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Guyfriday
Sorry, but after lurking in the shadows of ATS I have to post something on this;
The book doesn't exist (as many have said), but the idea of a book like this could exist. Please let me explain:
The idea of finding a "Lost Book of Wisdom" out in the desert is very possible. Many nomatic tribes in the Arabian Desert hide books that have been past down for 100s of years within a clan. Some of these books pre-date the rise of Islam in Arabia (so yes they are very old books out in the desert)
Due to the nature of these little known religons (at the time), a person who came across one of these books may have misunderstood the contents of what they have found.
While the idea of using a recurring mystery book wasn't exclusive to Lovecraft (look up "The King in Yellow") His short stories seem to have hit a nerve better than any other writer has.
I think thats the biggest mystery about it is, "Why does this one non-book affect so many people the way it does?"
Thank you for reading.
***A NOTE OF DISCLOSURE***
***END OF DISCLOSURE***
Guyfriday
I did find evidence (as in historical notes and stories) that a book like the Necronomicon does exists, but not in the way it's portrayed in Lovecrafts stories. Out in the Desserts of Africa many tribes bury books that make up the history and power of their tribes. These books contain everything from religious tomes to scrolls on mathematic treaties.
Kantzveldt
reply to post by Guyfriday
Yes i'm sure you have a point, the tales of the Book whilst not true at face value might give indication of traditions were elements of the old Babylon corpus as translated into Semitic script may have surfaced.
abeverage
The Simon Grimoire is a toy representing a real book of which only a very scant few copies exist both purposefully and intentionally. One does not just hand out the keys to the castle to just any knave who passes by.
Painterz
reply to post by abeverage
So do you think Giger had all of that in mind when he was creating his stuff?
Because he unquestionably succeeds I think, viewing Giger's art does produce a very odd internal resonance. The sort of thing you don't often experience, even in the artwork of the grotesque.
KilgoreTrout
abeverage
The Simon Grimoire is a toy representing a real book of which only a very scant few copies exist both purposefully and intentionally. One does not just hand out the keys to the castle to just any knave who passes by.
Without agreeing to the existence of such a book, as described, if one takes the trouble to record such information, it is likely that they have done so for it's preservation. In which case, one would take the precautions necessary not only to protect the information from those uninitiated, but also to ensure that it was available for future reference by those with the understanding required. For example, for modern comparison, R Gordon Wasson's Mushrooms, Russia and History. Wasson only had 512 copies printed, a few for friends, and one for each of the major libraries he deemed worthy to carry it. He did not consider that it was suitable for the mindless masses who would abuse the knowledge for recreational purposes. (It can now be read online, though strictly speaking, that is in violation of Wasson's instructions.)
It is possible, that like many Ancient texts, it could only have survived as a reference in another later work. It is also possible that if a copy were to emerge that it may unrecognisable due to the numerous and wonderful flights of imagination that have filled the gaps during the interim.
abeverage
I most certainly do believe that he knew exactly what he was creating and its effect.
Do not think for a moment that Ridley Scott didn't know exactly what he was getting in hiring him for Alien! Ridley also does this in the medium of film for the same visceral and primitive reasons! There is a almost a psychological violation a mental molestation if you will. While I wouldn't call it rape, because we often subject ourselves to it we are willing participants so it borders. Alien itself is all about violation of several different natures including that of humanity with Ash a synthetic. Themes of blood and penetration along with explosive releases (exploding chests to flamethrowers) follow my original opinion of Giger's sexual frustrated work, and bury themselves deep in your subconscious.
edit on 13-9-2013 by abeverage because: (no reason given)
Girra, burn the warlock and the witch!
Girra, fry the warlock and the witch!
Girra, incinerate them!
Girra, fry them!
Girra, get them!
Girra, devour away!
Girra, take them away!
On this Plateau, in what is now Tibet, awful things lived, and
: from this Plateau awful things have periodically come to
: plague mankind. The early journalist Howard Phillips
: Lovecraft has written about the Plateau of Leng and its
: extension the Plateau of Tsang, and of the awful Tcho-Tcho
: dwarfs.
: One of the most powerful of these agents has been the group
: known as the “Nine Unknown.†Under that name they
: came to the attention of modern readers courtesy of the
: work of the journalist Talbot Mundy , but the truth is
: that they existed before their battles with James Schuyler
: Grim and survived his passing.
: The Nine Unknown is an organization of evil lamas given
: unnatural powers and greatly advanced science by the Old
: Ones. The Nine Unknown use these powers to further the
: worship of the Old Ones and to spread misery and chaos
: across the world. Some information about them is already
: known, but much has only recently been revealed.
: Unlike Yue-Laou, they have not hid in the Plateau of Leng and
: had little contact with the outside world; the Nine Unknown
: have been active on the part of the forces they represent,
: and have bases and agents around the world.
: The Nine suffer many defeats, but they always survive, only
: their agents and lesser forces being destroyed. The Nine
: seem to believe that the Old Ones they worship will
: eventually return to rule the Earth, and that patience and
: endurance will see them through.
Guyfriday
The books themselves do indeed contain power, but it is the power of knowledge and not the power of the occult.
He becomes more than just a Demon, increasing his magical potential because of the computational powers of his computer virus!
there are actually three Gods of fire involved within it just for good measure, Girra, Nuska and Gibil, the latter of whom not much is known.