Egypt considers outlawing Muslim Brotherhood

reply to post by mideast


What a minute, I'm a shining light of ignorance because I don't support the Muslim Brotherhood or because you think I'm a "typical" westerner who hates all brown Muslims?

Either way, I could say you share the same light, my friend.

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I'm well aware so no offense taken, but I am curious how you came to that conclusion.

Just now realized I didn't post the source of the news article in the OP.

Doh!

apnews.myway.com...

Originally posted by mideast
reply to post by wrabbit2000

 

1-The truth is that we can not say what Egyptians want because we don't live there. WE just see the news and some translator chopping the truth.

2- I don't support any side because they know themselves better than I do.

3-Our ideas about what Egyptian think are only speculations unless we see result of some election.

4-Military is killing people on one side and letting others live. And the clear point is that they are killing the people who voted the elected president.

5-Another fact is that Military people are mostly stone hearted people , they don't care what people want.


if you see that they are just killing people on one side of the conflict , it seems that they are following some agenda.

So these are basic facts that are there , and people leave them behind and support the military.

And in reality , they support these events which they don't like to happen about themselves.

The MB are may be forces aligned with The Dark Cabal and the military of Egypt are currently battling the evil forces aligned with the Cabal. Here it is: 2012portal.blogspot.com...

"A Short Update on the Situation in Egypt and Planetary Situation in General
The historical move of the Positive Military on July 3rd was a big victory of the Light, but the Cabal does not sleep. They are still sending their Blackwater/Xe/Academi snipers to Egypt where they try to create civil war by shooting members of the more peaceful faction of Muslim Brotherhood protestors so that the Positive Military would be blamed.

The Cabal is also coordinating and organizing more violent faction of Muslim Brotherhood militias to attack churches and police stations in Egypt"

I believe the biggest problem is that the Muslim Brotherhood wants to start a war with Israel.

The Egyptian military does not want to die in a useless war with Israel.

Because of this the military has to take out the Muslim Brotherhood.

Sorry, but we talk all day long on this website about verifiable info, in particular about events overseas.....
Are there any Egyptians here commenting? If not, I'm not sure any of us can deduce exactly,even, what's happening there.....except there was a destabilization of the Middle East some time ago. They call it a "spring" or a "surge,"militarily, but it doesn't seem like it's "spread much freedom," yet...unless it's the freedom to die, while just trying to survive the latest coup d'etat.

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I just know that you would have 180 dgree opposite idea if it was in America.

As how you intentionally interpret the event like the media is telling you

like :

People are joining military
military is not hard hearten people
anti-morsi protestors are more
election result is manipulated
All Egyptians are coming to the streets and that is why anti-morsi people are more
Morsi protesters are trying to kill the soldiers

And we don't disagree. You insist on what media is telling you. I say I am not sure about what media is feeding.

I just know that you would have 180 dgree opposite idea if it was in America.

The truth is that west was not happy about Egyptians revolution and is playing like they know what majority of Egyptian think to hijack their revolution.

unfortunately , Egypt does not have a leader to guide them to stand united. Unity and independence are key elements that western govt are afraid of.

Originally posted by Swills

I don't support Islamist so be gone with you Brotherhood, back to the shadows you go!

It's okay, your opinion on another nation's religious affairs doesn't matter anyway.

What, so because YOU don't support it, they shouldn't have any bearing on political affairs? hahaha please, you're one person. Speaking from a completely irrelevant country.

Let the egyptian people make their decision. You're just reporting on a story.

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by mideast

 

What a minute, I'm a shining light of ignorance because I don't support the Muslim Brotherhood or because you think I'm a "typical" westerner who hates all brown Muslims?

Either way, I could say you share the same light, my friend.

Where did I ever say brown ?

Good I say, this is the same group who tried to take control of the Egyptian Govt and instill Sharia Law.

It is the opinion of Egyptians which can tell if they like Sharia or not.

No western greedy imperialist bully warmonger govt.

Originally posted by xxdaniel21

Originally posted by Swills

I don't support Islamist so be gone with you Brotherhood, back to the shadows you go!

It's okay, your opinion on another nation's religious affairs doesn't matter anyway.

What, so because YOU don't support it, they shouldn't have any bearing on political affairs? hahaha please, you're one person. Speaking from a completely irrelevant country.

Let the egyptian people make their decision. You're just reporting on a story.

And the best thing they can do is surfing on the waves when they can.

That is typical of people who where born to be opportunist. Maybe not much rich , but opportunist to follow carrot.

Now they follow the carrot and in events such as 9/11 it was stick.

It is old rabbit-carrot-stick strategy.

Originally posted by mideast
Sorry if I ruined this , but I want to emphasize on another matter.

Aren't you the same people who were saying 99% movement should be going because it is hurting the economy ?

How comes that you are enjoying when you see people in another country are fighting and getting killed ? getting their economy collapsed , their international face corrupted ?

