Video Link: US Secretary of State about to make an address regarding Syria

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

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woodwardjnrIt's being reduced to the level of the school yard. Pathetic.

Most ignorant statement of the day. You win the Yorkshire pudding prize.

That'll be the "freedom pudding prize" from now on.

Agreed. However, only after UN releases proper proof of what we suspect, and provided the stance of objection is maintained. There is still a chance for redemption. I'm keeping the faith.

Apparently this is the video of President Obama's follow-up after Secretary of State John Kerry's address today. Here are 2 versions, one on Fox News and one on CNN in case you trust one slanted news source more than the other slanted news source. The one on Fox has more of what he said (3:32). The one on CNN is shorter (1:42).

On Fox News

On CNN News

He says he has not yet made a decision but reiterates the no boots on the ground / limited action rhetoric.

FlyersFan
Now we are being subjected to videos of children burned and sick from gas attack.
Lots of dead bodies lined up who died in teh attack ...
Yes .. it moves the heart.
But still ... what does this have to do with the USA?
And why can't someone else take care of this? We are already pushed to the limit.

Yes I was thinking a while ago why don't they take and turn this around and put it on Russia. Get them to fix it since they are such good buds.

This is all about Iran anyway.

reply to post by ikonoklast

He says he has not yet made a decision but reiterates the no boots on the ground / limited action rhetoric.

So another "shock and awe" campaign...

reply to post by MyHappyDogShiner
More like the salesman that has your credit card # already and just conferming in his own mind that that is what you need and want ...sick buggers they are

reply to post by VulcanScienceAcademy
And because we are all convinced this time (not) that we will go for the final evil ...sad and pathetic they are

VulcanScienceAcademy
This is all about Iran anyway.

In part. But this is 3-dimensional chess.

It's about Iran, and the large gas field found off the coast of Syria, and the banning of GMO's by Assad's government, and the Syrian banking system versus western banking systems, and the rising influence of Russia and China in Africa, and the apparent desire to back Al Qaeda rebels over secular governments, and the desire by old European colonial powers (France) to regain control in the region now that there are valuable resources. And probably a couple dozen other reasons including old tribal conflicts, power struggles between neighbors, and yes, maybe even chemical weapons (a little bit).

You could probably factor in some people that want to start a Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or any other kind of apocalypse too.

It will only be a limited attack until the syrians and or russians start shooting back.

we are told that they whole purpose of attacking syria is to punish them for using chemical weapons and to make the president not look weak,by not enforcing his red line ultimatum.
If or when they start shooting back then the president will have to escalate the conflict for the same reason that he started it, so that he won`t look weak and to punish them for sinking a ship or shooting down some U.S. planes or even attacking israel or saudi arabia as they have threatened to do.

The only way that it will be a limit attack is if syria doesn`t defend itself.
No U.S. lives have been lost in syria yet,but he still wants to initiate an attack,so what are the chances that he will just walk away after limited strikes if american ships,planes and lives are lost in this limited attack?


It`s very strange how the president won`t make a live appearance before the media to make a statement about this very serious situation, instead we get a pre recorded statement sent to the MSM.
We are on the verge of what could become a very big war and the president refuses make a live statement to the people and answer questions?
If he so certain that he is doing the right thing then why is he hiding from the people?
Has the U.S. ever started an armed conflict without first having the president make a live statement to the people or will this be a first?

Originally posted by Tardacus
It will only be a limited attack until the syrians and or russians start shooting back.

we are told that they whole purpose of attacking syria is to punish them for using chemical weapons and to make the president not look weak,by not enforcing his red line ultimatum.
If or when they start shooting back then the president will have to escalate the conflict for the same reason that he started it, so that he won`t look weak and to punish them for sinking a ship or shooting down some U.S. planes or even attacking israel or saudi arabia as they have threatened to do.

The only way that it will be a limit attack is if syria doesn`t defend itself.
No U.S. lives have been lost in syria yet,but he still wants to initiate an attack,so what are the chances that he will just walk away after limited strikes if american ships,planes and lives are lost in this limited attack?


It`s very strange how the president won`t make a live appearance before the media to make a statement about this very serious situation, instead we get a pre recorded statement sent to the MSM.
We are on the verge of what could become a very big war and the president refuses make a live statement to the people and answer questions?
If he so certain that he is doing the right thing then why is he hiding from the people?
Has the U.S. ever started an armed conflict without first having the president make a live statement to the people or will this be a first?

Same with Kerry, no questions allowed after his speech

"Limited Attack" is analogous to "a little bit pregnant".

John Kerry has presented a remarkable fabrication of factual errors and lies. As for Pres. Obama, the less I say the better.

I think all of those singing praise to the name of George W. Bush would do well to listen to Susan Lindauer (via YouTube) or read her book "Extreme Prejudice".

George W. Bush's Administration and the Obama Administration -- two sides of the same cabal - are both utterly controlled by the same masters, and warfare is the only play in their playbook as they do their duty as minions of those who abide in the shadows.

Why would Assad do this knowing it would give the US the reason it was looking for to bomb him?

He wouldn't.

War = the US Government gets what it want's and can't lose.

No war = more false flag attacks on more innocent people until the war is demanded by the majority. The US Government gets what it want's and can't lose.

So we can see who can't lose either way, but can you see any one else winning ?



