An image of Comet Ison or is it really a comet?

Originally posted by NowanKenubi
reply to post by intrptr

 

Maybe aliens are hiding behind natural phenomenons like a hunter will disguise himself as a bush?

No, I have no proof... lol

Can't they just cloak and not draw attention to themselves that way? Why leave a trail of smoke, like (lol) here we are!

Originally posted by abeverage
Just found a proposal that Comet ISON may have broke up!

www.stsci.edu...

Here's what's funny about that.

When pictures come out that suggests a strange anomaly or something otherworldly, several people will com out and give every possible explanation as to why it looks the way it does and that it's not really what we are seeing. These people will often swear up and down that they are right and are so completely sure that no other explanation can possibly replace it.

But then, sometimes, there is a rational and grounded explanation that tells us that, yes, what we are seeing in the photo is real but it is really _______ and not what you thought. Then those very same people suddenly accept that new explanation even though it counters the one they were just swearing by!

So let's take this example. ISON looks like a giant something. People swear that you are not looking at "something" but actually a result of how it was filmed. So it can't be anything but a comet? No, it's just the way it was filmed. Oh, but could it have split up into different parts? Well, yeah, in that case, the picture is legit.

Just watch. It happens with a lot of things.

Originally posted by gotya

Originally posted by intrptr
I have a question...

If its an alien ship why is it throwing out a "comet tail" like that?

Of course that would be the exhaust - maybe it didn't pass the emissions test.

Aliens that make "emissions" that draw our attention. Good disguise.

I have a question for everyone claiming it is an alien spaceship.

Have you ever seen an alien spaceship to know what an alien spaceship would look like?

reply to post by Yummy Freelunch


Well he finally did it!
E.T. phoned home, and the call went through.



Jokes aside, great find YFL!
I subscribed to your thread and will follow it until November, I heard that's when this 'comet' will be more visible.

Ps: I read all explanations and still find it hard to believe it's a comet.
S&F

Great Thread! I love this kind of thing. What's more I love the fact that it's still unexplained. Comet? Maybe. Something else? Also Maybe.

Originally posted by Jahari
Wow that's amazing. Question. Why do we assume ufo's have or need headlights? Could those three lines be denser parts of the ice that's possibly reflecting more light? I am by no means a expert or novice for that matter. If someone don't come along and make sense of this I may lose my cool. Its freaking spooky.

edit on 18-8-2013 by Jahari because: (no reason given)

Why would we assume they're "headlights". For all we know the lights on the front of an alien's craft are for mind-reading or gravity-negation. Who knows what the parts of an extra-terrestrial's craft would do? Assigning earthly functions to such things seems ridiculous.

Originally posted by abeverage
Just found a proposal that Comet ISON may have broke up!

www.stsci.edu...

The best explanation yet but then I'm no expert.

Don't like the idea that we might have multiple objects speeding towards us as opposed to one. What effect would a break up have on trajectory?

@Yummy Freelunch good catch!

Whatever is happening with Ison it's fascinating/worth keeping an eye on. Shoemaker levy breaking up immediately came to mind. Those pieces hit pretty hard.

Typical, no one took note of my reply.

I said it's likely the telescope's CROSS-HAIR. The picture might be perspective corrected so the cross hair doesn't appear with the right angles.

Prove me wrong.

reply to post by NeoParadigm


I owe you an apology the images found here

Do not correspond to the images and data on the mission 13299 track although they are under the same track???

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed


I don't speak telescope, so can you explain this comment to me in kindergarten persepective?

reply to post by NeoParadigm


aha ... Ive no idea if that is far enough or close enough .... but that is cosmically close in the scheme of things .... just done a search ... say its near Saturn ... Saturn is 1.6 billion KM ( 1,600,000K KM) away and the earth is roughly 120K KM across ... my maths could be out but thats equivalent to 2 cameras 1M apart taking a picture of something 13KM away .... that seems far enough away to me ... but Im just guessing

arghhh!!! ive just read its near Mars ....distance to Mars 225M KM .... it then works out that 2 cameras 1M apart taking a picture of something 2KM away .... HHHmmmmmm ... I have even less idea now than before cos that seems quite close ...

reply to post by abeverage


I appreciate that buddy.

Don't know what to make of all these pics and dates and times, or lack thereoff, either.

Here are some facts about ISON

Update August 10,2013 - There are 110 days, until perihelion of Comet ISON
Perihelion is due to occur on 28 November 2013, at 18:40:47 UTC
(Perihelion time via JPL - updated on August 7, 2013)

Comet ISON is currently
233,829,879 miles (2.515495 AU)
from the Sun, and travelling at
59,513.74 mph (26.61 km/s)

Earth Distance: 321,529,265 miles (3.458948 AU)
Constellation: Cancer

On August 10th, the time projected (tp) value calculated by NASA for perihelion (closest to the sun) was 2013-Nov-28.77833189. That's the equivalent of November 28, 2013 at 18:40:47 UTC.