Isn't this because you are double faced ?

What are you exactly ?

this is pretty easy...
the muslim brotherhood was given a chance to rule because all the good deeds they did in the individual neighborhoods, so the Egyptian people democratically elected morsi...after morsi took power, he turned the government into a radical islamist one, by eliminating rights that had been gained by ousting Mubarec. the people of Egypt do not want that...they wanted morsi to work toward getting more jobs for people, getting food supplies to more people, work with other nations to grow the economy...morsi wanted none of it, he set about imposing strict Islamic rule...the MB had it's chance at governance, and their true nature was revealed to all Egyptians...now the people and the military want them out....

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Morsi is a puppet to the U.S, and the Egyptians people realize this. No Egyptian want to see its country turn into another Afghanistan.

Originally posted by LevelEleven
reply to post by mideast

 

Morsi is a puppet to the U.S, and the Egyptians people realize this. No Egyptian want to see its country turn into another Afghanistan.

a puppet of the U.S.???.....by imposing strict Islamic rule? by getting rid of peoples representatives in the Egyptian parliament? I think the muslim brotherhood leaders were either influenced by, or were controlled by al queda. we here in the west have many friends in Egypt, who are good people, that want to be able to practice the Islamic religion, but still have freedom from the Islamic extremists

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Good job, you can deduce what an opinion is but the Egyptian miltary, government, & majority of its people are also against the MB. You do realize they've been outlawed already in the past right?

People who, I guess, support the MB on this site love to bring up that they were democratically elected but truth is in 2012 the only options were the MB or Murbarak 2.0. Voter turn out was fairly low. Egypt's choice between two evils didn't bring in record numbers to the voting booths that it should've bein that they just overthrew their long standing dictator and all...

So you have your opinion and I have mine. That's correct.

reply to post by mideast


So not just Middle Eastern Muslims, you think I'm a westerner who hates all Muslims? Either way, your ignorance shines!

It's of the opinion of the Egyptians whether they like Sharia Law or not? Well duh! Did you think I was making up Egypt's mind for them? Whatever the case, the Egyptians made up their minds and don't want it because they protested against it. In fact, they've been protesting against Morsi & the MB pretty much since they took power.

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Mideast, I know this may come as a real shock to you and cause a double take ...but not everyone here relies on the Major Media as their sole source of information. You say twice that I just believe what the media presents. Well, No. I absolutely do NOT "just believe" what the media says.

Having now seen several of these in my lifetime, I'm starting to get a feel for the meaning to what we're seeing ..but that's hunch and a downright sad statement that anyone alive could have seen enough of these to say that. Too much turmoil.

However, my opinions on an event like this are from Media AND a great deal more in background, feeds out of the nation itself from the people living there and of course, the running history and documented conduct of the two sides involved.

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Now on the military side? Their history is one of limited force to minimal force. That history has been built over the unrest and chaos in the streets which has come before. Twice before, since Mubarak fell. They haven't resorted to shooting people until the people the were facing resorted to burning down Churches, shooting at the Military and trying to destroy the Egyptian Government, one building at a time.

The Muslim Brotherhood side? THEIR Documented background is much clearer. They've assassinated one Egyptian leader. Attempted to assassinate 2 others...repeatedly..and made ABSOLUTELY NO bones about two things. Israel has to go (this isn't how peace is maintained...as my only concern there) and Islamic Law IS their end game. Well... Egypt told them where to shove their strict Islamist lifestyle.

Good for them.

*** Also... If this were happening in America I could only HOPE and PRAY the U.S. Military would do what the Egyptian Military has done. I know enough people in the military and have across my life to have NO FEAR from the average U.S. Soldier. I DO have every reason to fear Jihadi Radicals. US Soldiers don't cut people's heads off with dull knives. Jihadis do...and actually seemed to enjoy it as they did it. Each time.

Good for them, with everything going wrong over
there, i think its a wise decision.

Now if only USA was smart enough to do the same.
Because if they cant go there, they are going to send
more here.

When will Egyptians realize that Islam gives nothing, but false promises and leaves nothing, but broken dreams.

Once great civilizations and cultures will be reduced to ruin all for the pursuit of vain glory and selfish arrogance. Memories of a people lost in time will be forgotten, remembered only in passing.

interesting thread
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Originally posted by arcturus7
When will Egyptians realize that Islam gives nothing, but false promises and leaves nothing, but broken dreams.

Once great civilizations and cultures will be reduced to ruin all for the pursuit of vain glory and selfish arrogance. Memories of a people lost in time will be forgotten, remembered only in passing.

Hold on. Why just limit this master advice to just Egypt? In fact all around the world Islam has been spading hatred and promoting jihad. They want the world to function the way islam likes it to be.

It has been said that countries with less the 2% Islamic population are blessed with peace, e.g. Australia