Egypt considers outlawing Muslim Brotherhood

Outlawing the Muslim Brotherhood? Looks like the MB are once again going to be a group that deals in the shadows and behind closed doors. Good I say, this is the same group who tried to take control of the Egyptian Govt and instill Sharia Law. They only backed down because of the constant protests from the Egyptian people who always greatly outnumbered the MB supporters.

CAIRO (AP) - Egyptian authorities are considering disbanding the Muslim Brotherhood group, a government spokesman said Saturday, once again outlawing a group that held the pinnacle of government power just more than a month earlier.
The announcement comes after security forces broke up two sit-in protests this week by those calling for the reinstatement of President Mohammed Morsi, a Brotherhood leader deposed in a July 3 coup. The clashes killed more than 600 people that day and sparked protests and violence that killed 173 people Friday alone.
Cabinet spokesman Sherif Shawki said that Prime Minister Hazem el-Beblawi, who leads the military-backed government, assigned the Ministry of Social Solidarity to study the legal possibilities of dissolving the group. He didn't elaborate.
The Muslim Brotherhood group, founded in 1928, came to power a year ago when its Morsi was elected in the country's first free presidential elections. The election came after the overthrow of autocrat Hosni Mubarak in a popular uprising in 2011.

I don't support Islamist so be gone with you Brotherhood, back to the shadows you go!

Yikes.

That's a problem right there.

There is still a lot of support for them in Egypt whether I agree with it or not.

Seems like the military is hoping for a civil war at this point.

~Tenth

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Yeah unfortunately with all the Islamist and straight up terrorists they will always have support. I dunno if the military is looking to go to war with the Islamist, but with or without these protests the military is rooting out the terrorist cells, more so than when Morsi was in power.

Even if they become outlawed they will always continue to exist and have their numbers. I'm sure all Islamist all over the Middle East support them. So the war on terror continues.

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I don't particularly consider all 'Islamist s' to be part of the problem, just the insane ones. Like I do for any extremist group.

You're right about them moving on and being there still though. There are plenty of other places in the world that support extremist ideology.

~Tenth

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I don't know if I consider all Islamists to the be the problem, they are definitely apart of the problem since they are always going to be associated with terrorists. That said, that doesn't mean all Islamists are terrorists but I get the feeling they aren't denouncing said terrorism.

Libya is another nation where the MB are trying to take control of but thank god the Libyan people standing up against them. It's been a while since I checked in on them so I'm not sure how much progress they are making against the MB. If Assad falls you can bet Syria is on the MB's to-do list. I wonder if they're in Iraq as well? Probably right?

Muslim Brotherhood back in Iraq

In present day Iraq, the Iraqi Muslim Brotherhood is trying to create an official body separate from the Iraqi Islamic Party established by the Sunni Arabs. Since 2003, the Iraqi Islamic Party has only been involved in politics. For this reason, the Muslim Brotherhood filed an official application in order to become eligible for non-political activities in Iraq. The Brotherhood has already been organized in all the provinces of Iraq including Mosul, Anbar, Basra and the Azamiye district of Baghdad. A 78-member of Advisory Council has been set up, an executive body of five members chosen from the council membership, and a president was elected. Within the Iraqi Kurdish Regional Administration, the Muslim Brotherhood has a separate organizational structure; the Kurdistan Islamic Union (Yekgirtu) is an extension of the Iraqi Muslim Brotherhood. They want to open an office in Istanbul as well.

Dammit.

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Good for them.

Egypt needs to get rid of their religious zealots in order to become a "serious" country.
IMO secularism is an essential step towards true and lasting freedom and independence for the people.

Welcome to the present, Egypt.

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My only problem with Islam is that moderates, much like any other group are shutting their mouths, as opposed to telling the extremists that they don't represent them.

So yeah, I get your point

~Tenth

As a human , it is shameful to see people divided and protesting against each other.

As a Muslim , it is shameful to see that people are renewing the history.

It took so long for Egyptians to reconsider about Mobarak as western puppet and they will reconsider about the next puppet tens of years later.



For the OP.

It is typical from a western human to seek it's interests no matter what the price of getting that interest is. And it is also typical the hate of Muslims and their laws.

Why ?

Because you are taught to hate no matter what.

Sometimes I don't like people around me because they impose their idea. But I think you are very imposing. You are so dictator that you impose your idea on the people who you don't even know.

Common , your knowledge is shining and the ignorance in me is gone.

Just keep on shining.

Sorry if I ruined this , but I want to emphasize on another matter.

Aren't you the same people who were saying 99% movement should be going because it is hurting the economy ?

How comes that you are enjoying when you see people in another country are fighting and getting killed ? getting their economy collapsed , their international face corrupted ?

Isn't this because you are double faced ?

What are you exactly ?

I'm thinking outlawing them is just a technical formality when they are being hunted and shot almost on sight, depending on which ones and how vicious the fighting right now. They are illegal by defacto reality ...this just puts it on paper.

Why not, too? They HAVE been outlawed in Egypt until 2011. They've actively worked to murder every Egyptian leader back and beyond the 1950's and DID assassinate Anwar Saddat for the nerve of making peace with Israel. Real peace loving people there, eh?

They may as well outlaw them again. Giving them the chance to function in the open was tried. It was an interesting experiment but a fatal one for FAR too many in the end. When hate is the currency of the realm, the regime needs changed. As Egypt managed to just do with a little help from their military.

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Originally posted by mideast
It is typical from a western human to seek it's interests no matter what the price of getting that interest is. And it is also typical the hate of Muslims and their laws.

See, the Egyptian people themselves don't want Muslim laws for their country.

That's why they gathered in the largest demonstration in history.

