Report: DNA test verified bin Laden's ID, secret Snowden docs show

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by Bassago
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I wasn't aware that Snowden shared any of his documents with the Stars and Strips. How valid do you think this revelation really is? And where did they get the documents?

It is all over the news everywhere, and I provided 4 of the sources reporting on this.

Attacking Stars and Stripes will not save you, the Snowden Docs have spoken. Nice try at deflection though.

What are you talking about? How is that deflection?

Its a fact that Snowden didnt go running to the american press with his revelations.
The Snowden docs havent spoken, because this has nothing to do with Snowdens docs.
Nice try at disinfo though.

OneManArmy

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by Bassago
reply to post by TinfoilTP

 

I wasn't aware that Snowden shared any of his documents with the Stars and Strips. How valid do you think this revelation really is? And where did they get the documents?

It is all over the news everywhere, and I provided 4 of the sources reporting on this.

Attacking Stars and Stripes will not save you, the Snowden Docs have spoken. Nice try at deflection though.

What are you talking about? How is that deflection?

Its a fact that Snowden didnt go running to the american press with his revelations.
The Snowden docs havent spoken, because this has nothing to do with Snowdens docs.
Nice try at disinfo though.

Go back and read any of the stories I linked or google any of the hundreds more out there, the Snowden Docs have spoken but you got your fingers in your ears.

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Good job quoting the article but the hard facts will be in the actual documents, docs I have yet had the time to read myself but lucky for me others in this thread have & so far they report no such info available. So your best hope is all of this info is in the unreleased docs. I still find it odd that all of this information was found in the black budget, which on its own is cool enough, finally getting an idea of how much and what they spend money on, but to have details OBL lab results is odd.

TinfoilTP

Go back and read any of the stories I linked or google any of the hundreds more out there, the Snowden Docs have spoken but you got your fingers in your ears.

I already read the article...

Secret budget documents show that a U.S. military laboratory in Afghanistan analyzed DNA from Osama bin Laden's corpse and confirmed his identify shortly after he was killed by a Navy SEAL team.

Oh right, so I trust a military lab's conclusions do I?
These conclusions have been independently verified yes?

OK, I didnt think so.


There is nothing new in this "news" story. Its the same old "official story" with the tag "Snowden" attached.

flyswatter

Originally posted by OneManArmy

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by Bassago
reply to post by TinfoilTP

 

I wasn't aware that Snowden shared any of his documents with the Stars and Strips. How valid do you think this revelation really is? And where did they get the documents?

It is all over the news everywhere, and I provided 4 of the sources reporting on this.

LMAO, because its all over the mainstream news it must be true eh?

Sorry but the whole scenario surrounding his "death" just doesnt add up. And disinfo like this will not change that.

The MSM ran with the later proven fake Bin Laden Videos.
Actually the MSM runs with whatever they are told to run with, and never show what they are specifically told not to show.

edit on 30-8-2013 by OneManArmy because: (no reason given)

Snowden's docs reveal NSA snooping...
"OMG, its true! They're spying on everything! Bring down the system!"

Snowden's docs reveal paper trail of Bin Laden raid...
"OMG, its disinformation! There's no way it was true!"

Seems to be par for the course right now. People are just butt hurt that this lends credibility to the Bin Laden raid.

Good to see someone not trying to ignore what is going on here.
If the conspiracy community as a whole behaves like the responses witnessed in this thread, Snowden's Docs won't be worth a wipe in the crapper in no time at all.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Is it worth destroying the credibility of the government spying on you evidence, to preserve inconsequential theories about when some terrorist died?
This is why nobody takes the community seriously, nobody knows what they consider important overall, and they will crap all over the good stuff over pet peeve obsessions that are insignificant to the big picture.

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As a general statement, not directed specifically to the quote above,
The Snowden Docs have spoken, Seal Team 6 took out Bin Laden. Accept it or continue to pee all over your evidence that the government is spying on you.