On another matter, I really think people need to start looking more into how the remaining countries yet to sign over to the Reserve system, all get labelled as dictatorships, terrorist states etc, and then have a new puppet regime installed which then happily signs over. To my knowledge, and it may not be 100% correct, but after Syria, it leaves Iran and Nth. Korea as the only countries yet to sign over, possibly Cuba as well ?. Who have we been hearing about recently as the Western worlds biggest threats............Iran and Nth. Korea, and Cuba has long been a "dictatorship" !
Follow the Reserve system resistance, and you'll more than likely be able to predict the next 3 countries invaded.

I support the decision to bomb them. I've seen the videos and am sickened that people have the nerve to say 'it's none of our business. Are you kidding? This is your fellow man being gassed to the point their skin is dripping off of them. This is the regime that is moving military into residential neighborhoods and schools as we all sit here and form opinions.

Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
I support the decision to bomb them. I've seen the videos and am sickened that people have the nerve to say 'it's none of our business.

I think it is rather the case that you support the decision to bomb the straw men put up by U.S. propganda and a video that does not show what you think it shows.

The so-called rebels backed by the USA have slaughtered entire towns of Christians. Assad's government have not. The American and Saudi backed rebels have already used chemical weapons as judged by Carla del Ponte and the UN, and countless Christian denominations in Syria who report that it is the "Rebels" who are using chemical weaponry. The Christians inside Syria -- who have no love for Assad -- all agree that his government's forces have not yet used chemical weapons.

I suspect it is difficult to know what to believe when all you see or hear is propaganda fed through the news media to bolster the U.S. government's desired outcome.

Originally posted by Melekim

Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
I support the decision to bomb them. I've seen the videos and am sickened that people have the nerve to say 'it's none of our business.

I think it is rather the case that you support the decision to bomb the straw men put up by U.S. propganda and a video that does not show what you think it shows.

The so-called rebels backed by the USA have slaughtered entire towns of Christians. Assad's government have not. The American and Saudi backed rebels have already used chemical weapons as judged by Carla del Ponte and the UN, and countless Christian denominations in Syria who report that it is the "Rebels" who are using chemical weaponry. The Christians inside Syria -- who have no love for Assad -- all agree that his government's forces have not yet used chemical weapons.

I suspect it is difficult to know what to believe when all you see or hear is propaganda fed through the news media to bolster the U.S. government's desired outcome.

I believe you are completely wrong and we'll just have to see how this chapter is written in the history books to see whose thinking is right and whose is skewed. Not everything is always some big massive conspiracy.

Nothing much is going to come of this - this time.

US has more oil than Saudi Arabia. I dont think this is about any "gas field" off of Syrias coast LOL.

Originally posted by ikonoklast

VulcanScienceAcademy
This is all about Iran anyway.

In part. But this is 3-dimensional chess.

It's about Iran, and the large gas field found off the coast of Syria, and the banning of GMO's by Assad's government, and the Syrian banking system versus western banking systems, and the rising influence of Russia and China in Africa, and the apparent desire to back Al Qaeda rebels over secular governments, and the desire by old European colonial powers (France) to regain control in the region now that there are valuable resources. And probably a couple dozen other reasons including old tribal conflicts, power struggles between neighbors, and yes, maybe even chemical weapons (a little bit).

You could probably factor in some people that want to start a Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or any other kind of apocalypse too.

edit on 30-8-2013 by ikonoklast because: Edit to add Armageddon...

Paranoid a little? Assad is a dictator who gassed his own peeps. If you cant see that then you have lots of problems. You probably believe in little green men too.

Originally posted by Melekim

Originally posted by Myrtales Instinct
I support the decision to bomb them. I've seen the videos and am sickened that people have the nerve to say 'it's none of our business.

I think it is rather the case that you support the decision to bomb the straw men put up by U.S. propganda and a video that does not show what you think it shows.

The so-called rebels backed by the USA have slaughtered entire towns of Christians. Assad's government have not. The American and Saudi backed rebels have already used chemical weapons as judged by Carla del Ponte and the UN, and countless Christian denominations in Syria who report that it is the "Rebels" who are using chemical weaponry. The Christians inside Syria -- who have no love for Assad -- all agree that his government's forces have not yet used chemical weapons.

I suspect it is difficult to know what to believe when all you see or hear is propaganda fed through the news media to bolster the U.S. government's desired outcome.

reply to post by ikonoklast

When President Obama asserts that there are no U.S. boots on the ground, it is a most clever deception because most U.S. citizens do not realise that the CIA have their own "boots" on the ground there who are every bit military in character and nature but do not wear the uniforms of the official U.S. Armed Forces. And one could mention the hired mercenaries of the U.S. government who are on the ground in Syria... but why muddy the narrative with the stark truth.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Paranoid a little? Assad is a dictator who gassed his own peeps. If you cant see that then you have lots of problems. You probably believe in little green men too.

No, Assad has not gassed his own people. Saddam Hussein gassed the Kurds with the help and approval of the USA. Assad is not Saddam Hussein. As for the death of Syrians by chemical weaponry and by slaughter, that ignominy belongs to the American backed so-called "Syrian Rebels".

The Syrian Christian communities caught between Assad's forces on one side and the "Syrian Rebels" on the other side universally agree that it is the American and Saudi backed "Syrian Rebels" who have employed chemical weapons. Their opinion is the most valuable of all as they are caught between the belligerent parties.