We are being LIED to about Syria and Chemical Weapons Use

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I'm not sure what to believe TBH.

Earlier today the UN Convoy were shot at by Snipers which means somebody doesn't wan them going to the lace of supposed Chemical attack!

And may Assad doesn't look like he would do this to his own people but look back at what Gaddafi did to his and Mugabe did/does to his.... It is very hard to tell who is capable of doing what to who just by the way someone talks or dresses!

All tin pot toss pot dictators do bad things to their people! What about Mad Sadam and Chemical Ali!
Its not like there is no precident in the ME for gas attacks

Originally posted by hurdygurdy

Very well said. If the people of this world can't see this, then we truly are doomed. SnF.

Not only do I see it but I know it is done in my name with my slavery debt notes and not a damn thing I can do about it but watch in disgust.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I'm not sure what to believe TBH.

Earlier today the UN Convoy were shot at by Snipers which means somebody doesn't wan them going to the lace of supposed Chemical attack!

And may Assad doesn't look like he would do this to his own people but look back at what Gaddafi did to his and Mugabe did/does to his.... It is very hard to tell who is capable of doing what to who just by the way someone talks or dresses!

Looks are irrelevant.

What is relevant is a dispassionate look at who gains and who loses through chemical weapons use.

The regime gains little. They have over the summer stabilised the situation and with the assistance of hezbollah forces retaken some ground lost earlier. They dont need it.

The rebels gain everything. If the west intervenes on thier behalf they get to watch as the west gives them the keys to the nation.

I have no evidence so cannot say with certainty either way, but on balance looking at motive I think it more likely the rebels again.

Originally posted by justwokeup

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I'm not sure what to believe TBH.

Earlier today the UN Convoy were shot at by Snipers which means somebody doesn't wan them going to the lace of supposed Chemical attack!

And may Assad doesn't look like he would do this to his own people but look back at what Gaddafi did to his and Mugabe did/does to his.... It is very hard to tell who is capable of doing what to who just by the way someone talks or dresses!

Looks are irrelevant.

What is relevant is a dispassionate look at who gains and who loses through chemical weapons use.

The regime gains little. They have over the summer stabilised the situation and with the assistance of hezbollah forces retaken some ground lost earlier. They dont need it.

The rebels gain everything. If the west intervenes on thier behalf they get to watch as the west gives them the keys to the nation.

I have no evidence so cannot say with certainty either way, but on balance looking at motive I think it more likely the rebels again.

What if the plan was for the rebels to get the blame because perception would be influenced mainly on who gains and who loses! And if no evidence left to inspect....well!

Originally posted by RP2SticksOfDynamite

Originally posted by justwokeup

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I'm not sure what to believe TBH.

Earlier today the UN Convoy were shot at by Snipers which means somebody doesn't wan them going to the lace of supposed Chemical attack!

And may Assad doesn't look like he would do this to his own people but look back at what Gaddafi did to his and Mugabe did/does to his.... It is very hard to tell who is capable of doing what to who just by the way someone talks or dresses!

Looks are irrelevant.

What is relevant is a dispassionate look at who gains and who loses through chemical weapons use.

The regime gains little. They have over the summer stabilised the situation and with the assistance of hezbollah forces retaken some ground lost earlier. They dont need it.

The rebels gain everything. If the west intervenes on thier behalf they get to watch as the west gives them the keys to the nation.

I have no evidence so cannot say with certainty either way, but on balance looking at motive I think it more likely the rebels again.

What if the plan was for the rebels to get the blame because perception would be influenced mainly on who gains and who loses! And if no evidence left to inspect....well!

Doesn't make any sense. Why would a regime who after three years and 100,000 dead on all sides has gained the upper hand and momentum take a gamble on such a thing. There is down side for them and no upside.

There is no chance the western world will turn on the rebels whatever they do as they want Assad gone for other reasons. There is already strong indications the rebels used chemical weapons, from the UN no less. The story died because it doesn't fit the narrative being constructed.

This whole thing stinks of bull#.

Originally posted by justwokeup

Originally posted by RP2SticksOfDynamite

Originally posted by justwokeup

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I'm not sure what to believe TBH.

Earlier today the UN Convoy were shot at by Snipers which means somebody doesn't wan them going to the lace of supposed Chemical attack!

And may Assad doesn't look like he would do this to his own people but look back at what Gaddafi did to his and Mugabe did/does to his.... It is very hard to tell who is capable of doing what to who just by the way someone talks or dresses!

Looks are irrelevant.

What is relevant is a dispassionate look at who gains and who loses through chemical weapons use.

The regime gains little. They have over the summer stabilised the situation and with the assistance of hezbollah forces retaken some ground lost earlier. They dont need it.

The rebels gain everything. If the west intervenes on thier behalf they get to watch as the west gives them the keys to the nation.

I have no evidence so cannot say with certainty either way, but on balance looking at motive I think it more likely the rebels again.

