Groundbreaking Investigation Reveals Monsanto Teamed Up With US Military; Targets Scientists,

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

 

They obviously had no trouble getting the "Monsanto Protection Act" passed, something that allows them to keep pumping out their frankenfoods even if they've been suspected as being poisonous and harmful.

Another lie that you have accepted without investigation. I know you don't care about being lied to by "your own" but please read the link this time.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

you continue to use that lam argument as if it has any real bearing on what has taken place and you refuse to answer questions pertaining to such.

again oh great one, why do you differentiate between legislation that protects the end product from legislation that protects the planting, spraying and growing of the end product, as if they are magically different in some way? both have potential to harm people and the environment, this one happens to be about the growing, planting and seeding of GM's, but if something is found to be potentially dangerous why should moncrapo get to keep their potentially dangerous franken organisms growing while we find out?

if you think an underground tank containing hazardous materials may be leaking, would you consider letting it continue operations while you search for a leak or would you prefer to turn off the pumps?


phage will ignore this question yet again as he always does.

reply to post by Phage


That's not my comment.

So a simple check list on each drop off point would be too expensive or burdensome for them?

Again, if Monsanto has nothing to do with the storage or growing of the seeds, why are they so against them being labeled? Do they have to pay these buyers to keep the GMO separate from the non-GMO? I would think the farmers would have to keep that in check, not Monsanto.

So since they have no drawbacks to them being labeled personally, what are they so afraid of?

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Phage

 

if Monsanto has nothing to do with the storage or growing of the seeds, why are they so against them being labeled?

Looking into this now, I am fairly certain they do have everything to do with storage,
and growing the seeds. They even have their own farms, which teenagers have been
killed upon by accidental elctocution working detassling the corn.



See, what we are dealing with here is a multitude of lies that are put forth
in defense of Monsanto, by seemingly reputable "sources" so many of them its
like peeling an onion. Every layer as it comes away and gets closer to the center burns
your eyes, and stings and makes you cry....and you see things you never wanted to know.

Just how evil one company can be in it's pursuit of profits.

reply to post by burntheships


Absolutely excellent and important research. As per usual. Thanks.

S&F&

Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Phage

 

if Monsanto has nothing to do with the storage or growing of the seeds, why are they so against them being labeled?

Looking into this now, I am fairly certain they do have everything to do with storage,
and growing the seeds. They even have their own farms, which teenagers have been
killed upon by accidental elctocution working detassling the corn.

See, what we are dealing with here is a multifude of lies that are put forth
in defense of Monsanto, so many of them its like peeling an onion. Every
layer as it comes away and gets closer to the center burns your eyes, and
stings and makes you cry....and you see things you never wanted to know.

Just how evil one company can be in it's pursuit of profits.

edit on 4-8-2013 by burntheships because: (no reason given)

What does detasseling corn have to do with Monsanto or transgenic GMO?

I am very anti transgenic GMO, but this thread so far has be wondering what "team" I am on exactly... And I don't like those divide and conquer mentalities.

Bottom line, what is the goal? No "transgenic GMO" (please, please, stick to that term) allowed at all in the world?

What is the strategy to make that happen? Accurate information? People taking action using credible information to bring an end to transgenic GMO?

As I stated earlier in the thread, the way things are now, "science" leans in favor of transgenic GMO acceptance. Can we see the science and studies done by biotech companies that was peer reviewed and used for approval by the regulatory agencies? Not that I know of. If you want to argue about science and GMOs, then you better fight science with science.. A game that may be rigged..

Otherwise, I would try to find some other strategies against the transgenics. You were doing good with Michael Taylor. Maybe there are other connections that can be exposed and documented about the people involved etc. It's probably out there somewhere =)

reply to post by Philippines


And I would be happy to answer that question, and will.

At this point in the thread there has been so much dirt uncovered, I am sorry
to say I can not cater to any one person. I will not compromise my research
and findings by sticking to terms people provide for me, nor the scope
of the research. I could not do it just for one, or two.....see where that might lead.

I hope you can understand this is nothing personal, and has only to do with presenting the truth.

reply to post by soficrow


Thank you Sofi.
Much appreciated.

There are over 60 countries that have banned and regulate GMO,
sadly The U.S. is not one of them. I hope I can do my part to change
that someday soon.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Ok, found it.
Yes, Monsanto does store its GMO seeds in its own facilites.
www.reuters.com...

Originally posted by Philippines

What does detasseling corn have to do with Monsanto or transgenic GMO?

There is a fairly indepth article here on Monsanto's egregious and callous
behavior and the companies negligence in its practice of GMO corn
growing, how the GMO aspect plays into the dangers in this practice,
and how Monsanto wants to make sure it finds a way to reap all of the profits
from GMO, but is very careful to put onto the farmers the liabilities.

www.dailykos.com...

Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by Philippines

 

And I would be happy to answer that question, and will.

At this point in the thread there has been so much dirt uncovered, I am sorry
to say I can not cater to any one person. I will not compromise my research
and findings by sticking to terms people provide for me, nor the scope
of the research. I could not do it just for one, or two.....see where that might lead.

