My name is Tom Carey, and I have spent the past 22 years researching the Roswell incident. Ask me an

Hi Tom hope you are finding your time on ATS enjoyable and interesting , was just wondering if you could shed some light on my questions below...., cheers..




Welcome Tom and i admire you for all the hard research and time you have put into this case over the years, my questions are as follows...


1;Was there any contingency plans prior to Roswell in place by the USAF intelligence regarding possible off world/ET incidents involving the military/public, in other words was there any effective ways of the information ect being controlled, censored or manipulated... i ask this because i really believe that the ORIGINAL report issued by the military involved was genuine because no one expected any such thing to happen , they reported it as it was because there was NO guild lines or orders to prevent them doing so...


2; Can we really trust the military and government that offered THREE different explanations , they in essence LIED three times over Roswell. can we ever trust KNOW liars, in ordinary life most people would NOT. This is mu smoking gun, the change of explanations not once but THREE times... why???


3; Could we really expect the authorities of that time and even know to admit an ET device crashed and ET intelligence's were found also??? There has been many speculations as to why any government would cover up any confirmed ET existence to the world but i suspect that it was done o two accounts, stealth control of any technological understandings gained from crashed device. And panic ...


Too many discrepancies, red flags to suggest or perceive that any of the three offered lies, sorry official explanations are i any way valid.., cheers for your time...

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I have dealt with the Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy fiction elsewhere in this forum.

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1. In the wake of the Roswell crash-recovery, a control-group probably headed by Dr. Vannevar Bush, and variously identified as Majestic Twelve or the Unholy Thirteen was established to exploit and control access to the remains.

2. Whatever that group was called, some form of it no doubt functions to this very day.

3. Something like silicon-chip technology was not amongst the wreckage as described to me by various witnesses.

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You are correct-o-mundo. The anthropomorphic dummies claimed by the Air Force in 1997 to have been what witnesses saw back in 1947 were in fact 6 ft. tall with obvious human-like features and dressed in jump-suits - not the 3 1/2 - 4 ft. tall little fellas with oversized heads in tight-fitting garb as described by the eyewitness at the time.

my most honered sir
1 more quistion
how many years is the secret science,ahead of what we got?
Or what do u supect or take a wild guess at...
please dont scare anyone

I have listened to a few of your interviews and find you to be a very proficient conversationalist, many people interviewed about similar subjects tend to sometimes have a monotone vocal register. In any case, I am curious to know how many of these people you have gathered information from, are involved in other forms of paranormal phenomena, were any mediums? telepathic? healers? ect...

Originally posted by TomCarey
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This was done to try exploit the technology without the Soviets lurking about.There was also in 1947 the fear of possible "panic in the streets" if word got out that the "aliens had landed." due to the 1938 "War of the Worlds" radio broadcast reaction.

We all know that there was a report put out in the papers that the military had recovered a disc at Roswell, was there panic in the streets before they changed the story? Did people run screaming from their homes in terror? The panic on the streets in 1938 was because the war of the worlds broadcast told everyone that the world was being invaded by hostile killer aliens and people were being slaughtered by the 1000's. It basically told people to run for their lives as they were about to die..so they did. In reality there is absolutely no reason why people would panic if there was a simple disclosure of alien life / technology if there was no reports of everyone's lives being in danger.

You say the government wanted to exploit the technology yet we have seen nothing technologically since that time that has not got a long and clear history of development.

Thanks for the reply. No offense but the two answers you have given are the bulk standard replies and to my mind have no basis in the real world. But they do make for good story telling.

Thanks again for your time.

Earlier I had asked multiple questions about technology that was reverse engineered, yet the two examples you mentioned (fiber optics and memory metal) both existed before the crash. So, I will ask again.

What technologies do you know to be specifically reverse engineered from the crash?

I don't mean to be disrespectful,but your two previous answers show that you are guessing. If you don't know, I would gladly acccept that as an answer.

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Why would the Air Force make that kind of statement when in the age of computers and internet,it is easy to do research and find out that the dummies were not used till 1949, not unless in 1947 when the little guys were found it had to do with 1 the Air Force had mutated children exposed to radiation 2 they were experimenting with deformed children. I am sure the Air Force would not like that to get out either

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Interesting. I was unaware that what we refer to as "fibre optics" today can be traced back to the 1800s. Did they refer to them as "fibre optics" back then, and what were they used for?

Originally posted by TomCarey
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A 1947-model UFO is one that was observed in or crashed in 1947, aka an attempt at humor.

Yea, the old Atlantian "Galaxy" reconnaissance vehicle sporting the black hole "Star Eater" propulsion with the series II antigravity fusionary "emulsion" system. The system has demonstrated problems with compensation requirements when traveling at speed close to the surface of planets.

