Hello George,
I've enjoyed your work through the years and joined ATS just to ask this question.
In my own research I've been looking for links between the above ground science world and the 'black' world with regards to UFO research. I've been
specifically looking into areas regarding advanced propulsion physics people who appear to have feet in both worlds, perhaps acting as liaisons
between them (for whatever reason).
Have you looked into either of these guys??? Alan C. Holt and Marc Millis
The reason I ask is because both of these guys have been involved in research and crossed some interesting paths which may or may not be able to
verify at least part of Bob Lazar's story.
I apologize for the length of the material below but it is just the tip of a bunch of stuff I've found which you might be interested in and it serves
as a good starting point.
Alan C. Holt - NASA - Johnson Spaceflight Center (where he has been based since the 1980s), former head of MUFON's Advanced Propulsion Workshop
(while still working at NASA) and publisher of the following papers:
"TM-80961; JSC-16073 N80-19184 - Field Reseonance Propulsion Concept - National Aeronautics & Space Administration - Washington, DC - August
79"
ntrs.nasa.gov...
Image of the above document in case it is offline:
i.imgur.com...
Field Resonance Propulsion as described by Holt would explain how some UFOs may operate over interstellar distances. The propulsion enables a sort of
teleportation, enabling one to traverse great distances in a short period of time. System would involve interaction between two separate energy
systems: light (laser] and gravitation, according to Gallimore. Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center, Houston, Texas: NASA, Aug. 1979. 10 p. (NASA-TM-80961;
JSC-16073) Paper presented at the AIAA/SAE/ASME Joint Propulsion Conference, 15th, Las Vegas, Nevada, June 18-20, 1979.
Note the similarity to the diagram on Page 7 to the description of the Kenneth Arnold UFO:
Diagram of Field Resonance spacecraft
i.imgur.com...
Kenneth Arnold's UFO
www.ourufosociety.com...
www.ourufosociety.com...
Also of note is that Alan C. Holt is linked to
Douglas Torr who along with Ning Li tried to replicate Russian physicist Eugene Podkletnov's
gravity shielding experiments which Podkletnov conducted at the University of Tampere, Finland
www.wired.com...
www.thelivingmoon.com...
Torr worked at NASA Johnson Center in Houston on work related to Field Propulsion including an experiment using particle accelerators in space on the
shuttle Columbia on the STS-9 mission:
science.ksc.nasa.gov...
NASA Photo ID: S83-45180 File Name: 10061656.jpg
Film Type: 35mm BW Date Taken: 12/02/83
Title: STS-9/Spacelab 1 mission control center activity
Description:
Nabuki Kawashima (left) and Susumu Sasaki of the space experimentation with
particle accelerators (SEPAC) team monitor the status of that experiment's
instrumentation onboard the Spacelab module in the Space shuttle Columbia.
The two are at consoles in the payload operations control center (POCC) on
the second floor of JSC's mission control center (45180); Robert Basedow,
right, and Douglas Torr monitor experiments mounted in the open Columbia
cargo bay's aft end pallet. The two are plotting real time measurements
(45181).
Subject terms:
CONSOLES
FLIGHT CONTROL
GROUND BASED CONTROL
INTEGRATED MISSION CONTROL CENTER
MISSION OPERATIONS
PERSONNEL
Description of STS-9's mission: "Over the course of the mission, seventy-two scientific experiments were carried out, spanning the fields of
atmospheric and plasma physics, astronomy, solar physics, material sciences, technology, life sciences and Earth observations. The Spacelab effort
went so well that the mission was extended an additional day to 10 days, making it the longest-duration shuttle flight at that time."
So what connects that mission to Alan C. Holt?
Well,
Alan C. Holt, Eric W. Davis (from Robert Bigelow's NIDS) and
Hal Putoff published another paper on manufacturing materials
in space for breakthrough propulsion physics:
"AIAA-99-2143 Space Testing of Electromagnetically Sensitive Materials for Breakthrough Propulsion Physics"
Alan C. Holt, Senior Member, NASA Johnson Space Center, Houston, TX -
Eric W. Davis, Ph.D. National Institute for Discovery Science, Las
Vegas, NV -
Hal Puthoff, Ph.D. Institute for Advanced Studies, Austin, TX"
www.earthtech.org...
What does this have to do with Bob Lazar?
Bob Lazar stated the materials in the ET craft he examined could only be produced in space so the above research looks as though it was investigating
how to do just that with an eye towards breakthrough propulsion physics.
Douglas Torr was part of NASA's Breakthrough Propulsion Physics program. Torr and Holt are linked in two key ways:
Douglas Torr from NASA's Breakthrough Propulsion Physics program monitored a space mission at mission control devoted in part to material sciences. In
1999 Alan C Holt who wrote the 1979 Field Propulsion paper wrote the other one on Space Testing Electromagnetically Sensitive materials for
Breakthrough Propulsion Physics.
1. Torr was at Houston during Holts time there and Holt wrote a paper in 1999 for Torr's program
2. Torr monitored an experiment in 1983 at mission control devoted to the work in the 1999 paper
Marc Millis who headed up NASA's Breakthrough Propulsion Physics program and runs an outfit called "Tau Zero" regularly visits Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base and was referred to in this paper:
"AFIT/GA/ENY/12-M06 -Gravitational Lens Deep Space Probe Design:" Berkley R. Davis, B.S. Second Lieutenant, USAF - Approved: Timothy Lawrence,
Col, USAF (Chairman) - Carl Hartsfield, Lt Col, USAF (Member) -
Marc G. Millis (Member)
www.dtic.mil...
Image files of the above document in case it is offline:
pdf2jpg.net...
Also as mentioned earlier, Alan C. Holt was active in NICAP/MUFON back in the late 70s/early 80s:
www.slideshare.net...
www.slideshare.net...
www.anomalies.net...
vixra.org...
goo.gl...
Again, I apologize for the length of this question/lead but I was wondering if you ever heard of any of this or might be interested in pursuing the
"grey world"?
You're about one of the few investigative journalists who 1) still investigates and would 2) be interested in any of this.
edit on 19-9-2013 by
JadeStar because: (no reason given)