TinfoilTP

flyswatter

Originally posted by OneManArmy

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by Bassago
reply to post by TinfoilTP

 

I wasn't aware that Snowden shared any of his documents with the Stars and Strips. How valid do you think this revelation really is? And where did they get the documents?

It is all over the news everywhere, and I provided 4 of the sources reporting on this.

LMAO, because its all over the mainstream news it must be true eh?

Sorry but the whole scenario surrounding his "death" just doesnt add up. And disinfo like this will not change that.

The MSM ran with the later proven fake Bin Laden Videos.
Actually the MSM runs with whatever they are told to run with, and never show what they are specifically told not to show.

edit on 30-8-2013 by OneManArmy because: (no reason given)

Snowden's docs reveal NSA snooping...
"OMG, its true! They're spying on everything! Bring down the system!"

Snowden's docs reveal paper trail of Bin Laden raid...
"OMG, its disinformation! There's no way it was true!"

Seems to be par for the course right now. People are just butt hurt that this lends credibility to the Bin Laden raid.

Good to see someone not trying to ignore what is going on here.
If the conspiracy community as a whole behaves like the responses witnessed in this thread, Snowden's Docs won't be worth a wipe in the crapper in no time at all.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Is it worth destroying the credibility of the government spying on you evidence, to preserve inconsequential theories about when some terrorist died?
This is why nobody takes the community seriously, nobody knows what they consider important overall, and they will crap all over the good stuff over pet peeve obsessions that are insignificant to the big picture.

---------------------------------------
As a general statement, not directed specifically to the quote above,
The Snowden Docs have spoken, Seal Team 6 took out Bin Laden. Accept it or continue to pee all over your evidence that the government is spying on you.

On the contrary, I find crapping on MOST of the conspiracy theories has a greater success rate than BLINDLY believing them.
Its called Not Taking Anything At Face Value.
Investigate first, find supporting and opposing evidence and then weigh them up.
Its called critical thinking.

The fact that the government was spying on us was no "revelation". Ive known for a few years that DARPA was heavily involved in Facebook.
The extent of their spying on the other hand, that was a revelation.

And Obama wants Snowden so bad because hes going to make the US government look good?

LOL.

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The Snowden Docs have spoken, Seal Team 6 took out Bin Laden. Accept it or continue to pee all over your evidence that the government is spying on you.

N-O !!

The Bin Laden raid has no proof at all ....

This new alleged document is in question.

No proof.

The MSM is using all this to brainwash the public.

N-O !!

Swills
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Good job quoting the article but the hard facts will be in the actual documents, docs I have yet had the time to read myself but lucky for me others in this thread have & so far they report no such info available. So your best hope is all of this info is in the unreleased docs. I still find it odd that all of this information was found in the black budget, which on its own is cool enough, finally getting an idea of how much and what they spend money on, but to have details OBL lab results is odd.

Having your buddies say it is not there is good enough for you hey? The expenditure for the DNA test is there, the date of the test, the location it was done at. The expenditure for the satellites and other assets over the months beforehand. You are going to have to incorporate all of that into your conspiracy that the Raid on Bin Laden never happened. Good luck trying to defend a conspiracy that has been blown out of the water by the darling of the conspiracy universe, Golden Boy Snowden's leaks.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by zatara
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What a wonderful plant will Snowden be...Snowden being a double agent working for the CIA NSA pretending to be a rouge agent and feeding the population false information pretending to be official true information. Confused..? Well that is the goal of it all...only a few know what the real truth is, and we are not those few.

That either makes the Russians really dumb or working hand in hand with the CIA.
I see a problem with your theory but maybe it is just me.

To be honest I do not know what it is really about but what I do know is that the NWO agenda must be pushed forward. IMHO to achieve that all the people of all nations must be facing the same direction. Of course this is the theory and will there be large groups of people facing the other way....

Anyways, if this NWO will ever happen these intelligence agencies from countries like Russia, China, UK, USA and so on must at a certain point work together or be dissolved in an international new agency. Often it seems that insignificant news or developments is part of a larger play...

I don't know, I am just saying...but what I do know is that the NWO is conquering nations/ countries from within.