ISON's size is only estimated at present but is thought to be around a few miles in diameter. This will become more apparent in the next few months as the comet continues its approach during 2013. Astronomers who have been processing data from NASA's Swift satellite, estimate the comet to be around 3 miles in diameter. They have reached this conclusion by observing the amount of ice and dust emitted from ISON's surface as it falls through space toward the Sun

ISON is currently between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, but from Earth's perspective, it appears behind the Sun's glare. ISON entered the Sun's glare back in June and should become observable by NASA's equipment in mid-August or early September at the latest. It's projected that it will become visible to the naked eye by early to mid-November.

ISON's average speed throughout August will be 60,462mph. It will continue to accelerate steadily until 28th November when it'll whip around our Sun at an astonishing 425,000mph!


Perihelion & Distance: LIVE Information

Originally posted by tombaccei
reply to post by abeverage

 

Go here to the Ison mission page:
archive.stsci.edu...

at bottom click Phase II Observing Program which gets you here:
www.stsci.edu...

Read the descriptions of the various images created. The one with a total of 8 171 second images is
F350P, NOT the same images, which are F606W and F814W obtained 30 April, 2013 on totally different dates,

Note in the hubble instructions for F606W and F814W that the images alternate, first a 606 then a 814, 606, 814, 616 which exactly corresponds to the "anomalies".

Since the stars are effectively an infinite distance away, there will NEVER be any apparent motion from frame to frame over any length of exposure unless the telescopes orientation changes, which it does not. Only things relatively close to the device will show any parallax movement as the orbit changes the viewing location.

These are merely five frames which clearly depict the expected sinusoidal time lapse images of the comet as seen from different points in the telescopes orbit.

I realized my mistake and I stand corrected. I still think the exposure times are close to the same and that this is not being caused by parallax.


I am still wondering where the exposure times for the last 8 of this set are...

Please note the cross-hair pointing out the target of the image.

HOWEVER - this does not explain that in the images the cross hair seems to be surrounded by dust.

Cool pic, but the conglomerate Hubble photo explanation found by Tsurfer200h several pages ago works.

I remember the Halebop fun back in the late 90's and the idiocy it spawned... and trolling the believers in the spaceship hiding behind the comet was entertaining... until Heaven's Gate spoiled it all.

See, it starts with spaceships... and then weirdos claim insider knowledge, followed by castration and cyanide kool-aid death... sigh.

Someday we might see an interstellar generation ship come sailing in... unfortunately, it ain't today. Besides, they probably paint their ships black for stealth... unless they're the Liberace's of space. And also, it seems someone besides us is already here in sol system.

But who knows... maybe the moon will release it's inertial parking brakes and sail off tomorrow to join the factory ships around Jupiter... at this point it wouldn't surprise me... much.

Originally posted by filledcup

Originally posted by intrptr
I have a question...

If its an alien ship why is it throwing out a "comet tail" like that?

it's a comet that was converted into an alien ship?

u asked.. i answered lol what?

Good disguise. Attract every telescope on earth. Hey look at the comet thats really a ship that the hi tech aliens forgot we have telescopes and would see their little ploy.

Originally posted by NeoParadigm
reply to post by abeverage

 

I appreciate that buddy.

Don't know what to make of all these pics and dates and times, or lack thereoff, either.

Yep, when I am wrong (rarely LOL) I have no problem admitting it. I still want to find the exposure times and I still disagree with the parallax conclusion. Also those images are not stacked, they could be longer exposures but they are not a composite.

Originally posted by Malynn
Great Thread! I love this kind of thing. What's more I love the fact that it's still unexplained. Comet? Maybe. Something else? Also Maybe.

Originally posted by Jahari
Wow that's amazing. Question. Why do we assume ufo's have or need headlights? Could those three lines be denser parts of the ice that's possibly reflecting more light? I am by no means a expert or novice for that matter. If someone don't come along and make sense of this I may lose my cool. Its freaking spooky.

edit on 18-8-2013 by Jahari because: (no reason given)

Why would we assume they're "headlights". For all we know the lights on the front of an alien's craft are for mind-reading or gravity-negation. Who knows what the parts of an extra-terrestrial's craft would do? Assigning earthly functions to such things seems ridiculous.

It would be far better for this to be some kind of photographic anomaly, or a comet breaking up than for it to be an extraterrestrial craft.

IF it is, the fact that they are attempting to conceal their approach disguised as a comet reveals that their intentions are NOT GOOD.

Great pic, but I still believe that truly advanced ET's use portals instead of traversing millions or billions of light years in space.

Unless this particular instance they have already done that and are just waiting there.