Super Missile Cruiser "Moskva" with Destroyers And Frigates heads for Syria

Originally posted by dashen
If Obama and Putin want to fight so freaking bad let them settle it in the ring. SIck murderous bastards

Why does everyone keep leaving Israel out of this, they have been pushing for war on Syria and Irand for the past 10 years. Now all of a sudden Israel and their treasonous Lobby (AIPAC) goes quiet so they can look like the VICTIMS when they get what they wanted all along..WAR !!

Here`s a prediction for ya!!

US will attack Syria, a false flag attack on Israel will be blamed on Iran, Israel goes to war with Iran.

Game Over

Wonder if the cruiser will make it in time, as it will take 10 days to get there.
With Obama waiting for approval which he could get early next week, there would be a 5 day period before the cruiser arrives.

Nonetheless, Putin is playing this very wise from his part. He's played the good guys while in the background showing its muscles.

Originally posted by dashen
If Obama and Putin want to fight so freaking bad let them settle it in the ring.

You mean like this?

NSA, Benghazi, crash of the dollar and half another dozen problems for the admin have sure been pushed out of the lime light....Hummm maybe this was the false flag everyone was predicting to make everyone take their eye off the other scandals? So far it has worked like a charm, No?

With all the posturing and moving military assets to the region, let us hope a truly monstrous accident does not start something the whole world will regret. The more they open their mouths the deeper they dig their holes as far as not losing face if the issue is not pressed. A 'back down' can become very problematic for the players prestige.....What a total messed up operation from the get go...........!!!

reply to post by Senduko

Imagine if WW3 would break out now or in 10 years. How quick our world would change. One world government, once currency.

How we get to a one world currency will very much determine how this currency operates. If we get there through the fear and fog of war then it will be a single minded, authoritarian based system. If we get to a one world currency through research, debate, negotiation and review then it will be a community minded system, more directed towards making the most of the human potential.

Russia upgrading the level of regional force does give congress something to think about before they vote.

reply to post by johncarter

The more I think about it, the more I think irrespective of the risk of WW3, it would be good for America to loose it's fleet in the Med. It would be a terrible waste of life but we need the Government to realize they ain't the moral compass of the world or the world police. They can't be the bully anymore.

Explore and produce oil and gas at home and get out of the Middle East.

reply to post by tracehd1
I guess President Obama is not listening to his wife's anti-bullying campaign. I mean that is what we have going on is a show of might in hopes to be the ruler of the schoolyard. Bullying tactics on a grand scale.

reply to post by evc1shop

I believe this deployment IS to keep Israel in check and to protect Iran. This is not going to be short and sweet like all the teevee noise is claiming. I think this is IT. This is the start of the Iran war. There is a hell of a lot of fire power sitting out there in the Mediterranean, I don't think it is parked there for lobbing a few cruise missiles into Damascus.

That is my buck-fifty

reply to post by GrantedBail


And the gulf. Yes, this is what I think too, Syria is just a means to draw-in Iran, i could be wrong but I'm expecting this to get ugly fast.
fingers crossed.

It's only a matter of time before it hits the fan. Now you have two fleets waiting.
I love my country: but its about time someone said its time to stop the war machine. My personal wish is have our boys turn our crap around and come back and worry about our own waters.
But sadly this isn't the case. Obama probably expected the world to just hop on board with killing thousands because hundreds were killed. Now the issue is ego. I believe Kerry stated to Paul that the president planned to move forward no matter the vote. I don't see him
Backing down. Only thing we can hope for is a stand down from those in charge of the ships. This is all senseless. The death toll from one of these ships being sunk is far greater than what this whole crap started about. I'm not a math wiz but this shizz don't make sense!

Originally posted by Skorpy
reply to post by Senduko

 

Mankind is a warlike race, even under a one world rule, we would still be at war but this time it would be against the haves and have nots. The rich and the poor. Humans evolve through conflict. Through this conflict breeds evil leaders.

How long would it take man kind to get past all the re-education camps and the thought police before we reached the stars?

It depends on if we are living under the one world kingdom of mankind, or the Kingdom of God on Earth.

Your scenario leaves out the one being in total control of where we are in time and for a great purpose.

