I Asked the NSA for its File on Me and Here's What I Got Back

reply to post by sayzaar

Yes, yes, YESSSSSS.

NOW youre using your brains.

Better yet, I should say its our right to know.

No disclaimers.

Originally posted by NeoParadigm

Originally posted by BigBrotherDarkness
If the can't use the metadata to see the contents or who is making the calls as they say in the letter. Then how are they using the number and length of call time, to determine terrorist or drug related activity? Numerology and tarot cards?

They can use it but there are restrictions. There has to be reasonable suspicion, or so the letter says.

That's such a cop-out on their part.

Let's say you have a smart phone, take a photo of yourself with it, then either post it directly to a website from the phone or upload it to a PC then to a website. In either instance anyone could download that photo, use an EXIF viewer and obtain the photos metadata.

To some metadata is just a new buzzword, but it has an actual meaning; "data about data". With that simple photo, exact location could be determined. It's how social sites like Facebook have the ability to note what locality a photo was taken at.

Here's a site you can view photo Exif data at;
regex.info...

Photo taken by an acquaintance of me, using the Exif viewer some interesting data is relieved.



Results...the exact location where the photo was taken.



So if I can do that, with a website...just think what the NSA is doing.

"Adversaries."

That covers a lot of ground. Looks like anyone asking might be considered kind of adversarial.

How ominous is that?

another thing...

Are we to supposed to assume that national security is so easily jeopardized... that sending personal data to a citizen might somehow place valuable intel in enemy hands? Oh really?

Well, at least we've learned one thing for sure... they cannot escape bureaucracy either.

he should have asked edward snowden for it lol

reply to post by WepsHCS

That's such a cop-out on their part.

No it isn't. They are not going to snoop for this guy's metadata you because he wants them too, because that is not how they work or are allowed to work.

They only go snooping when they have a real reason to go after someone, not to humour the guy.

They are not saying that they are not able to.

Originally posted by andy06shake
Just remember the NSA have resources that Satan would be envious off.

Be careful mate because essentially you are poking a hornet's nest with stick!

These clowns don't react well to citizens who know their rights and pursue them.

Next thing you know there will be strange clicks on your phone line, maybe worse!

edit on 27-8-2013 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)

All you need is a catch phrase or key word at just the right time.. the redirect was
about as subtle as dropping a five pound maul on my right big toe. Payback DIS.

Specifically and at this point, I couldn't care less what they know or don't know--
because I'm too broke to pay my rent much less cause significant trouble. And
everybody knows only the crooks are subsidized now...

Oh, yeah and in this hall closet that hosts a leak from the washing machine drain
upstairs is a nine volt Tardis Adapter, wall wart and Tomahawk. You got me.
I'm still looking for cowl rivets, but there ya go boys. You want a dolly for that?

Back to a dubious reality.. you DO know there's a no-anything list, right? I'm on it.
It's getting to the point you have to spend over 50 grand and twenty years just to
get a driver's license back in this ILhellhole, because of the red tape. Of course
being poltically aware doesn't help either... here come the Trotsky fake beards.
Grouchosky ver.2.1, ahhh the good old days are here again.

reply to post by NeoParadigm


That is the cop-out. Of course they're going to use the "Glomar response", it allows them an exit on FOIA requests. I understand OSPEC, I understand National Security, but there must also be oversight. I'm sorry, but when the NSA has the time to collect data like it does, they're not just tossing it into digital storage without some sort of way to query it. Something as simplistic as a SSN would be used and everything they've got would come up on that individual.

No one in the public has any idea what the NSA is relegated to, you think you do because of FISA, but in reality they could be doing as they please.

reply to post by WepsHCS

I'm sorry, but when the NSA has the time to collect data like it does, they're not just tossing it into digital storage without some sort of way to query it. Something as simplistic as a SSN would be used and everything they've got would come up on that individual.

Like I said, and they said, they are very capable of doing that, obviously, they are simply not going to because this guy wants them too, and also not because it would it would give out info about their operation.