I hope you can understand this is nothing personal, and has only to do with presenting the truth.

edit on 4-8-2013 by burntheships because: (no reason given)

I'm not taking any of this personal. I live in my own fantasy land where this transgenic issue probably does not affect me unless I make a conscious decision to eat some processed food.

But.. What dirt has been uncovered to put an end to this transgenic practice/business? Or will the production and sales of transgenic GMO seed continue indefinitely?

Is there a compilation of the evidence neatly put together that will put an end to this business? Will there be revealing evidence of corruption in politics that led to the introduction of transgenic GMOs to be allowed for production? Yes. What would really put an end to this accepted concept and business?

Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by Philippines

What does detasseling corn have to do with Monsanto or transgenic GMO?

There is a fairly indepth article here on Monsanto's egregious and callous
behavior and the companies negligence in its practice of GMO corn
growing, how the GMO aspect plays into the dangers in this practice,
and how Monsanto wants to make sure it finds a way to reap all of the profits
from GMO, but is very careful to put onto the farmers the liabilities.

www.dailykos.com...

I'm not going to argue the circumstances of the case, but the act of detasseling corn has nothing to do with the "brand" of corn. Farmers have been detasseling corn to produce better strains of corn for a long time, long before transgenics.

Maybe its the green revolution and monoculture, combined with dependence on corn that makes the risks of detasseling so much greater?

Originally posted by Philippines
What dirt has been uncovered to put an end to this transgenic practice/business?

Well, all I can say is I am working on my part....and I have seen some awesome
contributions from members here on this thread; things brought to the light that
we previously did not know. Many people are waking up.

Highly reccomended, just from the last few days!

www.stltoday.com... -971d-b48e02a12c75.html

finance.yahoo.com...

finance.yahoo.com...

www.villagevoice.com...

Or will the production and sales of transgenic GMO seed continue indefinitely?

Over 60 countries BAN and regulate GMO crops. So The U.S. is going to be a
battleground. Thats ok, time is on OUR side.
Remember, transgenic foods kill slowly.

Is there a compilation of the evidence neatly put together that will put an end to this business?

I do think that is an excellent idea for a thread here on ATS.

Originally posted by Philippines

Originally posted by burntheships

There is a fairly indepth article here on Monsanto's egregious and callous
behavior and the companies negligence in its practice of GMO corn
growing, how the GMO aspect plays into the dangers in this practice,
and how Monsanto wants to make sure it finds a way to reap all of the profits
from GMO, but is very careful to put onto the farmers the liabilities.

www.dailykos.com...

Maybe its the green revolution and monoculture, combined with dependence on corn that makes the risks of detasseling so much greater?

Really, that article is a great resource, sums it up nicely the total disregard for humanity
by way of corrupt corporate greed, and complete and total disregard for sustainability.

reply to post by burntheships


Thanks for this, great research.

I still see no reason why Monsanto would be unable to keep GMO and non-GMO seed separate from one another and then label them accordingly.

Is it normal for them to mix the two together? Like I said, I'm not very well-versed on the subject, I just think a huge corporation writing bills to their own benefit is bad news no matter which way you look at it.

reply to post by burntheships

Ok, found it.
Yes, Monsanto does store its GMO seeds in its own facilites.

The problem isn't seed. The problem is the produce from the farms.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I still see no reason why Monsanto would be unable to keep GMO and non-GMO seed separate from one another and then label them accordingly.

They do! Go buy some seed corn from Monsanto. They have a variety and it's all labeled. The cost will depend upon the product you select.

We don't eat seed corn.

I see no reason for you to equate seed corn with the corn produced by farms and transported to storage and milling facilities, distributing facilities, and food production facilities.

Think people! Use your brains at least a little bit.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by burntheships

 

Is it normal for them to mix the two together? Like I said, I'm not very well-versed on the subject, I just think a huge corporation writing bills to their own benefit is bad news no matter which way you look at it.

That is another great question. If someone else comes along and answers that in the
meantime, well suffice it to say we need to make sure there are no more lies
presented.

Indeed, Monsanto spent 8 million dollars to defeat the latest bill in GMO
labeling. The reasons that Phage cited as to why they dont label, that is all
sheer B.S. by one of the best B.S. ers. The real reason they wont label it is they
know that there will be a huge liability for them, they simply will fight it to the death.

reply to post by burntheships

The reasons that Phage cited as to why they dont label, that is all sheer B.S.

Complete BS. Ok. Please explain your version of the food production network and how "easy and cheap" it would be to segregate GMO grain from non-GMO grain without the use of completely redundant transport, storage, milling, and production facilities.

Please keep in mind that for corn this involves millions of tons each year.

reply to post by Phage


So..... why are they against their seeded crops being labeled as GMO in grocery stores!?

If they have no problem telling the farmers about the GMO seed, why have they spent so much money to defeat bills that would do the same for consumers?

Maybe because they don't want people knowing that they're buying GMO crops? Now why would they possibly want to do that?

reply to post by Phage


Phage,

I used the term sheer for a specific reason.
See if you can figure out why. Now as to your scripted
questions, no thanks. Besides, you know that the founder
of Monsanto was a eugenicist, right?

And he took it to heart, unlike Tesla.



Good idea on that for S&F though.