The Seven Planes of Existence for Out of Body Souls According to Frederick Myers

reply to post by kaylaluv


That is a personal belief of mine, that we are parts of soul groups.
We travel through lifetimes interchanging roles.
Not everyone maybe,I don't know for sure, but I think a lot of people do.

I know I do and I have identified some of my own soul group.
But I can't say that is everyone's path, just what I have experienced with mine.

reply to post by kaylaluv

Could it be that there are souls who are connected somehow, and come back time and time again, experiencing new forms of relationships? Who knows...

On one level, we are our direct blood-ancestors. As seen in inherited knowledge in animals, a type of "genetic memory",...

On another level, we are a part of a soul cluster of multiple inter-connected "individual souls" as described above ("community" group-soul).

On another level, we are a part of the one soul of mankind.

On another level, we are the world, and the world is us.

On another level, we are a part of God.

On another level, but transcends all levels, All is One.

reply to post by kaylaluv


Yep! That's what I've come across in so many books I've read over the years; they all say that we come back in our own soul group, unless something "weird" happens to force us to come back into a different group.
I think this is when people feel like an outcast, like they don't belong where they are. Just my own opinion on that, but that would explain the feelings of loneliness that some people experience, even though they are surrounded with family and friends.

The Book of Ra also covers this topic.
www.llresearch.org...

reply to post by FlyersFan


yes i ve read those planes, FF
and the Vedic ones who tell the same [ as the 3d or 4th poster informs]

...but, by their nature, since they represent the 7 rays,
even the highest one is still Within the outer Ring [ if you imagine the gyroscopic universe]
- and does therefore not reach Heaven

.. - Heaven is the Domain of the Other - God -
and the soul cant impossibly "blend" there, withóut she is specifically Received by that Other

still, interesting stuff
regards,

Originally posted by ctophil
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

Good description of the Planes of existence. I did a similar description in a post I made yesterday here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Four Planes that I discussed are pretty much the same as your 7 Planes. It's just that the planes I talked about are the main areas that split up into their own sub-planes as well. Remember that these Planes are only part of the "Material Universe" or Cosmic Physical. Beyond that, we go into the "Spiritual Universe (Heaven)" or Cosmic Astral, which have their own Planes of existence. There are many, many other levels as we make our way back to the Godhead, and we change into more glorified bodies as we go.

In essence the 'numbering' system is a moot one, as you say...planes 'bleed' into other planes, reside alongside, within and concurrent with other planes....the requirement for planes at 'lower' levels is looser and based on intellectual notions we can deal with (whether we understand thier operation is another thing)...'higher' levels cannot abide lower notions - as there are 'level-specific' requirements, although the capacity for appearance within them is possible, but unlikely by force of relevance...

Å99

now this ain't a derail post... i honestly wonder




is this Frederick Myers
in any way linked to the classical Billy Meiers
~you know the guy from Switzerland that made a cottage-industry career with UFO pics & contact with a elite being~


the last names are spelt differently but that does not mean that one-didnt-inspire-the-other !


thanks---- now i will read the thread in entirity with that notion off my chest

This seems like a twist up of the Kaballah's dimensions or Buddhist dimensions.

reply to post by justarandy


If you and I begin a journey at the same point and arrive at the same end, we will have different experiences and understandings of the journey.

The "twist" is caused by the "static" of relative-subjective, human perceptions.

On "The Seven Planes of Existence"

A man discovers seven planes, and puts the one he exists within at the very bottom. Yet he remains on the bottom plane by choice. With such knowledge, why would one wait another second on the bottom plane? Perhaps he doubts the veracity of his own claims?

reply to post by FlyersFan

Some know they have died but fear moving on because of the 'bad life' they have lead and they fear Hell. So they stay on Earth.

Second plane - the Astral plane. Two main levels. The lower astral plane is dark and eerie. Buddhists call it 'Bardo'. Catholics call it 'Purgatory'. Edgar Cayce called it 'the Plane of Darkness'. Souls here are cut off from love and hope.

