Monsanto and Big Food Pull Out the Big Guns

Originally posted by talklikeapirat
reply to post by Superhans

 

I think, i can see what you're doing here. In reality you're extremely pro anti-GMO and by pretending to shill for Genfood companies, insulting posters and being overall irrational, you're making 'your side of the fence' look really bad. Very clever!

Phage is doing the same thing over at his thread, his approach is more subtle, tho. But it seems to work quite well.
Keeps people on their toes. Thanks for your efforts.

edit on 9-8-2013 by talklikeapirat because: was this sarcasm?

I don't expect to be accepted by everytone. I have not been irrational, i have presented valid arguments and all i get in return is crap. People are so blinded by their bias that they only choose to see the personal attacks and ignore everything else. Notice all anyone can really say to counter my claims is that im a paid shill or just real generic "i don't care what you say, GMOs are the evils!!".

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by Superhans

 

You should it's a big issue for Murdersanto...

Again they have lawsuits pending over cross pollination going on, on non-Monsonto farms...

But hey, they are innocent

, and Superhans has dodged this one for pages now...

He don't care though...

-SAP-

I have not dodged it at all, as a matter of fact I have posted a response to just about every single post made. You and everyone else decides to ignore it. I don't know how to put it anymore simply than i really don't care about cross pollination. I'm not sure what your logic is behind this, do you think just because im not against GMOs that I should automatically care about everything that the anti-GMO masses do?

Again SuperHardon... being that every company that produces a food product is already required to provide a nutrition label listing the calories and known allergens what is your or their opposition to listing GMO's since it would cost next to nothing to add them to a label which already has to be there if not to dupe people into eating their garbage that the majority of people don't want which Monsatano is already well aware of...

reply to post by Superhans


No, again you didn't read. I had to back out because I had to sleep.

You would like to see me "quit this thread" though wouldn't you?

Sorry I won't give you that benefit.

-SAP-

reply to post by Superhans


You posted replies, but not to every point made...

Valid points none the less.... But you dodge some of the points, by tearing certain posts apart and only answering certain parts of those posts.

I bet you'll reply that you haven't done that too...

-SAP-

Originally posted by AlphaHawk
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Honestly, I don't see any assumptions there.

Like chemtrails, like fluoridation, like vaccinations, GMO's are gonna kill us all. Apparently.

The entire answer is based on a general comparison of GMO technology vs. plant breeding from what they refer to as 'technology' from generations ago and even millennia, and then conclude that there is no guarantee of "long-term health impacts" anyway

The question itself may be 'planted' since it is slightly vague.

How can you be sure that GMO foods won't affect human health long-term?

It does not specify 'harmful' effects from 'beneficial' effects. Clever.

That omission sets the stage for a loose answer.

"long-term health impacts" does not address 'harmful' or 'beneficial'.

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Ok, took a peek. Here is a winner!

We believe the harm in mandating labeling for GMO food, just because it is a GMO food,
is that such a label would convey to consumers that foods made from the farmers’ crops grown
with our seeds are less safe, less nutritious or somehow different from conventional or organic food.

Well...ummmm....Yeeesss! Brilliant decuction there: so says the giant chemical companies.

Yep, that's a duuzie.

They oppose 'mandated' labeling and spend big money to fight it but never really answer the question "WHY".

The original question could be a shill question.

Why do you spend millions of dollars opposing GMO labeling? Aren't you proud of your products? Please don't give the excuse that it will cost consumers more for labeling either - you have raised your seed prices over 230%.
the Q&A in 'question'

Sounds a wee bit on the bold side. It gets our attention, and the answer diverts our attention to forget the impact of the question. Clever.

Here's an article with some interest points.

March 30, 2013

Prevalence and incidence data show correlations between diseases of the organs and the increase in Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) in the food supply, along with the increase in glyphosate-based herbicide applications (see slide show). More and more studies have revealed carcinogenic and endocrine disrupting effects of Roundup at lower doses than those authorized for residues found in Genetically Modified

Could be a long term effect coming home to roost ?


