Syria welcomes Russia's offer to put its chemical weapons under intl control

Originally posted by ColCurious
reply to post by Senduko

 

WOW! Genius move!!

I bet Kerry is heartbroken that he accidentally gave Assad a way out.

Mr. Obama, I think it is time to pass on your Nobel Prize to Putin... you just got schooled in the matter of peacekeeping. By PUTIN!

Unbelievable!

Putin hasn't done anything here. Russia would look very weak to her friends if she didn't step up to the plate here with something. Very predictable really. Besides do you think Russia wants the US sniffing around its stockpile of weapons in Syria?

I am not saying Assad did order the attack, but even if he decides to put the control of his weapons in someone elses hands. It does not simply forgive the damage done by the initial attack. Neither side seems to have irrefutable intel on who carried out the attack though. So a strike is a pointless outcome from the United States either way.

To say he is putting Obama in a corner is false. The initial use of chemical weapons still happened. Whatever side used it.

All real political and such but Assad simply will not do it - so no change to the situation

Originally posted by camaro68ss
This is checkmate for Obama. Any act of war towards syria WILL BE A WAR CRIME NOW.

Obama and Co are running out of false flags.

John Scary is probably wringing his hands, trying to figure out what to do now.

Where are all of those pre-recorded messages we were supposed to see from Obama today?

Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Unless Assad steps down, this deal is NULL!

It's "too late". He used the weapons already.

IF I shoot someone, they die and I tell cops "Here, I'll give the gun to you and won't kill again".

How would that go over?

The US used Depleted Uranium in Iraq a far worse type of weaponry than Sarin. Nor do we really know if Assad used Sarin or if it was a false flag by the west. Looking at the false reasoning behind the last two wars I think I would side on this being a false flag attack.

A good move on behalf of the Russians....

reply to post by tommyjo


I read both your articles and the homeland security one is specific to note they found empty artillery shells, "sulphur mustard" stored seperately and nothing loaded or ready to use as a weapon? They also refused to comment on how much of either the shells or the chemical they found, while repeating, nothing was loaded or usable in the form they found it?

I hadn't seen those stories and they really piss me off. Another way to justify the murder of Gadaffi. I wouldn't have minded seeing him get it back when he deserved it, either. It was a day of some celebration, as I do recall, following the Reagan strike on his personal compound. In anything remotely like recent history though??

Well..... Gadaffi GAVE UP.... 100% BY CHOICE...everything he had in 2003. That included a Nuclear program which Western experts described as 'considerably more advanced than anyone suspected". He did that to get a clean slate to function as a viable nation again.

I predict, given how he was raped and murdered in the street like a common criminal...by the people WE supported to do it (sound familiar??) No one and NO leader will ever willingly give up those weapons again, anywhere in the world. If he'd still had them? He likely would be alive today....and I am sure that lesson isn't lost on anyone. North Korea shows how true that is.

The Obama administration just lost all credibility.(as if it had much to begin with)

With Kerry back peddling his remark, to S. Rice calling for regime change rather than embracing the Syrian foreign ministers "yes" to Putin's offer to take control of Syria's chemical weapons stocks. Meanwhile no one on main street with two cells to rub together is in support of any military action by the US in Syria.

And still this administration won't back down and cool off.

Why?

reply to post by tommyjo

So the U.S. admin. expects the world to trust them on their alleged intelligence/evidence... but a little trust in international control/oversight over the destruction of Syrias chemical weapons is to much for the U.S.?
They'd rather set the world on fire?
Maybe, but this would really make the U.S. look bad.

reply to post by ColCurious


The game plan was laid out by Gen Clarke almost 10yrs ago. TPTB had a hit-list of countries they were going to crash and Syria was on that list (along with Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Lebanon..). It doesn't matter that Putin's team offered-up the international control of Assad's chem weapons as an alternative. Team Putin has a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. They have a multi-billion dollar natural gas virtual monopoly in the Eurozone. He doesn't want any gas pipeline through Syria wheezing his juice.

This move will complicate things for TPTB. Bu don't be fooled. They have no intention of allowing their plans to be thwarted. RT is reporting that they have learned from 'multiple sources' that rebels are planning a chemical weapons launch against Israel. Keep in mind, there have been several, increasingly serious, chemical weapons 'incidents' leading up to the August 21st event. They keep upping the ante to get things to 'happen'. Team Putin has thrown a spanner into the plans of TPTB so they'll need to up the ante yet again to get their way. And make no mistake, they WILL get their way.

reply to post by Logarock

Logarock
Putin hasn't done anything here. [...] Very predictable really.

Thus all the astonishment throughout the breaking news of various media outlets...

reply to post by jtma508

jtma508
[...]Team Putin has thrown a spanner into the plans of TPTB so they'll need to up the ante yet again to get their way. And make no mistake, they WILL get their way.

