Americans , aren't you going to do something

reply to post by mideast


It's not the American people, nor was it the Iraq or the Lebanese nor the Syrian or the Iranians. It is also not the British, Russian, Chinese, North Koreans or the Japanese, who are responsible for the manipulation of the World to War . Most people's of the world only want peace and are coerced into funding and supporting these murderous atrocities.

Enough is enough, its time the intelligent agencies looked to who the real villains are, they must be aware of their machinations.
The world needs to loose these individuals fast.
They need to focus on them , the ones that are pulling all the strings.
Whilst we argue amongst ourselves over the results of their creations, creations that have slaughtered millions of people upon this planet.
They hide like cowards in their holes dictating on whim and financial gain , who shall live and who shall die.

Again ENOUGH, THEY NEED TO BE STOPPED AND STOPPED SOON.

Many of the relationships between countries would not be in the state they are now , if these individuals were eradicated.
They do not number many and they have shown through their latest game plan , who they are.
They as always, are the ones calling loudest for blood.

Even we the lowly peasants know who they are.
Look to the money and the profiteering and you will find where these beasts hide.

HOW DARE THEY KILL THE WORLDS CHILDREN FOR THEIR TRUMPED UP GREED.!!!

reply to post by mideast


Do you support these people? It won't be Americans who finally hold the Iranian Tyrants accountable...it will be your own people.

reply to post by Devino


That is really what warmblooded do.

2nd

reply to post by Devino


That is really what warmblooded do.

2nd

Originally posted by Mythos13
reply to post by mideast

 

Instead of asking us Americans to do something, my not ask the Syrians to stop killing each other? If they would stop, there would be no issue.

I asked them , they answered "we are not Syrian , we are Afghan , Pakistani , Turk and Libyan"

So what should we do ?

Ok. Ive followed this the last day or so and Im curious why you want US (the US) to do something? Why dont YOU do something other than sitting there, questioning a conspiracy forum about why WE are not doing something?

Respectfully, it would be helpful to our world if everyone got involved in more things. Not just sitting comfortable in your place asking the rest of us here...when are WE gonna do something?

Again friend...its hard wading our way thru US politics...and what do about them...We shouldnt as well be expected to police the world. And yet, we are expected to...

So I ask....when are YOU gonna help US....do something? (other than asking the question).

You can see where I am coming from I hope....????

reply to post by capone1

Members of the site commenting, and even just reading these boards ARE doing something. They are accumulating knowledge that can be shared. Many people on this site are physically involved as well.

That is what I ask.

What are you doing to help America? You are suggesting with "you" that all of America is standing for everything happening. Take that comment to yahoo or pop culture boards.....not here on ATS.

can you explain a little more. How difference is Yahoo ? Do you think that people will listen to this ?

reply to post by mideast

There is only one thing we American's can do to set things right, but we waste time arguing about too many other meaningless things until it's too late, it seems to be an established pattern.

The only way to kill the monster is to starve it, don't feed it anything at all, but that would entail doing things that people here just refuse to do.

All of the things we enjoy and take for granted are what the monster thrives upon....

We need only to STOP.

Additionally....you can see how interested we are as a society on these things.

Look how all the Syrian talk is getting side stepped by Miley Cyrus!

See! We DO care!*

*(sarcasm-tongue-in-cheek-point-to-be-made)

Originally posted by maes2

Originally posted by sonnny1
Im still waiting to hear how Iranians feel about bombing Israel after the fact. Are they going to be out in full protest?
I highly doubt it.

after which fact. they are not adventurer. some one else is going to war. you are in the wrong way.
they are in the middle east and they know what war means.
yes of course if Israel attacks a country, that country has a right to defend itself or you are denying this.

That is not how proud self centered people think . they are high and others are low. They are rich and others are poor. Their blood is gold and others blood is soil.

SO , what do you mean that the same law should be applied on us ?

Originally posted by maes2

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by mideast

 

I dont care about that. What I care about is what is the avarage Iranian is doing while its Country prepares for strikes on Israel. Are they protesting?

Iranians, aren't you going to do something ?

Iran has never started a war and it will never start it. it is in the middle of middle east not like foreign powers when they strike and escape.

Why aren't you listening , Iran US Syria are ALL evil. Isreal is the only democracy meant to form on the planet for the chosen people.

Bow to chosen people and put your gun down now.

I hope I live to see the day when the problems in the middle east and in the Muslim world are solved...I really do. I very much doubt it, though. As long as government and religion are not separate, there will be problems over there. Religion is a plague. The middle east is rich with culture and history and its a shame that politics and extreme religious ideology makes it so someone from the United States cannot easily travel to Iran or Afghanistan without fear of kidnappings, murder or both. If you want to solve the problems in Syria, Iran and the entire middle east, then stop electing anyone who refuses to separate religion and government. I feel the exact same thing here in the US. I used to vote republican but, the party is full of religious fanatics who want to force and implement Christian ideology in government.

reply to post by piequal3because14

When come to responsability Europe has run like a coward,by leaving US alone....to pay the bills.

That is the price that the police should pay and this is how one world govt should work.

I hope we find a way out.

Originally posted by mideast
reply to post by Indigo5

 

Maybe you don't understand the nature of Democracy vs. Dictatorship?...

