or we will ALL BE DEAD. RIch and Poor. White and Brown. Young and Old. Left and RIght.

CLIMATE ZOMBIES - he he

I end with another quote from:

www.commondreams.org...

Last year I participated as a panelist in The Anthropocene: Planet Earth in the Age of Humans symposium at the Smithsonian in Washington, DC. I was on the panel “Energizing the Anthropocene: Science for Smart Decisions” with eminent climate scientist Dr. Richard Alley. Richard first gave a long view of global warming, and then provided a road map of how with a $1 trillion investment, the US can move away from fossil fuels entirely. He is a great communicator of climate science, especially when it comes to debunking the deniers’ bogus claims. I’ll pull some quotes from a talk he gave earlier this year in June at an American Geophysical Union–Chapman conference “Communicating Climate Science: A Historic Look to the Future” at the Snow Mountain Ranch in Granby, Colorado. His remarkable solo act is a journey through his own life and explains in less than three minutes—how climate zombies can survive on this earth, and keep reappearing.

marg6043
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Climate change is part of earth nature is nothing we humans can do about it, is going to happen regardless as it been happening since earth beginnings.

That is in error - there is much we can do to mitigate climate change regardless of the causes. And their are many causes. Yes we are part of a natural system and the effects of human activity directly effect this system. And we have tipped the climate into feedback loops that exaserbate the effects of those activities.

By your logic because we didn't cause global warming (just one issue in the overall and undeniable pollution situation) we have no responsibility to do anything.

Just sit back - spew CO2 and wait to die - REALLY?

tadaman
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over 20 years with this BS......and guess what? Nothing has happened ....

What do they want more trillions of dollars? To impose more taxes and regulations?

And on top of it all....the earths climate is getting colder....

Not to mention that the science is starting to show that the sun is the main factor in earths climate cycles ...
But no......human awfulness will destroy the planet.....because we are god like that....and like good omnipotent beings we need to "save" the planet.....

please. I am done with the BS. Climate blah blah blah......

Here is a hint:
If david Rothschild supports it....its not in YOUR best interest.

go little eco minions.....spread the doom porn, the stock market needs a boost.

edit on 9 30 2013 by tadaman because: (no reason given)

People, scientists and naturalist, have been warning about this for over a hundred years. Simple system dynamics shows the truth of climate change. The sun probably plays a part. Are you just going to sit there and wait to die, wait for your children to die?

Behold the coming apocalypse as predicted on and around Earth Day, 1970:
1."Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald
2."We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner
3."Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction." — New York Times editorial
4."Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich
5."Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich
6."It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day
7."Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
8."In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine
9."At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
10."Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich
11."By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
12."[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine
13."The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt

www.freedomworks.org...



I betcha it was scary back in 1970 also.

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No is nothing we can do is going to happen regardless now you can follow the profiteers of money on global change and give away you hard earned dollars on the fallacy than paying taxes to change the climate is going to work.

Well you do that I got better things to do with my hard earned dollars.

I wonder if the dinosaurs were asked to pay taxes before their demises and climate related change into extinction

The climate change that the profiteers are trying to sell is all about money.

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We have the ability and resources to tackle climate change (at least to the best of our abilities).

I think it does not so much come down to not knowing what we should be doing, but the unwillingness of those with the logistcs and/or technological advances nessecary TO ACUTALLY ACHIEVE RESULTS.
Weither it due to "profits" or belief that this is a natural process we, humanity, are simply along the ride for.

I guess we have to ask ourselves, if its fine for humanity (as a whole) to commit atrocites against this planet we live on for the sake of progress, is it not our responsibilty to at least ATTEMPT to negate some of that damage to our home planet?
I know the answer, heck deep down most people do.

Pity power corrupts, because thats exactly what is needed to do anything SIGNIFICANT about these issues.

reply to post by FyreByrd

The sun probably plays a part. Are you just going to sit there and wait to die, wait for your children to die?

Um....Do you know the secret to immortality?

And ...um....how is my money going to help¿

also....UM.....isnt that a little extreme of a consequence to this?

I hate the doom porn, extremist, alarmist, and insane arguments offered to anyone who doesnt buy this crap going on for several decades now.

My heart strings were clipped when I realized that there exists little to no truth in man anymore thanks to worthless men, too small and trivial to think beyond the here and now...POWER...PFFFFFT.

This marionete is CHUCKY to the little prince puppet masters and his life is his own....YEAH bub kill my freaking kids.....Guess what? I dont care about climate whoring any more than before.