There were one or two other crashes reported near Roswell - conveniently near an important Air Force Base. It strikes me as odd that there could be a number of crashes in the same place and I suspect that these were not normal crashes, they were a delivery mechanism, deliberate crashes, to send these ufos to the Air Force. Also to send a message to someone: "We are here". Maybe that someone was the government? Even if there was only one crash, this thinking still applies. Do you have any information that would substantiate this idea? Thanks.

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The first studies of fiber optics were made in the late 1800s, but practical development did not begin until the early 1950s. The development of fiber optics was spurred by the introduction of lasers in the early 1960s and by the production of the first optical fibers of very pure glass in 1970. The commercial use of fiber optics, especially in communications systems, developed rapidly in the 1980s.

hello Tom. to your knowledge, was mac brazel paid off or threatened (by government/military agency) to ensure his silence?

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Read about the History of Fiber Optics here. First glass rods used to bend light were in 1898

Doctors Roth and Reuss, of Vienna, used bent glass rods to illuminate body cavities in 1888. French engineer Henry Saint-Rene designed a system of bent glass rods for guiding light images seven years later in an early attempt at television. In 1898, American David Smith applied for a patent on a dental illuminator using a curved glass rod. In the 1920s, John Logie Baird patented the idea of using arrays of transparent rods to transmit images for television and Clarence W. Hansell did the same for facsimiles. Heinrich Lamm, however, was the first person to transmit an image through a bundle of optical fibers in 1930. It was an image of a light bulb filament. His intent was to look inside inaccessible parts of the body, but the rise of the Nazis forced Lamm, a Jew, to move to America and abandon his dream of becoming a professor of medicine. His effort to file a patent was denied because of Hansell's British patent.

Originally posted by TomCarey
reply to post by TLomon

 

Interesting. I was unaware that what we refer to as "fibre optics" today can be traced back to the 1800s. Did they refer to them as "fibre optics" back then, and what were they used for?

The development of fiber optics as a communications device has a clear and transparent histiory that can be researched at every stage from the genesis of the concept, development of the technology / equipment (lasers and computers that can read and transmit) and the transmission protocols used. Nothing just appeared at any one point in time.

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Hi Tom.

Thank you for coming to AboveTopSecret.com, we're very happy to have you here.

I have a rather interesting question.

Back in 1979, I was briefly part of a UFO-enthusiast group at my university in upstate New York. A physics professor was the ad-hoc leader of the group and through a contact at Georgetown U., obtained a couple poorly redacted documents related to the incident at Roswell. One of the documents was dated July 3, 1947 and mentioned the Soviets, the "saucer," RAAF, and referenced a timeline document.

The implication was that the "event" was a staged counterintelligence disinformation effort to cause the Soviets to believe we captured and are studying advanced alien technology.

Have you ever some across anything similar to this?

Thanks.

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A case can be made that there were good and valid reasons for covering-up the Roswell crash back in 1947. Not so today. One can only speculate as to why the cover-up continues: lack of mainstream media interest in the subject of UFOs in general; lack of a public mandate to get at the truth; lack of political will to investigate; the inertia of "it's always been covered-up, so let's not rock the boat. These are just a few reasons that come to mind.

Hawking's statement concerning the effectiveness of the UFO/Roswell cover-up by our government is wrong. The Roswell case has been leaking for 40 years, and we have gotten to where we are in our investigation without any government assistance.

Regarding the Flyers chances this year: they will have trouble scoring goals again and finish out of the playoffs, and GM Paul Holmgren, who is looking and sounding more and more like a cast member from "Night of the Living Dead," should have been fired yesterday.

Mr Carey, thank you for your time here at ATS.

The Roswell Incident has provided hope for many of us that have become convinced that the UFO phenomenon represents something truly anomalous that includes some form of non-human intelligence.

However, after reading many books on the subject and scouring other sources it seems to me that when put under a microscope the crashed ET craft hypothesis does not hold up.

I know that many of the earler books by Randle, Schmitt, Moore, etc. were shown to have faulty information and some items were even publicly retracted in later books.

For starters, it seems as if Jesse Marcel Sr is on numerous records showing a willingness for exaggeration at the very least. Exaggeration is a mild term. The following are some items it appears he exaggerated:

1.) Exaggeration of college degree

2.) Exaggeration of pilot experience and flight hours

3.) Exaggeration of role in President Truman announcing the first nuclear explosion by the Soviet Union

Most of the other very few so-called first-hand witnesses also seem to have been convincingly shown to have problems with their stories.

My question: Do you acknowledge and factor these instances in to your investigation and your 99.9% conclusion that Roswell was an Extraterrestrial crashed-craft event ?

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Thank you for your answer, it makes a lot of sense about the inertia of cover ups in general. As far as the Flyers, unfortunately I agree, but I still believe their major problem is the lack of sound, net clearing defensemen. Homer thinks he's fooling everyone by "addressing" the issue and bringing in Mark Streit, who is a great power play piece, but a bit of a liability defensively