So, with porno physical cravings like sex being promoted everyday amongst a ever growing atheist population, who or what is going to gain when the atheists end up in a world of nothing, surrounded by darkness where fear alone will make them collapse to the ground. Come to think of it, it reminds me of Hades.

Now i have witnessed Hades watching a sinner literally appear, dry up, wilt and turn to dust in under 51 seconds with a look of total horror on his face. But according to what atheists say, religion is simply mind control. So who lives off the fear that spirits endure whilst they exist in Bardo ?

What happens concerning justice? Or is this a world where justice occurs as in 'those who live by the sword, die by the sword' ?
So it would make sense for a US veteran with blood on his hands to be born into the Mid-East where he suffers as a child being bombed by US weapons everyday.

I seem to have been cruising through the 3rd dimension often in dreams where I find myself back in a world that I an at home in and love being there. I know the beaches, the town areas, houses at the coast I have even caught myself thinking about how I would love to go there in the day time on rare occasions and then I have flipped back into reality wondering why I have such a desire to go there.

I have noticed these dreams come on if I get depressed and wonder if some kind of pull is being exerted on my soul? Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Great post and certainly food for thought. I haven't read the Ra book etc but I have read about some of this in others. Myers comes from a time when spiritualism and other wider religious and occult views' were very popular. Today people have so many distractions and many seem to get so tired that instead of having the time for thinking, we watch tv, play electrical games and general do anything but actually relaxation and quiet thinking.

reply to post by Shiloh7


Maybe you should try this and see if it is a past-life memory?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by CaticusMaximus


You are true. A brother of mine if you will, in being and thought. Judging by your words.

This is what we all need to hear, constantly. By bidding these words to our brethren we ignite that spark of knowing oneself and to know that which we prefer to define as God. Which as you say "I Am" is in us and we in him if we believe that and have a pure heart in all that we do.

You have an excellent way of putting the dogmas pushed through all religions aside and tell the quantum mechanic explanation which is at the very core of every what we call religious text today.

Keep on saying what your saying, love/care, believe (make manifest) and hope at all times brother.
Bless you.

reply to post by St Udio

I don't think so. I can't say 'no' for sure ... but I really highly doubt that there is any connection.

reply to post by Darkblade71


Did you open a thread on this Darkblade..because i faintly remember a thread was opened on this earlier while you were drawing this painting ....

These demonic dogs and beasts,..... scary stuff ....i wonder what explanation can there be for such an existence of such scary beasts and creatures...

reply to post by maddy21


Yeah, I made a few threads on this painting as I learned more and more about what happened. It has several aspects to it from art to sub-conscious imagery to spirit contact, and psychic trauma.


Good question of the "demon dogs". I am not sure why these things exist. I do know from my experience with them that they are intelligent and very dark,cruel and hungry. It was a very fast experience, ;lasted only a minute or two before I came back to consciousness, but in that time, I got a good feel that they are runners and chasers, much like wolves, but very twisted in their thinking, they like to make things suffer.

reply to post by FlyersFan

The Catholic church doesn't talk about all these planes, but some of what is being said is similar to St. John of the Cross and St. Teresa of Avila, etc)

Go figure!!!! The Christian Mystics were right all along. Redemption sure is sweet!!!!!

You can also experience this while still inhabiting a body on the Earth realms. See link in my signature

Seventh Plane - Plane of the Spirit Realm - The domain of God (or the Creator). The soul here looses form and becomes One with God.

See my signature: Also explains how to experience that, while still here. It's Buddhahood, Christhood, Union, Enlightenment.

When Christ said, "I and the Father are One," he was referring to the direct experience which is accessible to all

This is so vague and broad that you can easily find yourself in one of the planes. Not saying this is made vague and broad, it's just that people are vague and broad about existence. This is very open to your own interpretation.