Allegedly 14 million people took to the streets to stop the Muslim Brotherhood from implementing sharia-law... pretty clear message, don't you think?

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Thanks for teaching the ability to twist the truth.

So , I think it is fair to ask you wish that some American people and army do the same against American people.

Amen.

Originally posted by ColCurious
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Originally posted by mideast
It is typical from a western human to seek it's interests no matter what the price of getting that interest is. And it is also typical the hate of Muslims and their laws.

See, the Egyptian people themselves don't want Muslim laws for their country.

That's why they gathered in the largest demonstration in history.

Allegedly 14 million people took to the streets to stop the Muslim Brotherhood from implementing sharia-law... pretty clear message, don't you think?

Thank you western guy who could translate their demands and for copunting the numbers.

And thanks for comparing the number with other numbers and saying it is largest.

Did you do that our you just accepted what the spoon gave you ?

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What do you feel I twisted here? I'm intrigued given your own background and personal interest in regional events over there. If you figure I'm twisting something to describe how Jihadis have used Mosques at times in the past, all over the region? I'll be happy to supply video and written evidence of that. Plenty of both. They do these things but don't much care about covering anything up afterward. Why should they I suppose....people just shrug their shoulders if it doesn't impact them directly anyway.

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Originally posted by mideast

Thank you western guy who could translate their demands and for copunting the numbers.

And thanks for comparing the number with other numbers and saying it is largest.

Did you do that our you just accepted what the spoon gave you ?

If my information is wrong or I've misunderstood, please do enlighten me.

What did the mayority of Egyptian people really want for their nation?

Why did they kick out Mursi and the Muslim Brotherhood, if not for acting against the peoples interests?

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1-The truth is that we can not say what Egyptians want because we don't live there. WE just see the news and some translator chopping the truth.

2- I don't support any side because they know themselves better than I do.

3-Our ideas about what Egyptian think are only speculations unless we see result of some election.

4-Military is killing people on one side and letting others live. And the clear point is that they are killing the people who voted the elected president.

5-Another fact is that Military people are mostly stone hearted people , they don't care what people want.


if you see that they are just killing people on one side of the conflict , it seems that they are following some agenda.

So these are basic facts that are there , and people leave them behind and support the military.

And in reality , they support these events which they don't like to happen about themselves.

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If my information is wrong or I've misunderstood, please do enlighten me.

What did the mayority of Egyptian people really want for their nation?

Why did they kick out Mursi and the Muslim Brotherhood, if not for acting against the peoples interests?

Even Egyptians don't know what the majority want before they do some election.(like in any country)

And even if I lived there I couldn't tell because of this reason.

Morsi is not in the office , but who kicked him out and how ? That needs time and study and answering to these question:

1-but who kicked him out ? the majority ? the military ? the minority ?

2-How could you say that ?

3-Is that right or wrong ?

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So you don't know either... and you can't provide anything contrary to the information I have?

I do agree that they should have elections to sort out what they really want though.

Until then, the Egyptian people have my best wishes on their path towards a secular society.

Originally posted by mideast
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1-The truth is that we can not say what Egyptians want because we don't live there. WE just see the news and some translator chopping the truth.

22 million signing the petition to see Morsi removed peacefully ...then 8+ million celebrating under fireworks in the Cairo streets when he was removed and arrested is a pretty clear indication of the feelings of the people. If it's not, then what possibly could be used to gauge the mood of a population?

2- I don't support any side because they know themselves better than I do.

I can see not 'taking a side' in an active way, even if you could. However, not even taking a side in personal conviction and belief in what is right or wrong? Yikes.. This has been an ongoing event now since Mubarak went down. If we don't each know enough by now to choose a side among mere opinions? I don't know what to say.

3-Our ideas about what Egyptian think are only speculations unless we see result of some election.

See above about 22 million and then 8+ Million. Those weren't elections but short of it? The best indicator the world could have asked for ,..and given the level of fraud in elections the world over? perhaps a MORE accurate one at that. You can't invent warm bodies out in the streets. You can invent votes.

4-Military is killing people on one side and letting others live. And the clear point is that they are killing the people who voted the elected president.

We're watching two very different events or from radically opposed positions. The Egyptian Military is attempting to arrest members of and put down a growing insurrection. Now as another post mentioned...The Military really had 2 choices. They could face thousands or even 10's of thousands of Morsi supporters willing to fight or they could face MILLIONS of Egyptians ALSO willing to fight, as we're now seeing citizens joining along side military units in the streets to assist. I think the Military chose wisely, myself.

5-Another fact is that Military people are mostly stone hearted people , they don't care what people want.

...and your extensive experience with the individuals who make up the Egyptian Military comes from..where exactly? Or are you just generalizing everyone in the world who wears the Uniform of their nation's armed forces?

if you see that they are just killing people on one side of the conflict , it seems that they are following some agenda.

When one side is trying to kill you, you shoot back or you stand there and die. The Muslim Brotherhood chose the terms, place and nature of this fight. The Egyptians were quite content to whap people with those sticks until M.B. protesters took it to a WHOLE new level with long rifles and gunfire meant to KILL Egyptians. Then protest became urban warfare ...and the military damn sure didn't start it this time. They've had previous unrest to show that side if it were their true colors and they've never done it. It took being shot AT to shoot BACK.

So these are basic facts that are there , and people leave them behind and support the military.

This is your interpretation of facts and on at least one point, pure personal opinion. As are my own statements. We disagree. Very strongly, indeed.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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I don't particularly consider all 'Islamist s' to be part of the problem, just the insane ones. Like I do for any extremist group.

You're right about them moving on and being there still though. There are plenty of other places in the world that support extremist ideology.

~Tenth

No offense but the majority of the Egyptian people do not support the Muslim Brotherhood.