Obamacare Insurance Premiums By 99% For Men, 62% For Women

Elliot
What happens to people that can't afford insurance?

edit on 26-9-2013 by Elliot because: (no reason given)

You can not be mandated or taxed but pray that your state will expand Medicaid, still Medicaid is not a full health care program just preventative and for emergencies, also pray that your illness is not a long term or that you need surgery right away, because is going to be a wait for approvals, still if you most need emergency surgery you will have it, but then you have to deal with the cost that will be billed to you and the guidelines of the state you live in as how much the state will take over the bill and what will be your resposibility.

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My husband and I are starting to talk about he using the Veterans hospital more as we have a major one with surgical floor in Columbus Ga, and a clinic in our home town military base, while I will be under Tricare humana if our premiums triple as was promised but halted last may, we only got double last October but with another increase to come out before 2014.

reply to post by dawnstar


Sadly if the company have under 40 employees they are exempt from Obamacare mandate, if your state offers Medicaid you could try to qualify for it, or you can try to see if you can get a subsidy.

marg6043
reply to post by St Udio

 

My husband and I are starting to talk about he using the Veterans hospital more as we have a major one with surgical floor in Columbus Ga, and a clinic in our home town military base, while I will be under Tricare humana if our premiums triple as was promised but halted last may, we only got double last October but with another increase to come out before 2014.

Good for you my friend, keep looking at other options, don't allow them to force you to consider.

The “easiest” solution would be to avoid the “wedding tax” entirely by getting divorced while still living together.

Instead of facing an exorbitant premium increase once their combined earnings hits $62,041 if they were to stay married, each cohabiting adult can earn up to $45,960 before Obamacare’s “tax credit”-free premiums kick in. Their annual after-tax savings at age 60 if they shack up and keep their individual earnings between $31,021 and $45,960 will range from $7,650 to over $11,000. The annual savings will slightly increase every year until Medicare kicks in at age 65. That kind of money can buy a lot of gifts for the grandkids.
But the grandkids will also face the prospect of seeing their moms and dads divorce because of Obamacare.

pjmedia.com...
You're doing the best you can to keep you family together in light of Obama doing the best he can in trying to tear America Apart!

reply to post by Pimpintology


When I was in nursing, there was no way I could afford insurance through this type of coverage. The employers have to 'offer' it, but it is up to the employees to buy it. This also limits the insurance company the employees have to choose from as well, if the incentives by the insurance company go only to the top 1% in the company or business, then why worry about what it will cost the employees ?

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In the OP link there is a graph which is interactive you can click on for your state that breaks it down. The numbers currently are for today as they hash out the signing of the deal but it is already in place and those numbers will be going up substantially, this is why the thread was important to get out there. With all the ducks being placed in a row where is the CAP on what they can charge? That is a Conspiracy fact.

heres a good follow up article...


there is a listing of costs by State in the report
see: www.zerohedge.com...






there is also the very late withdrawl of 4 prominent companies from giving their workers the better coverage of the existing healthcare packages...
instead of handing the employees over to 0bamacare (nationalized health=for many / most BUT NOT ALL)

Many employers are going to follow the lead set by IBM, Walgreen, UPS and Home Depot. They will compensate employees for the cost of Obamacare, and pocket the difference. An additional incentive is that for employers (large and small), it reduces/eliminates the overhead and problems of company sponsored insurance plans.

What if Obamacare results in substantial forced 'outsourcing' of health insurance? The CBO estimates are way off the mark, but by how much? What happens if the forced migration over the first few years of Obamacare is 20 million, versus the forecast of only 2m? If this is to be the result, then some will call it a great success. This outcome would move the country much closer to the 'single payer' system that many liberals believe should happen.

But what about those who are forced into Obamacare? What about the promise by Obama that in his 'plan' anyone who now has private insurance, could keep it?



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I do not have answers to how this will play out. I'm comfortable saying (1) the migration from private insurance to Obamacare is going to be much larger than has been estimated, and (2) large groups of folks will get burnt in the process....

my own personal cost would be $333 mo on that linked chart by the CBO (who also tell us there is .001% inflation and hence NO COLAs for the 3rd quarter 2013... when we know good-&-well the CBO gives false data/figures on everything from unemployment reality to the number of reenlistments because 0bama is the CIC & wants the USA to ally with the Jihadists/AQ along with other outlandish propaganda that puts the old Soviet Era Pravda to shame

reply to post by marg6043


Yes but co-pays will go sky high as well. I know people right now that cannot afford their co-pays.

About Half U.S. States Will Expand Medicaid Under Obamacare

With most state legislatures wrapping up their budget discussions, about half of U.S. states have agreed to go along with an expansion of their Medicaid health insurance programs for the poor under the Affordable Care Act, according to a new analysis.

You can expect to see many more states joining in as the economy continues to decline and falter because who can refuse the bribes while most independent states struggle to keep afloat? If the gov has this kind of money to make these 'offers', then what is the issue here? It is not about helping states that are in financial trouble, it is about holding them over a barrel until the y finally concede.

the Medicaid expansion should bring 5 million Americans into the expanded Medicaid coverage next year and eventually up to 10 million more newly insured Americans by 2017, Avalere’s Stento said. Before the Supreme Court ruling, Avalere projected there would be 11 million new Medicaid enrollees in 2014 “with that phasing up to 20 million by 2017 and 21 million by 2019,” Avalere said.

Already, there are about 50 million Americans enrolled in Medicaid health insurance for the poor or affiliated health coverage programs like the State Children’s Health Insurance Programs (SCHIP).

And here we go...

The states agreeing to go along with the Medicaid expansion are taking advantage of a cash infusion of more than $900 billion in federal dollars from 2014 to 2022 under the health law.

www.forbes.com...

