Active Shooter at Washington Navy Yard, Reports of Multiple People Shot

The FBI has an image of the suspect taken in 2011, alongside the current image.
www.fbi.gov...

Do these look like the same guy?
Maybe it is just me, but they seem to be different in some ways.

BlueAjah
The FBI has an image of the suspect taken in 2011, alongside the current image.
www.fbi.gov...

Do these look like the same guy?
Maybe it is just me, but they seem to be different in some ways.

Id have to agree, that although there are some similarities there are a few differences.
Like the height to width ratio of the face, the skin tone, the eye shape.

BlueAjah
The FBI has an image of the suspect taken in 2011, alongside the current image.
www.fbi.gov...

Do these look like the same guy?
Maybe it is just me, but they seem to be different in some ways.

Interesting, but in my rookie photo analysis opinion it's the same dude. Different cameras, background, time, angle, etc.

BlueAjah
The FBI has an image of the suspect taken in 2011, alongside the current image.
www.fbi.gov...

Do these look like the same guy?
Maybe it is just me, but they seem to be different in some ways.

It looks like the same guy to me. It's hard because many government organizations, especially the military, have strict size requirements for ID photographs. More often than not, these dimensions do not match those of the base image generated by the camera being used. Because of this, they stretch the image to make it fit the required dimensions, resulting a a distorted and difficult to recognize image, therefore defeating the purpose of an ID photo through pure bureaucracy.

I've had pictures of myself within days, wearing the same clothes, that hardly looked similar due to lighting differences and image stretching.

The image on the right is probably closer to what he really looks like. The image on the left has extra bright lighting shining straight at his face, and has been squished vertically, but if you look for key features it appears to be the same person.

BlueAjah
The FBI has an image of the suspect taken in 2011, alongside the current image.
www.fbi.gov...

Do these look like the same guy?
Maybe it is just me, but they seem to be different in some ways.

Yes they look like the same guy. The one taken in 2011 however, he looks happy, sane, and in his right mind. The second pic, his eyes look vacant, and he lost the happy look.

Maybe the other pic is older and the happy pic is his insanity, but he just looks more alive and real in the 2011 pic.

Something is just not right with the pic on the right.

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Yep they are different , one shot has a wider space between the eye's than the other and one shot has a broader nose than the other. Now they could be of the same person , but the first shot has been stretched or the second shot has had the width reduced. Or they could be of totally different people.

It is said that the ears are the things to look at , they are unique to everyone so some side shots of the would be interesting.

reply to post by AlliumIslelily


Thanks! That makes sense.

I tried to alter the lighting and dimensions a bit to make it easier to compare. I'm nowhere near an expert though, this is totally amateur work. Does this change your opinion though? I think it's still hard to say. It would be cool if we had someone with experience in photo analysis.

AlliumIslelily

BlueAjah
The FBI has an image of the suspect taken in 2011, alongside the current image.
www.fbi.gov...

Do these look like the same guy?
Maybe it is just me, but they seem to be different in some ways.

It looks like the same guy to me. It's hard because many government organizations, especially the military, have strict size requirements for ID photographs. More often than not, these dimensions do not match those of the base image generated by the camera being used. Because of this, they stretch the image to make it fit the required dimensions, resulting a a distorted and difficult to recognize image, therefore defeating the purpose of an ID photo through pure bureaucracy.

I've had pictures of myself within days, wearing the same clothes, that hardly looked similar due to lighting differences and image stretching.

The image on the right is probably closer to what he really looks like. The image on the left has extra bright lighting shining straight at his face, and has been squished vertically, but if you look for key features it appears to be the same person.

Id have to agree, it does looked stretched along the horizontal. The ears are practically identical.

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I love it when the CORRECT information is given on ATS.

Thank You Alliumslelily.

reply to post by Libertygal


He looks like he has been beaten up mentally and physically. Was going to draw attention to that earlier today. Nose looks broken.

OneManArmy

AlliumIslelily

BlueAjah
The FBI has an image of the suspect taken in 2011, alongside the current image.
www.fbi.gov...

Do these look like the same guy?
Maybe it is just me, but they seem to be different in some ways.

It looks like the same guy to me. It's hard because many government organizations, especially the military, have strict size requirements for ID photographs. More often than not, these dimensions do not match those of the base image generated by the camera being used. Because of this, they stretch the image to make it fit the required dimensions, resulting a a distorted and difficult to recognize image, therefore defeating the purpose of an ID photo through pure bureaucracy.

I've had pictures of myself within days, wearing the same clothes, that hardly looked similar due to lighting differences and image stretching.

The image on the right is probably closer to what he really looks like. The image on the left has extra bright lighting shining straight at his face, and has been squished vertically, but if you look for key features it appears to be the same person.

Id have to agree, it does looked stretched along the horizontal. The ears are practically identical.

I agree, the ears are pretty spot on. I think it's the same guy. Just imagine how his face would change if he stopped smiling in the 2011 pic; they'd match even better.

Freudian slip "this invasion is still active"

I love how the lady she is replaced with quickly begins talking about misinformation

reply to post by BlueAjah


Yeah, its hard to tell. They don't quite look like the same two people. Pictures can be tricky though. Sometimes they turn out good and others are terrible...like a driver's license pic.

Officials during CNN press conference saying they are now unsure if there was more than 1 shooter.

Pic on right? Just got a new job and having ID photo taken.

Pic on left? Just got arrested.

The difference in expressions is not mysterious.

One is the mug shot from his 2010 arrest, the other his Navy ID.

Indigo5

Pic on right? Just got a new job and having ID photo taken.

Pic on left? Just got arrested.

The difference in expressions is not mysterious.

One is the mug shot from his 2010 arrest, the other his Navy ID.

Haha, at least I can agree with you before I go to bed.

reply to post by yourmaker


can you clarify what you are talking about? Who is she? I suppose a newscaster? (Funny news caster, spell caster)

Been off making dinner for family, so may have missed the discussion.

"Details won't be released for some time"


"Can't comment on if there was a 2nd shooter"


"Multiple videos are being reviewed, if we are allowed to release them, we will"


-DC Police during press conference.




"Still trying to identify victims"

D.C. Mayor.

capone1
Officials during CNN press conference saying they are now unsure if there was more than 1 shooter.

As best I can tell from the confusion...

The multi-shooter confusion comes from (A) Witnesses unsure what they saw and (B) A Naval center where military carrying side-arms isn't unusual. I heard one official say that they reviewed security footage and identified two others for "questioning"...So imagine someone carrying a sidearm, how many of the thousand+ folks were armed at a Naval center? and all hell breaks out and people shout about a "shooter"...Some people with a side-arm are going to draw their weapon..and not everyone will know who is the good or bad guy, they just run.

That's why when they found one of the other "suspects" they excluded him, he was just an officer who had a sidearm with him when everything happened and likely drew the gun as he retreated with the crowd.

Just my sense from news reports. One shooter plus confusion, but the FBI etc. has to treat it like multiple shooters until they are 100% sure otherwise.