We are being LIED to about Syria and Chemical Weapons Use

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Originally posted by juspassinthru

Originally posted by canucks555
We already have proof that a false-flag, chemical weapons attack was in the works

Who's we?

Do you have mice in your pocket?

Or are you talking about ATS proof? heheh.

As much as I totally loath quoting the mainstream propaganda sources, how about an Asian News International story released thru Yahoo News?


in.news.yahoo.com...

or

www.infowars.com...
(archived in case story removed)


The mice in my pocket are vast numbers of alternative news sites that have far more integrity than any MSM propaganda site.

WOW!!! I am going to cite the content of the article for those who are too lazy to click the link:

London, Jan 30 (ANI): The Obama administration gave green signal to a chemical weapons attack plan in Syria that could be blamed on President Bashar al Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country, leaked documents have shown.
A new report, that contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence, showed a scheme 'approved by Washington'.
As per the scheme 'Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons,' the Daily Mail reports.
Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.
According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.
The emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumes and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to Cyber War News.
According to the paper, the U.S. State Department has declined to comment on the matter. (ANI)

If this is true, OMG....I hit the nail right on the head with my OP.

Originally posted by Bone75

Originally posted by phantomjack
I have been preaching this for 6 months now. We are being lied to. Assad would not use chemical weapons -- he doesnt have to! He has plenty of conventional weapons at his disposal. Why would he risk being "taken out" by this rogue US White house that has taken out Mubarak, Quadafi, and even Hussein? 3 Dictators taken out so far. and now a forth?

Did you forget about Chavez and Kim?

Not at all. Kim is still in power, and I don't believe the conspiracy theory that we gave Chavez Cancer.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


Great post! Star to you.

Obama has been reluctant to intervene in Syria's 2-1/2-year-old conflict and U.S. officials stressed that he has yet to make a decision on how to respond. A senior senator, Republican Bob Corker, said on Sunday he believed Obama would ask Congress for authorization to use force when lawmakers return from summer recess next month.

They make it sound as if Obama is some sort of war genius. Gee, Obama, did you get your football brackets done yet? Seems that is about the only official strategic training you have ever engaged....

Originally posted by hurdygurdy

Hmm, does the media use staged actors and CGI ?

Unbelievable find! Everyone needs to take the 7 minutes of their time and watch the video you posted.

THIS IS THE SMOKING GUN!!!!

That William Hague muppet is the veritable 'Rumsfeld' of this new push to secure Arab oil. Listening to his interviews, the war monger has all but sentenced Assad for using chemical weapons, without a shred of concrete evidence to support his claims.

Did you see that footage? How the fúck is that ham acting conclusive evidence of chemical weapon affliction? Are they forgetting these are largely hard line Islamists waging war? Islamist are permitted to lie in order to further their jihadist machinations —

"And they (the disbelievers / infidels) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the greatest of schemers. " (Sûrah 3:54)

Are they blind to what Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya have turned out like once these 'Springs' were aided in running their course? More to the point:

HAS BUSH FOUND THE WMD's YET??

I can't believe they're getting away with this shít again. Those that employ these schleps really do have no power over them once they're in government.

Originally posted by aLLeKs
wasn't there some proof a while ago, that some chemical weapon attacks have been made by the rebels?
I still think, that this is no coincidence, that Syria is on the agenda now. The USA need Syria, because it is a strategic spot on the map.
I have met several Syrians in my life and they all have been pro-Assad.
It is like in Libya, most of the people have been pro-Gaddafi.... and what do we have now in all this countries that got invaded?
Do we have peace in Iraq? In Afghanistan?
What about all the countries that had a revolution?
Is it better now in Egypt? In Libya?
Do people feel better in Tunisia now?
Are all this people free now?
NO!

Nothing has changed and never will, you can invade this countries, you can drop a lot of bodies on the ground, but this will just make the countries more unstable! The more the west tries to take a role in this countries through military actions, the more hate will spread against the west in this countries. Soldiers kill other soldiers, that is war. BUT they also kill a lot ov civilians that just want to live their lifes.
We already have enough dead people arround the world in this new milenium.

F this BS, I just want to have children at some point in the future and they should be happy and living in a world where they dont have to see news on war everyday.

I am with you...I too have "war fatigue". My entire life, since 1965, has been War, War, War. I am just sick of it.