The states agreeing to go along with the Medicaid expansion are taking advantage of a cash infusion of more than $900 billion in federal dollars from 2014 to 2022 under the health law.

marg6043
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My husband and I are starting to talk about he using the Veterans hospital more as we have a major one with surgical floor in Columbus Ga, and a clinic in our home town military base,

good... but be on-guard

my replcement primary-care physician at my local clinic...gave me a Hep B primary shot with a 2nd booster shot expected last July... that never happened and after reading up on Hep B immunization being loaded with lots of other 'stuff' i am going to refuse the (now very late) booster dose and the recommendation for Flu & Pneumonia
shots form now on.


i might just be paranoid... but i feel my chest is stuffed with excessive phlegm since after 30 days from that Hep B prevention shot


i also refused invasive procedures like a colonoscomy at the Charleston VA hospital, but did nod yes to a sleep apnia study...note ~Invasive~ no biopsy or other internal stuff... for those instances i will rather trust the commercial doctors & procedures that my son would know in the local area medical community for the last 16 years

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I love zerohedge, from your link:

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The link in the OP is a 404 now, lets try this again...
www.forbes.com... -women/

Nope still 404ed...

Ok here is the link to the interactive state by state maps

What Will Obamacare Cost You?
An interactive guide to understanding the financial impact of the Affordable Care Act.

www.forbes.com...

How can they call it "affordable"? !!!

What a beautiful day, another obamacare thread , it even starts off saying the numbers arent sure yet.

Welcome to the 21st century, healthcare should not be an issue, a healthy population cost less in end.

Xtrozero
Obamacare is increasing my medical costs per year by 300%..... Not joking...

I work for the state.Just got my new insurance brochure.
I was paying $15 copay with a $500 deductible.
Now i will be paying $25 copay and a $1700 deductible.
My premium increased to triple the amount.

Like to see Obama live on $10.59 an hour and afford this.

Domo1
Am I reading some of these replies correctly? Pissed that sick people might be able to go to the doctor and you might have to wait an extra few days? That's low. I have rarely ever had an issue scheduling a doctors appointment within a few hours of my call, and more rarely ever had to wait a full day.

There are a lot of things to be mad about with Obamacare, but treating your neighbors and friends shouldn't be one of them.

Please spare me the moral saint rhetoric.

I don't know you, or my neighbor for the matter - the government is in this financial mess for trying to make sure everyone is taken care of. Wonder how people survived when big bro wasn't sitting beside them....

and how about those increases - are you going to pay for the increases out of your own pocket? This looks like the middle class is yet again going to take the brunt of "spreading the wealth"

Your leaders missed the boat a long time ago. We began our Universal Health Care back in 1946 with the hard work of politician Tommy Douglas in Saskatchewan. This spread to the rest of Canada and has evolved over the years but basic health care is a right to every Canadian regardless of whether they have a job or not. Pre-existing conditions do not deny you of coverage nor does being unemployed. We are all covered, yes our taxes are high and our wait times can be long but we receive care when we need it.

Life Expectancy: Canada - 81.3 US - 78.1
Physician per person: Canada - 2.2 US - 2.4

I think the problem with your health care is the amounts charged by physicians and hospitals. It is outrageous and I don't understand why this has not been capped long ago. In our system doctors are paid by service by the government for a negotiated fee and can't be paid more. The problem with our system is that non-essential services have been slowly de-listed with each negotiation. Vision has been cut back and certain ages are not covered unless they have a 'pre-existing condition such as diabetes. Dental is not covered and should be covered on every plan as so many diseases stem from bad oral health.

It is so sad that people don't realize the benefit of universal coverage if it is done properly. Maybe other countries do it better than we do, but we are thankful to have what we do. I couldn't imagine getting an illness and lose everything I worked for because no company wanted to give me health care. God Bless and hope you find the help you all need.

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Canada - done properly....ummmm, how about NO.

Long wait times, especially if you want to see a specialist. My father became legally blind he had to wait so long to get laser surgery done to combat a side effect of diabetes to his eyes. I also know our "universal" healthcare if more underfunded every year because we can not afford the tens of thousands of people added every each year who don't put into it.

but this isn't the OP but I hate it when I see the Canada healthcare is so great baloney.

Tardacus
Who is going to treat all these newly insured people? wait time for doctor appointments is already long enough now we are going to dump 48 million newly insured people into the healthcare system.
48 million people who probably rarely or never went to a doctor because they couldn`t afford it will now have insurance and be running to the doctor every time they have a little ache or pain.

Are you implying that people who can't get insurance now (for whatever reason) shouldn't be able to get and pay for insurance because we don't have enough doctors?

That's your answer?

How about more doctors, in places that need them.

reply to post by antar


It makes no sense before the government was to provide the funding for the expansion for only 3 years, now they are to fund until 2022?, then where are the savings for the tax payers when it comes to Obamacare? if they are to fund billions on Medicaid.

This is all a joke, Obamacare is going to cost more to the tax payer at the end that all the already entitlements together and will keep growing.

If this the case Obamacare will fail within the first 3 years or less.

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Well my husband and I only get preventive care (in which we take what we want and leave the rest, that includes vaccinations, we do not do those), because we are healthy active adults for now, but we have learned that no doctors can be trusted and neither their big pharma pushing drugs.

And trust me our doctors are big on that, so we no always follow their recommendations. he,he.

Sorry to hear about your experience, actually my husband by doctors choice started to take a triglyceride drug and his mustache started to get bold patches, he,he. So he learned his lesson with the side effects of the crap doctors prescribe, he is now following the natural medicinal way and waiting to see if the bold patches will fill out.

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So, I am a student and work part-time at a restaurant (I have no health insurance). I am supposed to sign up for coverage through Obamacare by March 31st.

What happens if I don't sign up?