You did get the re-education part correct, all mankind will have to learn to think differently then in this present age. Mankind by nature is warlike, therefore left alone as in this present age begets war. But by design we were created to "think differently" (repent) and have the potential to overcome our carnal nature through the renewing of the mind according to the ways of God. That way of life is what will be taught in every building and in every home once the end of this age comes.

God Bless,

reply to post by RocksFromSpace

Why does everyone keep leaving Israel out of this

Because Obama seems determined to.

reply to post by 727Sky


no--- this is real.... the only thing false is the false flag gas attack and finger pointing at Syrian Army by all the Shadow Government hawks and the 0bama cadre of Muslim leadership in the regime....

Congress will show its colors after 9 September '13


i await the counter threat by Putin... If the USA launches an illegal air strike on Syria then 1 USA Cruise Missile Ship will be destroyed... if the bombing escalates then all USA Carriers and war ships are active targets until the USA ceases hostilities

(there are something over 30-50,000 Russians and family members still stuck in Syria.).. plus the Russian seaport that may have the international protection like an Embassy does



i cite a verse in Daniel 11 that may be relevent about this cruise missile crisis being launched from ships in the Mediterranian

...for the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

sounds like 0bama breaks off the Syrian strike because of the Russian showdown at sea... and 0bama has dark meetings with the intel, Mossad of the Zionists and his dark circle of advisors & administration Muslims

reply to post by St Udio


He is in Sweden now, and the dignitaries there are prancing around him like enchanted teens on a rock concert, stumbling over each other, trying to kiss his ass or ring of allegiance.

Man, the more I see of this guy, the more he reminds me of antichrist. Perhaps Putin has seen that and told him here, but no further.

Well isn't she pretty. I learned something I was not previously aware of. Putin got quite upset over the situation in Libya when she was the target of the American Govt.s "Love" Some of the quotes from Putin included. "The coalition said its intention was not to kill Gaddafi" "Why are they continually bombing the palace" and finally "Who gave NATO the right to kill Gaddafi"

Looking at this vessel now steaming into a standoff with the US Navy I cannot help but wonder if Putin is saying "Enough is enough" showing that he's not going to yet again be played for the fool believing that the US will stand by its word in saying it does not intend to kill Bashar and stand by as yet another middle eastern leader falls to the sword of Americas "Love"

I look at this vessel and her sizeable entourage and I see a very capable and highly motivated force and it makes me shudder at just what our servant Govt. may be pulling us into (kicking and screaming). And I finally feel fear. Fear that all any of us can hope is that cooler heads prevail , but with very little hope that they will.

the slava class cruiser was designed in the 60's and the moskva was commissioned in 79, over hauled in 98. only three of this class were built. she really is not a"super" ship. you see all those missile tubes? they have no reload capacity. the soviet style of warfare was the steam roll strategy. throw every thing at your enemy in the first round and hope that it knocks them out. yes, she is deadly, but not any more deadly than any other warship.

as to how i know this. when i first enlisted in the navy back n 86, i was going to be an intelligence specialist. i was trained to recognize all soviet warships, their weapons and ranges, and their radars and their ranges.

reply to post by WWJFKD


Well spoken. And you should rightfully feel fear. The fire power this vessel possesses, is close to unbelievable, and the defense parameters around it are also not a walk in the park. You can be sure if it ever comes to a confrontation with our boys on Nimitz or Truman, Moskva will not go down alone and not easy. The new supersonic anti ship missiles she has, can reach an incredible mach 9 at full max before impact.

That is nine times the speed of sound. Nothing can stop a missile that fast and I don´t care how much "whoa, we are best in the world", the local rednecks will tell you.

Such a battle at sea will be devestating and send shock waves around the globe. Trust me on that one. Putin knows this of course and knows Obama dare not cross that line. and thus he just parks his fleet right outside the Syrian coast and shows our boys he means business this time and is tired of the American War hegemony.

Russia is an ally of Syria and Russia has stated that a military strike without UN SC agreement is violation of the UN Charter Chapter VII

The US strike would be considered an act of war on a Sovereign country.

Anyway that G8 summit will be a tense one.

With Obama and Putin at each others throat