Which dicatorship exactly , the dictatorship of Shah ?

Or

the dictatorship of saddam when he was invading Iran ?

Or

The dictatorship of Saudi king importing terrorists to Syria ?

I feel for you if your world involves a choice exclusively amongst Dictators?

Democracy vs. Dictatorship....We Americans do not have fear ingrained in us the way entire generations do in Iran.

So you prefer your current Dictatorship to the Dictatorship under the Shah? Good...any measure of less suffering is good...but it is certainly not Democracy, nor safe ground to stand upon while bashing the USA, which for all it's ills still remains home of the free and land of the brave.

And to bottom-line it...

Iran is not a threat to America, we will never invade or occupy. Iran is just a nuisance to Democracy and continues to try and destabilize Iraq, support Assad in Syria etc.. The US Gov. will continue to support the Iranian people each time they rise up and one of these days, the people will topple the Iranian Government…Arab Spring coming to you soon

Syria?...We will never put boots on the ground. That’s not on the table. We will strike a collection of targets to lessen Syria’s Air capabilities.

We know that the rebel forces include Islamic Extremists and the CIA has worked to try and empower the non-extremists amongst the Rebel forces and to isolate the extremists. Will it work? Who knows…Why do it then?

Because America knows one thing for sure…these types of revolutions do not end with the Dictator doing a victory lap…They end with Muammar Gaddafi being dragged off and shot or Saddam Hussein being hung.

So we try to effect the outcome, which is certain regardless of our actions, to be in our favor.

Sometimes it takes days…sometimes years…but Dictatorships around the world are expiring…And banning the internet or twitter won’t stop it…nor will teams of internet posters.

Stop blaming America for the concept of freedom and people rising up. We might have been the one of the first to give it a go, but freedom is a universal “creator” endowed right.

Just my 2 cents.

reply to post by mideast


As long as there is a Cheese burger at Mcdonalds. Free money for college. Cell phones Facebook and satellite TV with 100 times more drama and comedy shows than news shows. And as long as Mainstream media cencors and lies about the news...We will do nothing. If we do we have fema prison ran by the DOD for people with political views that are not those of the government.

As long as there are gwen towers and devices that can make poeple think they or someone else is insane we will do nothing. We are a country of Mancharian Candidates. With conditions views opinions and reality we will do nothing. It is almost always another country freeing a people or jump starting a revolution. As long as echelon and prizm exist there can be no successful attempt to take down our tyrannes government. As long as the other countries of the world ALLOW what our government has done and will be doing we ourselves can do nothing. As long as our governments technology is superior to t civilian technology we can do nothing. As long as the %25 of the population with their own opinions and non conditioned views are trapped by drug addiction and diseases. We can do nothing.

You said it yourself...brainwashing. Those that know are afraid. Those that dont think nothing is wrong. As long as politicians are payed off of blackmailed...as long as whistle blowers are thought to be tyranis and betraying. As long as the government runs the Communcations network and as long as ATS is considered a place for a bunch of kooks to gather nothing can be done. God this post is making me severely depressed...

reply to post by mideast


Do you see the obstacles those that are willing to do something faces. The amount of unilateral attacks that would have to be done simultaneously is derailing in and of itself. I bow out of this thread as it is too depressing.

(Bows head Turns on CNN and agrees with everything that is said) To protect my livelyhood.

Originally posted by mideast
reply to post by piequal3because14

 

When come to responsability Europe has run like a coward,by leaving US alone....to pay the bills.

That is the price that the police should pay and this is how one world govt should work.

I hope we find a way out.

I will think out a way,but right now it is too much silence.

The silence of collusion of a criminal group.

reply to post by mideast

Why aren't you listening , Iran US Syria are ALL evil. Isreal is the only democracy meant to form on the planet for the chosen people.

Sorry I thought Iran's Shia's the 12'ers where 'Gods chosen'. ?

Originally posted by whyamIhere
To the OP....The answer is No.

We will not spill one more drop of American blood for people who stab us in the back.

The average person in these Countries either can't or won't stand up for themselves.

We are tired of fighting people hiding behind women. Who will not stand and fight.

I do have compassion. I send my prayers...I will not send our Sons.

And I pray ,too.

Save your sons.

reply to post by Indigo5

The American people have less fear of thier government than almost any other country on earth.

NSA , TSA , PIPPA , FEMA , are all applied in other countries.

Actually we have bombing in Iran almost everyday. And I see that other nations are not revolting against their govt. IT is only you that are so brave to do it.

End of Sarcasm---------------------------------------------

Whilst here on ATS and other places the average American can publicly accuse our current President of all types of things ranging from Tyrant to Terrorist to Homosexual Murderer....with complete impunity other than hearing equally vocal opinions to the contrary.

That was before the NSA scandal , how many open talking are there ?

And how much those talking has lead to some action ?

Whilst from where you post in Iran you are unable to slight your own governmet and leaders in the least without risking immediate arrest?

This is my country where people could come out and hold this big protest in one day



WE kicked Shah , the US puppet out of our country 33 years ago.

Unless you would like to prove me wrong and summarize the failings of the current Iranian leadership?

He failed to make people remember how US is tearing the region apart and how it has always been planing to steal the sheep.

IS that enough ?