Attorney For Whistleblower: 400 U.S. Surface-to-Air Missiles Stolen In Benghazi

Certainly horrible news if true and I see no reason not to believe it at this time. A coordinated attack on the air transport system would be devastating, especially now when economies are weak.
I'm sure the West has put millions of dollars on the street offering to buy back these weapons. Lets pray they take the money!

reply to post by NotAnAspie


I really don't think ANYONE in our government (US) would intentionally give up surface to air missiles to fuel an already tenuous position over there. I guess I'm Nieve.

That's a lot of SAM's to go poof.

This was not an accident.

I also believe that all of this al Qaeda related nonsense that has been going on reeks of the CIA spooks.

Fear, murder, and death are the only reliable way to keep men on their knees.

"What difference, at this point, does it make?"

People should quote this until the missiles come home to roost.

And we thought the retarded public gaffes were George W.'s forte...

Originally posted by rickymouse
Seems kind of odd that we are just hearing of this.

Seems kind of odd that there wouldn't be better protection of that kind of arsenal. Boy, when our government messes up, they know how to cover up well. Why even have those missiles there if there isn't enough people to protect them.

I'm going to keep an eye on this thread to see if there is more verification that will be emerging. It is nice to see multiple sources.

edit on 12-8-2013 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)

they didn't mess up, just like they didn't mess up in fast n furious, they sold them black market style and claimed they were stolen and now that people are finding out more of this cover up they are in need of more lies to cover their tracks. my theory anyway...

Makes perfect sense to me. In an atmosphere where the government is running out of funds and cutting budgets where do our spooks turn for undocumented black budget funds. Maybe a lil opium a few missiles letting people walk free...things like that I'd figure pay quiet well. It's all about money...who wants to lose their job or live on less. If you had the ability to get away with it scott free why not right. Thats the line of thinking I see them taking and of coarse as has been pointed out it seems to achieve multiple goals.

reply to post by Dustytoad


Thanks for your comments...
And agreed on the public on purpose.

Now flashback to January, when Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., was questioning then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about the possibility that the United States was using Benghazi as a routing center to smuggle arms into other countries.

When Paul asked if the United States was involved with buying, selling or “transferring weapons to Turkey,” Clinton replied with surprise, either real or feigned, “To Turkey?” according to the Washington Examiner.

“What I’d like to know is – the annex that was close by – were they involved with procuring, buying or selling, obtaining weapons, and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries, any countries – Turkey included,” Paul said.

Clinton told Paul that he would have to ask the question of the “agency that ran the annex.” Watch the exchange between Sen. Paul and Secretary Clinton here. The relevant testimony begins at the 2:15 mark.

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This exchange always stood out.

What to do if the terrorists don't have the firepower to shoot down American aircraft, causing American public fury and a call for war, Americans give the terrorists the SAMs to shoot down American aircraft.

Oh, ya they were stolen. What were 400 sophisticated American SAMs doing over there anyways?

If true, these were not Americans but terrorists against not only America but the entire world.

reply to post by tkwasny

to do exactly what you supposed....you do know that every single one has an RFID chip in the warhead, and if its tampered with the weapon is rendered useless

reply to post by tkwasny


Its a connect the dots thing.

The television network said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

www.telegraph.co.uk... as-attacked.html
The Telegraph.uk

That television network was CNN.

Among the many secrets still yet to be told about the Benghazi mission, is just how many Americans were there the night of the attack.

A source now tells CNN that number was 35, with as many as seven wounded, some seriously.

While it is still not known how many of them were CIA, a source tells CNN that 21 Americans were working in the building known as the annex, believed to be run by the agency.

thelead.blogs.cnn.com...

reply to post by SecretFace


Saudi Arabia have recently been kindly given “the Syrian card” by the United States – with Prince Bandar once again the “Prince of the Jihad

Reported widely in the news, piece by pieces Qatar is at the forefront of supplying arms.
Arms and money.

This has undoubtedly included tacit support of the dominant radical elements among the plethora of brigades on the ground in Syria; with Jabhat al Nusra being the most obvious beneficiary of Qatari largesse. Earlier this year it was reported that the CIA had been in direct “consultation” with the Qatari Monarchys’ network of arms smugglers – run primarily from the Emir’s palace in Doha. Accordingly, it seems certain that both the CIA and Qatari intelligence were involved in an operation to ship arms stockpiles from “rebels” in Libya; to the “rebels” in Syria: both varieties of which are inextricably linked to Al Qaeda affiliates and radical Salafi-Jihadi militants GR.ca

Today, Qatari shipments have resumed with tighter controls exerted from the palace of Qatar's emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, in consultation with the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, said a senior Qatari security official.

"There's an operations room in the Emir's diwan (office complex), with representatives from every ministry sitting in that room, deciding how much money to allocate for Syria's aid," the Qatari official said.

"There's a lot of consultation with the CIA, and they help Qatar with buying and moving the weapons into Syria, but just as consultants," he said. The CIA declined to comment.

www.reuters.com...