I can find interpretation in the Astral plane for example. I have been in a time when I felt intense void and sadness.
I call it my breaking point, the destruction of my identity, the death of the Phoenix. Afterwards I felt enlightenment. The stages I went through remind me of the progress of the brainwashing technique. See, how it works, brainwashing.

Did I go to the brainwashing progress? Possibly. But, I could simply interpret it as if I went through it.

reply to post by Sump3


Thank you. Im glad others can come to the same conclusion.

For the dogmas... I might suspect they are all based on the fundamental truth of "I am", and some, long ago, saw to it to try and teach it to others. But as the mortal body dies and the spirit goes elsewhere, if those founders of religions were not successful in teaching what they knew, then religion becomes what it has today; a blind, rigid faith, with words to be taken literally, rather than truth to be understood through metaphor, since the truth literally cannot be spoken. Only a rough, general idea can be given. An individual has to find the truth themselves, ultimately.

I dont concern myself with quantum mechanics at the moment. Ive heard it points to some things that I believe more than once, but you cant get to the truth with "evidence", or math, or "objective" measurements. It makes sense because the facet of truth that is quantum mechanics, we are all acclimated to having grown up in Western society. That facet being "science", and we are all very familiar with it, so much so that many people cannot even imagine there being any other method of obtaining truth.

But it is one facet of an infinite number. No facet is either right or wrong, just different; the view through each unique, but ultimately leading to the same place.

Everyone seeks truth, and all paths eventually lead to it. No one will be forgotten; no one lost. Redemption is all our destiny.

Originally posted by Darkblade71
reply to post by maddy21

 

Yeah, I made a few threads on this painting as I learned more and more about what happened. It has several aspects to it from art to sub-conscious imagery to spirit contact, and psychic trauma.


Good question of the "demon dogs". I am not sure why these things exist. I do know from my experience with them that they are intelligent and very dark,cruel and hungry. It was a very fast experience, ;lasted only a minute or two before I came back to consciousness, but in that time, I got a good feel that they are runners and chasers, much like wolves, but very twisted in their thinking, they like to make things suffer.

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It's quite interesting that these demon dogs that you speak of were explained by Thoth aka Hermes in his Emerald Tablets as being the guardians of this dimension that will literally chase you down and consume your soul if you allow them to see you.

I found it, tablet 8.
www.crystalinks.com...

Here is the passage:
" List ye, O man,
to the depth of my wisdom.
Speak I of knowledge hidden from man.
Far have I been
on my journey through SPACE-TIME,
even to the end of space of this cycle.
Aye, glimpsed the HOUNDS of the Barrier,
lying in wait for he who would pass them.
In that space where time exists not,
faintly I sensed the guardians of cycles.
Move they only through angles.
Free are they not of the curved dimensions.

Strange and terrible
are the HOUNDS of the Barrier.
Follow they consciousness to the limits of space.
Think not to escape by entering your body,
for follow they fast the Soul through angles.
Only the circle will give ye protection,
save from the claws
of the DWELLERS IN ANGLES.

Once, in a time past,
I approached the great Barrier,
and saw on the shores where time exists not,
the formless forms
of the HOUNDS of the barrier.
Aye, hiding in the midst beyond time I found them;
and THEY, scenting me afar off,
raised themselves and gave the great bell cry
that could be heard from cycle to cycle
and moved through space toward my soul.

Fled I then fast before them,
back from time's unthinkable end.
But ever after me pursued they,
moving in strange angles not known to man.
Aye, on the gray shores of TIME-SPACE'S end
found I the HOUNDS of the Barrier,
ravening for the Soul
who attempts the beyond.

Fled I through circles back to my body.
Fled, and fast after me they followed.
Aye, after me the devourers followed,
seeking through angles to devour my Soul.

Aye, know ye man,
that the Soul who dares the Barrier
may be held in bondage
by the HOUNDS from beyond time,
held till this cycle is completed
and left behind
when the consciousness leaves."