I think Syria is seeing special forces action for some time (months) launched by US and allies. This is in addition to funding and arming the opposition.

The 'chemical weapons' is just a ruse to justify hostile actions.

I am not defending Assad. His government uses brutal methods like all other middle-east nations. However he is no worse than rulers of Saudi or Qatar who are sponsoring rebellion against him.

Originally posted by phantomjack
I have been preaching this for 6 months now. We are being lied to. Assad would not use chemical weapons -- he doesnt have to! He has plenty of conventional weapons at his disposal. Why would he risk being "taken out" by this rogue US White house that has taken out Mubarak, Quadafi, and even Hussein? 3 Dictators taken out so far. and now a forth?

How convenient for the White House. Look at the language they are using: Terms like "we must act" and "time is drawing near" and "we must prevent additional chemical weapons use"

“Based on the reported number of victims, reported symptoms of those who were killed or injured, witness accounts, and other facts,” a senior administration official tells ABC News, “There is very little doubt at this point that a chemical weapon was used by the Syrian regime against civilians in this incident. We are continuing to assess the facts so the President can make an informed decision about how to respond to this indiscriminate use of chemical weapons.”

SOURCE

Just take the time to watch this interview of Assad. Does this look like a tyrant? Does this man look like he would gas his own people? Don't you get a sense that Assad is more meek than he is a killer?

The White House or TPTB want this guy dead or exile or imprisoned because IMHO he is standing in someone's way of something. Is he standing in the way of taking down IRAN? Syria is heavily armed. Syria would stand by IRAN and provide IRAN with support. So what better way -- make Assad look like a killer -- plant the poison gas and make it look like HE did it, when it was in fact a CIA backed rebel movement that did it.

I am so sick and tired of this crap.

Unless you have proof he (or the rebels) did not chemical weapons, then everything you wrote is pure speculation. For you to present a subject indicating that we are being lied to, then offer no proof makes you subject to deserved criticism.

Please present proof to back up your claims.

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
Evidence of Syria chemical attack may have been destroyed.

I added this to another thread, but those frequenting this one may find it interesting.

edit on 8/25/2013 by ProfessorChaos because: typo

How Effing Convenient.

One has to be blind not to sign on to what I am saying on this thread.

reply to post by Freenrgy2


How can anybody present any evidence. The question is who fired the weapons? What is the identity of the attackers?
Did US/UK offer any proof?

Just the fact chemical weapons are used, does not create reason enough to blame a certain side in a conflict.

Originally posted by wantsome
I wouldn't be surprised if the rebel factions were the ones to use chemical weapons as a false flag to get America involved. The Zionist media (cnn msnbc fox) in America are leading a propaganda campaign to portray the Syrian government as the aggressors. The US is looking for an excuse to take out Syria's antiaircraft weapons. Once it's done Israel will have a clear path to Iran to take out their nuclear program.

If the US attacks Syria and their backs are to the wall who's to say they won't launch chemical weapons are Israel? After seeing what the US did to Saddam in Iraq if I were Assad and knew my days were numbered I'd take Israel out with me. This could get real messy.

Personally I'm sick of my government sticking it's nose in every conflict. We need to mind our own business and quit being the world police force.

edit on 25-8-2013 by wantsome because: (no reason given)

Well said!! I think you nailed it right on the head.

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed.

Damascus has recently facing growing Western accusations that its forces used such weapons, which President Obama has described as crossing a red line. But Ms. del Ponte’s remarks may serve to shift the focus of international concern.

Read more: www.washingtontimes.com...

Originally posted by Freenrgy2

Originally posted by phantomjack
I have been preaching this for 6 months now. We are being lied to. Assad would not use chemical weapons -- he doesnt have to! He has plenty of conventional weapons at his disposal. Why would he risk being "taken out" by this rogue US White house that has taken out Mubarak, Quadafi, and even Hussein? 3 Dictators taken out so far. and now a forth?

How convenient for the White House. Look at the language they are using: Terms like "we must act" and "time is drawing near" and "we must prevent additional chemical weapons use"

“Based on the reported number of victims, reported symptoms of those who were killed or injured, witness accounts, and other facts,” a senior administration official tells ABC News, “There is very little doubt at this point that a chemical weapon was used by the Syrian regime against civilians in this incident. We are continuing to assess the facts so the President can make an informed decision about how to respond to this indiscriminate use of chemical weapons.”