For all the Obama administration’s vocal concern about Islamist extremists fighting in Syria, neither U.S. officials nor regional allies have taken significant action to stem the flow of jihadists to rebel ranks.The jihadist pipelines – mainly via Turkey, but also through Jordan and Iraq – are an open secret, according to interviews this month with fighters and eyewitnesses, as well as analysts……The foreign fighters would be hard to miss for Turkish and Western intelligence operatives – they stay at established safe houses, openly recruit comrades and often stand out with distinctive appearances and habits – yet there’s been no overt effort to crack down on their presence in frontier towns.

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“Essentially, Turkey is running a rat line of jihadists into Syria the same way the Syrians ran a rat line into Iraq,” said Joshua Landis, the director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma and author of the blog Syria Comment. “Turkey, with America’s blessing, is doing the same thing and we’ve done nothing to stop them. It’s a wink nod-nod situation.”……Analysts offer mixed views on why the U.S. hasn’t done more to block the jihadist routes. They argue that the pipelines are less of a priority for the administration because the jihadists aren’t targeting Americans – as they were in Iraq – that U.S. diplomats want to avoid confronting the Turks on the issue because they need Turkey’s help on other urgent regional matters and, perhaps most importantly, that the battle-skilled jihadists are a necessary evil to hasten the U.S. goal of ousting Assad.

"It's the Turks who are militarily controlling it. Turkey is the main co-ordinator/facilitator. Think of a triangle, with Turkey at the top and Saudi Arabia and Qatar at the bottom," said a Doha-based source.

US ‘anonymous officials’ have stated that US intelligence officers “helped Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia”. A procurement originally uncovered by blogger Brown Moses and released via the NYT. www.nytimes.com...

www.nytimes.com...
www.independent.co.uk...
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These type of Surface To Air missiles should be manufactured with some kind of untamperable off switch which can be activated by a satellite's signal. Lose 'em? Deactivate 'em.

reply to post by beezzer


Thanks beez, I am still looking for that Fox story, if you pop back in can you
also drop that link in, thanks!

Remember this?

Mr. Mark Thompson, Benghazi testimony May 8 2013


The description DiGenova and Mark Thompson fits with what is known about the
U.S. mission in Benghazi

The Stingers of Benghazi

Yes, and now I remember that it was reported that Chirs Stevens was buying back
stingers from al Qaeda.

Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.

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During the Libyan civil war, the United States government at least tacitly supported the Qatari effort to arm the rebels, in violation of a U.N. arms embargo. The Obama administration later learned that the weapons were going to Islamists, and acknowledged that the postwar situation of unguarded stockpiles presented an enormous security threat to the region. The CIA was the centerpiece of an effort to recover these weapons, and that was indeed a major component of what the agency was doing in Benghazi in September 2012, in part using the State Department’s facilities. During this time, a large number of weapons, including anti-aircraft missiles, were leaving Libya and arriving in Turkey en route to Syrian rebels — and the CIA had personnel in both countries assigned to monitor and assist the arms shipments. www.nationalreview.com...

reply to post by threeifbyair


If they are Stingers? They are.. Kinda.. but that's also the problem. A Stinger Missile has a major downside for the customer. Especially if the nation that supplied it isn't friendly anymore. They are battery operated and a 100% proprietary battery. When it dies, the launcher is junk. It's why the ones from the 80's were of no concern after a short period. They had toys, not weapons.

Except...Stinger cases ship with 2 batteries.....and the Jihadi fighters are known to keep things a LONG LONG time in storage conditions...just in case. I hope the new and old are not compatible or they will not have just started a new nightmare but brought new life to an old one.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Yes, Wrabbit right on the batteries... they were also supplied
likely as indicated in reports I just read that, I need to go retrieve the article.

ETA:

atwar.blogs.nytimes.com...

I recall also that a SAM took out a Syrian military aircraft; then several times
since last November.
atwar.blogs.nytimes.com... 1AA8B98BF3251FABB653

The Muhajireen Army, a group of jihadists closely tied to al Qaeda's affiliate in Syria,
the Al Nusrah Front, claimed it shot down a Syrian Army helicopter in Aleppo using what
appears to be an SAM-7 surface-to-air missile.

www.longwarjournal.org...


SAM strike on helicopter

reply to post by burntheships


Oh, Indeed. The Libyan franchise of all the ones seem to be little better than children with dangerous toys at times. In the huge document dump of cables, communications and reports the Issa committee released regarding Benghazi for the months leading up to it are security situation reports on a regular basis.

One of them described a Libyan military helicopter flying a routine shuttle run with some government supplies. Voting stuff, as I believe it was. They took fire from an Anti-Aircraft gun as they came over Benghazi. This wasn't long before our compound was destroyed. No particular reason and no one claimed credit. Just someone bored, by how the report read and figured that one was worth taking a pot shot at. Like a kid with a BB gun and no supervision.

You........don't.........say!?

I.............am....................just.........................shocked!

putting on the surprised face........

reply to post by burntheships


Actually, one of real problems with news networks today is the overuse of '… an anonymous source said …' as an excuse to print pretty much what they want or spin needed to propel a story further. Flat Earth News by journalist Nick Davies delves further into this dark journalistic practice and an interesting exercise to conduct yourself is to pick any newspaper (not 'red tops') and scan through all the articles looking for all references to 'an anonymous source' opposed to a real name.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


From what I understand is that the CIA after Gaddafi fell was rushing to secure his arsenal, probably even before the fall. So they were not really our weapons so to speak....