What if the plan was for the rebels to get the blame because perception would be influenced mainly on who gains and who loses! And if no evidence left to inspect....well!

Doesn't make any sense. Why would a regime who after three years and 100,000 dead on all sides has gained the upper hand and momentum take a gamble on such a thing. There is down side for them and no upside.

There is no chance the western world will turn on the rebels whatever they do as they want Assad gone for other reasons. There is already strong indications the rebels used chemical weapons, from the UN no less. The story died because it doesn't fit the narrative being constructed.

This whole thing stinks of bull#.

If it is the Syrian regime, what we dont know is who, Ass-ad, his brother, a loose carazy General or some other faction. Why might it be done, because they can, becaue this is what dictators do, Sadam did it too. Maybe someone did it for revenge because their own family got wiped out. Who knows for sure who and why!

We shall just have to wait and see but I would not be surprised if it was Ass-ad mob!

Assad is an awful brutal dictator like leader.He is not as crazy as Hitler or Stalin or Mao.He still is a awful dictator to to put up with.After the false info on Iraq having wmds I am not sure I trust the U.S.declaring that Assad is the one who fired the chemical weapons.Assad still is a dictator though.

I do recall when the first accusations of chemical weapon use occurred there were almost immediately claims by experts that said there is no corroborative evidence, even a few films doubt was cast on them. I thought at the time whether i should save these expert statements, but i did not. However i am sure someone did. But why does it matter ? Because most recently i saw a claim that they may need to go in and inspect the weapon facilities, and if they dont get what they want there may have to be resolutions to enforce that. Sounds hauntingly similar to recent history. And so i wonder, where is the oil, the drugs or gold mine, what does Syria have that America wants?

Who will sell energy to Europe.

Iran via their friends Russia and Syria, who both benefit, or the Gulf's US allies whose pipeline needs to cross Syria and who are not at the best of terms. Money and control.

Just an opinion of course. It could be about saving a bunch of poor people who the leaders of the world have never cared about before.

reply to post by justwokeup


Please show me one ounce of proof that the mean old US is behind this. Believe it or not, there genuinely are evil people in this World who are living places other than the US. Yeesh...

reply to post by phantomjack


Well a coup d'etat obviously failed, and the jackals failed...the next step is to send in the military. We've seen this over and over with other dictators in numerous countries.

Assad is obviously not playing ball with some very powerful movers and shakers.

The American public is sick of war, but also desensitized too. While I'm sure most people don't want us to get involved, the people are tired and just want to turn away.

I have not read this entire thread, so I'm not sure if this has been answered already, but can someone explain to me why Assad didn't let UN inspectors in immediately? Now US officials are saying that its too late because their may not be any evidence preserved.

It's clear to almost everyone who has the motive to pull off the chemical attacks, however I just don't understand why Assad dragged his feet on getting inspectors in there.

reply to post by jaws1975


Its not clear why. I have heard rebels are making it hard but that sounds one sided. UN inspectors were in the area during the attack so it does seem as if delays become harder to justify. Inspectors have been shot at. Find out who is doing the shooting and this could provide a clue but that won't happen. They're going in to inspect today. In the meantime Assad venomously denies having anything to do with this. In one of his statements he said he would have put his own military at risk; why would he do that - it makes no sense (his message). I wonder if any within his military were killed? I don't think so.

Not every country on the planet believes they need to jump when the countries with the biggest stick say to.

reply to post by roadgravel


How did that work out for Saddam? I agree with you in principle, but Assad also knows that the evil ones are frothing at the mouth to justify an attack.

Originally posted by jaws1975
reply to post by roadgravel

 

How did that work out for Saddam? I agree with you in principle, but Assad also knows that the evil ones are frothing at the mouth to justify an attack.

Doesn't matter does it. Once you are in the sights, it will not matter whether you dance or not, you are going down.

Hi Guys,

Haven't read any of this thread want to post this first. I can't make a new thread.
I joined to post this.

Mail Online Article published 29th Jan 2013.

Deleted Daily Mail Online Article: “US Backed Plan for Chemical Weapon Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad”

www.globalresearch.ca...

Infowars wrote an article Jan 28th

Infowars

I am in Australia but managed to get through to the Alex Jones Show and brought it to their attention.

I saw it on a youtube clip here Youtube

I also called Brian Wiltshire on 2gb and he spun out. Loved it. Said this was very big News.

Hope the links work

Thanks..

Dave

reply to post by roadgravel


I think it does matter, it's what has allowed Iran to buy a few years worth of time. Time is important here, people are waking up at a fantastic rate, especially when the US is getting sloppy with it's wet work. It's a lot harder to pull these things off when most of the people on earth are against it.

reply to post by jaffo


Where did that random question come from? Is that a deliberate red herring or are you just confused. I don't believe i said or even insinuated that the US is behind it.

Of those that are credibly behind it, I find the extremist jihadi sections of the rebels to be the most likely perpetrators. They have everything to gain and nothing to lose.