SOURCE

Just take the time to watch this interview of Assad. Does this look like a tyrant? Does this man look like he would gas his own people? Don't you get a sense that Assad is more meek than he is a killer?

The White House or TPTB want this guy dead or exile or imprisoned because IMHO he is standing in someone's way of something. Is he standing in the way of taking down IRAN? Syria is heavily armed. Syria would stand by IRAN and provide IRAN with support. So what better way -- make Assad look like a killer -- plant the poison gas and make it look like HE did it, when it was in fact a CIA backed rebel movement that did it.

I am so sick and tired of this crap.

Unless you have proof he (or the rebels) did not chemical weapons, then everything you wrote is pure speculation. For you to present a subject indicating that we are being lied to, then offer no proof makes you subject to deserved criticism.

Please present proof to back up your claims.

I have no shred of proof. Just theory. But my theory is backed by logic.

Lets ask ourselves this:

1. Would Assad use chemical weapons, knowing by doing so would bring down the wrath of the USA to bomb the # out of him and probably kill him in the process? Would he commit suicide by US bombing? OR

2. Would the rebels, et. al., stage the use of chemical weapons to bring rage from the rest of the world to go in and bomb the # out of Assad to get him out of power.

3. Would Assad kill innocent women and children knowing that by doing so would be the end of his life as he knew it OR

4. Would some other power, who wants to see the downfall of Assad use the trauma of dead women and children to get the entire world riled up against Assad?

These are simple questions with very simple answers.

Originally posted by hurdygurdy

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed.

Damascus has recently facing growing Western accusations that its forces used such weapons, which President Obama has described as crossing a red line. But Ms. del Ponte’s remarks may serve to shift the focus of international concern.

Read more: www.washingtontimes.com...

edit on 25-8-2013 by phantomjack because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by hurdygurdy

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed.

Damascus has recently facing growing Western accusations that its forces used such weapons, which President Obama has described as crossing a red line. But Ms. del Ponte’s remarks may serve to shift the focus of international concern.

Read more: www.washingtontimes.com...

edit on 25-8-2013 by phantomjack because: sorry...editor problems.

I HAVE BEEN VINDICATED!!!!!!

Oh, but yet the WHITE HOUSE today announced they were sure it was Assad, and they are moving warships closer to Syria.

This Administration is CRIMINAL if they bomb Syria. CRIMINAL!!!!!

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

SOURCE

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.
Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

Right now, I want to do a victory dance....but I will reserve that for another time. I just LOVE being right.

Originally posted by phantomjack
I HAVE BEEN VINDICATED!!!!!!

Oh, but yet the WHITE HOUSE today announced they were sure it was Assad, and they are moving warships closer to Syria.

This Administration is CRIMINAL if they bomb Syria. CRIMINAL!!!!!

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

SOURCE

Gee...I wonder what Nobel Peace Prize POTUS will do next? Any takers? Anyone? Beuller? Beuller???

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.
Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

Right now, I want to do a victory dance....but I will reserve that for another time. I just LOVE being right.

edit on 25-8-2013 by phantomjack because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by phantomjack
Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

SOURCE

Yeah John Kerry. It is much tougher to govern with the internet cause we don't believe a damn thing you or anyone else tells us anymore.

Boo fricken hoo. Eat it, sukka. Take your contrived lies and shove em.

reply to post by phantomjack


Good find on most current discoveries for this mess. Now, will anyone who can change direction and stop a knee jerk care?

Two statements from an article today about Washington and Briton sum it up for me, which I commented on in another thread but find relevant for this one as well:

They want the UN to convince them that Assad did not order this attack (not the usual proving he did do it). The Prime Minister than states that all hope for a meaningful response from the UN is fading because Russia opposes jumping to conclusions. I filled in some meaning on the later as what else is Russia "opposing" other than a lack of investigating.

They have made up their minds. They are working backwards on their mindset and putting barriers in the way to insure no one alters their thinking on this. If this fixatied thinking continues without attention to data that is revealing other possibilities the government may finally see an outcry from the public as it will be the last straw. The truth will come out before or after. Seems logical to make sure to get it right if your going to kill someone for a crime.

Source referred to above:
www.telegraph.co.uk...