TinfoilTP

Whatever, this revelation effects all the rabbit holes out there that intersect with Bin Laden and Snowden. A tremor just went through the conspiracy world with this story any way you look at it.

Im starting to see you have an agenda.
You are banding all the "conspiracy world" into a single entity, and trying to discredit it as a whole.
I felt no tremors from where Im sitting. Not from the story and not from you.
From the copious amounts of time given to Snowden by the MSM, Im leaning more to it all being a psy-op myself.

I suppose your definition of a conspiracy theorist is someone that "believes any sh*t they read online"
Whereas a "normal" person believes any sh*t they see on tv.

Me personally I dont believe anything, until I see some sort of proof.

TinfoilTP


Now that everybody's favorite Russian guest has confirmed through the documents he stole that Bin Laden indeed died when they said he did, this can put a rest to the outlandish conspiracy theories that it wasn't him.

Every time someone rolls their eyes and says Bin Laden died years ago or that he is still alive, the go to rebuttal will be....Snowden leaked Seal Team 6 got him so it is forever debunked.

www.stripes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Four sources ,four verbatim statements. From alleged Secret documents. All of these pro government leaks are a dollar short and a day late. Is this the second or third installment of alleged evidence for the first fantasy ?

Originally posted by dazbog

TinfoilTP


Now that everybody's favorite Russian guest has confirmed through the documents he stole that Bin Laden indeed died when they said he did, this can put a rest to the outlandish conspiracy theories that it wasn't him.

Every time someone rolls their eyes and says Bin Laden died years ago or that he is still alive, the go to rebuttal will be....Snowden leaked Seal Team 6 got him so it is forever debunked.

www.stripes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Four sources ,four verbatim statements. From alleged Secret documents. All of these pro government leaks are a dollar short and a day late. Is this the second or third installment of alleged evidence for the first fantasy ?

Hey I don't have the patience to copy paste more than 4.

As I posted previously, use the keywords, Snowden Bin Laden DNA in google,
have fun with that.

It is out there en mass, I never implied or stated there were only 4 places reporting this. I provided links to 4 places that is all.

Originally posted by OneManArmy

TinfoilTP


Me personally I dont believe anything, until I see some sort of proof.

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People see the Snowden leaks as proof of a lot of things.

If it is only convenient to prove some things then what does that say about Snowden's leaks?

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Here's the thing, where is the proof? So far we got articles telling us its there, in the black budget docs, but when my buddies read the doc they came up with no info so the next step is assuming all the info the article is based on is in the docs they didn't publish. Ok great, but the proof is in the pudding and I want some pudding. At least write in the article that the evidence is still being withheld from the public.

In any case, going back & forth with you about this isn't fruitful & I do hate repeating myself. I am glad to see the old ATS is back for now.

Just a thought, but the most clever way to confuse the public about what is being released by Snowden would be for the CIA to release documents that also appear to be from Snowden. It would become easy to discredit him this way.

LOL, the comments on this "The Independent" article made me chuckle.

Fixed Independent Link

It would seem that alternative media is winning the information war.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
Just a thought, but the most clever way to confuse the public about what is being released by Snowden would be for the CIA to release documents that also appear to be from Snowden. It would become easy to discredit him this way.

EXACTLY!!!!

But some people are so desperate to discredit Snowden and "conspiracy theorists"(truth seekers) that they will fail to do a bit of digging of their own.

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Your link says its 404'd, so did they axe the article or is your link bad?

Originally posted by Swills
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Your link says its 404'd, so did they axe the article or is your link bad?

Yes, it was a bad link, too long a url I presume. I fixed it now and it works.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
Just a thought, but the most clever way to confuse the public about what is being released by Snowden would be for the CIA to release documents that also appear to be from Snowden. It would become easy to discredit him this way.

Yep.

And maybe this (and perhaps other) 'Leaked' doc is actually a clever forgery.

And, maybe the 'real' doc(s) contain real info about how they created and sold the Bin Laden fable in the first place.

Hmmm.