Data trends show correlation between increase in organ disease and GMOs


Hmmm.

reply to post by xuenchen

Could be a long term effect coming home to roost ?

Wow. It even affected the price of Apple shares!
s.wsj.net...


Are you sure it isn't organic food that's the problem? farmlandlp.com...

Bottled water?
b-i.forbesimg.com...

reply to post by Phage


Organic food sales is a small percentage of total food sales.

but I think maybe the stock price of Apple Computers is the key.

reply to post by xuenchen

Organic food sales is a small percentage of total food sales.

Yes, but the increase in thyroid cancer is clearly linked to the increase in organic food sales. Right? Dangerous stuff.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Organic food sales is a small percentage of total food sales.

Yes, but the increase in pancreatic cancer is clearly linked to the increase in organic food sales. Right? Dangerous stuff.

edit on 8/10/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Well now I have to think.

I thought Steve Jobs swallowed a microchip made in China

But I speculate the problem is mainly because hogs are fed mostly gmo grain.

But it could also be bacon grease brewed from gmo corn oil.

Hmmm.

data overload.......
more research needed......

here's more points of interest.

Deaths and Near-Deaths

1. Recorded Deaths from GM In 1989, dozens of Americans died and several thousands were afflicted and impaired by a genetically altered version of the food supplement – L-tryptophan. A settlement of $2 billion dollars was paid by Showa Denko, Japan’s third largest chemical company. (Mayeno and Gleich, 1994).

2. Near-deaths from Allergic Reactions In 1996, Brazil nut genes were spliced into soybeans by a company called Pioneer Hi-Bred. Some individuals, however, are so allergic to this nut, they go into apoplectic shock (similar to a severe bee sting reaction) which can cause death. Animal tests confirmed the peril and fortunately the product was removed from the market before any fatalities occurred. "The next case could be less than ideal and the public less fortunate," writes Marion Nestle, head of the Nutrition Department of NYU in an editorial to the New England Journal of Medicine. About 25% of Americans have adverse reactions to foods. 8% of children and 2% of adults have food allergies as tested by blood immunoglobins.

50 Reasons to Outlaw GMOs


( Sources for 50 Reasons )

Mad Scientists ?

Makes you think twice !!!
( maybe even 3 times !! )

Originally posted by Phage

Wow. It even affected the price of Apple shares!
s.wsj.net...

And....that is quite strayed from the topic, which makes it quite obvious...
you really need to come up to speed about the dangers of GMO.


History shows again and again
How nature points out the folly of men
Godzilla

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Could be a long term effect coming home to roost ?

Wow. It even affected the price of Apple shares!
s.wsj.net...


Are you sure it isn't organic food that's the problem? farmlandlp.com...

Bottled water?
b-i.forbesimg.com...

edit on 8/10/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Since this is as off topic as anything else (but you're a God among shills so I expect it'll stay up) can I ask why you stopped posting with your mult account for the sake of thread continuity...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Organic food sales is a small percentage of total food sales.

Yes, but the increase in thyroid cancer is clearly linked to the increase in organic food sales. Right? Dangerous stuff.

edit on 8/10/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Organic food sales is a small percentage of total food sales.

Yes, but the increase in pancreatic cancer is clearly linked to the increase in organic food sales. Right? Dangerous stuff.

edit on 8/10/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Very clever !!

The post I responded to was about "pancreatic" cancer.

THAT post indicates one edit.

Hmmm.

All of a sudden the word "pancreatic" mysteriously becomes "thyroid"

And, both 'edits' only show a single 'edit'

How did you do that !!

Congratulations !!

You have created the first "Genetically Modified Post" !!

My answer would have been the same however.

reply to post by xuenchen


well in that case, maybe cornzilla is on the loose!
It was bound to happen sooner or later.



Now that is some dangerous manipulation!

Will GMO supporters enroll their families in a five-year exclusively GMO-only-diet program?