Misogyny - a Product of Mixed Signals for Men

Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by suz62

 

Nasty as in lesions and zits all over their bodies.

Seriously? Who would get turned on by that?

reply to post by suz62


I dont know but like i said, there are nasty women in porn. I think the other poster was insenuating that by nasty i meant fat.

Everyone is entitled to a good, fulfilling sex life. As far as I am concerned, it is a basic human right. We all know this on some level, and when we fail to get what we feel entitled to, we go sour. This is just as true of women as it is of men.

But in the case of men, until very recently, you were guaranteed an outlet via marriage. Marriage was an avenue open to almost everyone. Privileged males took advantage of their position to indulge in promiscuity (and this is still the case), but poor or wealthy, back in the day, most every man had someone who was nominally willing, or at least obligated to be penetrated.

This is very much not the case today. One of the chief upshots of the equality process is that women are now free to do their own selection. We are no longer obligated socially or economically to be penetrated, except where we choose to be.

This leaves a lot of men partnerless by dint of their personality flaws, lack of social graces, or (rarely) physical appearance. Rather than face this reality squarely and work on their flaws, it is much easier to blame the women who do not select them.

A satisfying sex life doesn't necessarily require more than one person. If masturbation were legitimized as the healthful, dignified outlet that it is, maybe we wouldn't see the market flooded with hate-on-the-ladies porn.

A final word on porn, women, and the gender rift:

1. Amateur porn often includes emotional content, foreplay, and genuine female arousal. Think of it as a homecooked meal as opposed to the fast food slop served up by the big players.

2. Women respond to porn just as much as men do, but they underreport or lie about their responses.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

reply to post by kimish




The 'other poster'? I presume you meant me?

Your post said "with nasty,or obese women which gives the impression

that 'nasty' is one type and 'obese' a second type?


Or did you mean nasty and obese?

suz62
Women get mixed signals too. Look at porn.

It screams "I prefer a whore", but then men really want a virgin to marry.

Make up your mind. Do you like your women trashy or not? If we dress nicely we're frigid. If we dress provocatively we're whores.

Tell us what you really want and let's have an end to the name-calling.

Seems like you may have been called a whore once or twice for the clothes you wear......

Trust me, we like whores every now and then... but that isn't someone we would marry or take home to meet our mothers and fathers.

reply to post by Eidolon23





Very well said!

Your point "most every man had someone who was nominally willing, or at least

obliged to be penetrated"... Hit the nail squarely on the head no need to

invest emotion or time in foreplay.


Your statement "amateur porn includes emotional content, foreplay and female

arousal" spot on Films such as :-

# Pretty Woman

# 91/2 Weeks

# Ghost

# An Officer and a Gentleman and so on are not referred to as a 'woman's movies

for nothing


I would hazard a guess that most men who stay partner less is because they are not

prepared to invest the time and emotion required for good sex they would

rather just have a quick s***

reply to post by eletheia


This nails it.

20 years on, and the sparks fly bigger and better than ever before. I swear if it don't stop getting better, one of us may die from it.

My wife and I have talked about how a "romance novel" is the same as Penthouse. It is porn geared for a different audience. ONe that is more in tune with emotion vs one that is a visual beast.

I think men and women are both idiots of different natures, I have never met a woman who really had that many problems in this department, and men do not either. The rest just seems to be what it always was about merely the things and games which get people off, its all just part of the mating rituals which people do the outcomes will be the same as it always has been, only the way people go about it is different and subject to change.

In all, one deserves the other. So ya, what the ever people, I have never seen so many people who never really had any real problems complain and make up # over absolutely nothing, for women especially as its practically geared to them it is like throwing a rock at the ground and missing. I would of never believed it, that is till i saw it with my own eyes over and over and over. And for dudes, ah that crap is just not worth it, and it will just take some time for that to sink into there heads as do to nature and millions of years of evolution you kind of have no choice but to go along with such crap. But in all there actually is no problems its just people being people, they practically gravitate toward such things because ultimately and despite what they say to themselfs or others, and despite popular believe that is what they want and even need. There is nothing else, everything else is just justifications on that by any and all ways possible.

The whole thing is a complete waste of time and energy its practically written in stone what will come of it and what will happen. Its all just make believe and play pretend, fishing in a way, in a extremely backwards and meaningless way. Misogyny and Misandry is just the mating instinct at play, you cant have love without hate, and you cant have two people in close quarters for long periods without issues coming to the front. It is a normal thing taken way out of context to suite purposes by both males and females. But again the outcomes seem to be set in stone, its like a bad play in motion you know what people are going to do, and with whom, and why, it just needs to go through its motions. And for some that may ultimately be surprising but only because they are not honest with themselfs, for the rest there just following the strings they set for themselfs. Like marionettes the same ol thing creep up over and over again, to which they act surprised when it does. However that, and everything else it's all just part of the play they set themselfs.

bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by eletheia

 

This nails it.

20 years on, and the sparks fly bigger and better than ever before. I swear if it don't stop getting better, one of us may die from it.

My wife and I have talked about how a "romance novel" is the same as Penthouse. It is porn geared for a different audience. ONe that is more in tune with emotion vs one that is a visual beast.

As I understand your post .... You and your wife have got it!! Congratulations!

And I think you're right in your analogy between 'romance novel' and 'Penthouse' being geared

to a different audience (different biology) 'Gently wrapped up for the female psyche?' and

'raw testosterone based masculinity?'......different strokes for different folks eh?


I always liken 'sex' to driving a car ... *You have the manual, *you know where all the buttons

are, *you know what all the buttons are for - but you need the experience and the feel of the car

to 'have a smooth drive'