Well, I guess this remains to be seen.
I still believe in U.S. Americans to be capable of great things if/when the need really arises.

The UN is now getting involved:

(Reuters) - In a bid to help the U.N. Security Council overcome its "embarrassing paralysis," the U.N. chief said on Monday he may ask the council to demand that Syria move its chemical arms stocks to Syrian sites where they can be safely stored and destroyed.

www.reuters.com...

Even if Kerry was only half serious, this could give Obama a way out, save face and defuse the situation. It could work.

I'm not sure if the Obama administration will back down now. How can you be sure all of these weapons are destroyed? Although even with air-strikes, you couldn't be sure you got them all.

reply to post by Senduko


Probably the most important part of that headline is

under INTERNATIONAL CONTROL.

.

THAT is the goal. . . . the OVERT GLOBAL GOVERNMENT, one world NWO government of the tyrannical literally satanic global oligarchy.

THAT'S THE GOAL!

All else are supplemental goals to that one.

They long ago crafted a list of scenarios which would force the planet and the populace into . . . wellllll . . .

a cattle chute . . . toward total global tyrannical !CONTROL! by the oligarchy.

Syria is but another such . . . closer than ever to the total END GAME . . .

This video has a list of their plans and mechanisms, evils . . .

Syria is merely the most coercive, dramatic these last several months.

They are reigning in all the regimes of any interest whatsoever which do not kowtow totally to their demands. And, they are setting some up for utter destruction in the service of their ultimate goals.

The USA appears to be such a target . . . of those birthed here and in Europe.

What evil traitors they are.

And, I think it will end up being used as a major trigger to WW3.

Evidently they are backing away a BIT from that AT THE MOMENT.

We shall see. It's not October, yet.

reply to post by CALGARIAN


Assad didn't do it. if you still don't know this then shame on you

Even if Assad gives his chemical weapons to Russia. The rebels will get another chemical package from the Saudi's and chemical bomb another city which will be blamed on Assad again. It's a lose lose for Assad because everybody ( the sheeple ) believes what the media tells them

Wrabbit2000
reply to post by tommyjo

 

I read both your articles and the homeland security one is specific to note they found empty artillery shells, "sulphur mustard" stored seperately and nothing loaded or ready to use as a weapon? They also refused to comment on how much of either the shells or the chemical they found, while repeating, nothing was loaded or usable in the form they found it?

But still retained and not declared as specified by the OPCW. In regards to Syria the Syrians could still play the game and only offer a token of their capability. The Syrians are never going to allow unrestricted access and an intrusive inspection regime. They still won't allow full and unrestricted access to the IAEA in regards to the site that the Israelis struck in 2007.

www.iaea.org...

reply to post by ColCurious


And with good cause. The Syrians still aren't playing ball with the IAEA since 2007. Why if they have nothing to hide won't they allow inspectors to make a full and detailed search of the site? They could do the same in regards to a hidden chemical stockpile and declare any site too military sensitive as they have done with Dair Alzour and three other locations. Why won't they allow the IAEA to inspect underneath the new building now on top of the destroyed building?

www.iaea.org...

reply to post by tommyjo


Okay, so your point is that Assad may lie and not fully disarm. That's a decent point.

I'd note, Obama is not a maybe. He IS lying personally and thru his people. His worthless UN Ambassador is quoted directly to say this may be illegal but still needed. HUH??? If rule of law isn't the point, what authority do they think they have? A note from someone making it okay?

I'll support a strike on Syria if a future President makes a case. I have zero confidence in this one. After Kerry and the rest today? That carries to all of them.

They can't WAIT to go kill people. I don't see Assad almost drooling on himself over the prospect. At this moment?

I believe Assad OVER Obama. He has a better track record on honesty.

......And I can never find words to express how deeply hurt this citizen is to say that as truth. I never...ever...thought the day would come.

The enemy is at 1600 Penn Ave, NOT Damascus. Impeachment is OUR weapon. For our sake and national survival, it's past time we use it. We have the Mad Hatter running the store!

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Keep in mind, then President Nixon told David Frost on the record that 'it's not illegal if The President does it.'

Just sayin...

Now lets see if Putin can also end the Syrian war with this very diplomacy. Diplomacy is more difficult than war and only a true leader can use this over war. You noticed I didn't say Obama? I don't think he even knows the definition of the word the way he is ready to jump into war first.

You do know that there have been 100,000 deaths so far in Syria. So why is it that the other 98,600 deaths are not as important? But all of a sudden 1400 are killed by chemical weapons and NOW those deaths are important? Death is death no matter the method. Perhaps the UN should have gotten involved before they even reached 1000 deaths. And then asked the Syrian people what THEY wanted.