Missouri rancher suspects aliens mutilated her cows

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I ment "stay on their ships". Of course they 'beam them up' and do their lazer surgery with high-tech equipment - what I ment was they cannot KEEP a cow on their ship. They have no room for it either.

We're discussing this thread on ATS Live Show #172 - 3rd August 2013

Originally posted by Astr0
My thoughts: They are creating a vaccine for their future exposure to humans, and they need to test its effects on a biologically similar animal that is in close proximity to humans aka farmers over a long term time span.

You thus find out if your chemicals are causing human sickness via low level exposure ie herding cattle. Frankly its creepy as heck, but it has to be looked at seriously. My further thoughts on governments complicity in these tests? my honest opinion on the UK is 'don't even risk picking up the phone'. The UK Gov. for sure are 'in on it' or hiding it to stop a lot of panic.

Another thought of 'why not do it off planet' argument. Who says they are even 'hiding' in 'our' reality. Who says they are even operating on 'our' timescale?

What if 'they' are sat in a 'place' where six or seven weeks has passed away for the years this madness has been going on? They would appear to us as doing this over too large a time frame to be anything of use, ignoring the possibility that actually, they are hard at work, gathering field samples, popping back out, assessing their findings then popping back.

Decades of earth time for a few weeks or months in 'their' time, with the ultimate goal a vaccine or genetic tampering which switches off their deadly allergy to humans and thus negates the need to hide and avoid us at all costs.

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This is another good theory.
Thanks for presenting it. Hmm. I am gonna have to think on this one for awhile. It falls in line with what I said earlier about how they probably don't have a home planet. Time dilation.
Any activities one of these species perform here would probably seem drug out over many years to us, but may only happen over the course of a few days for them.

But if this theory proves true, I am not a fan of how they are getting their vaccine.

Originally posted by JayinAR
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This is another good theory.
Thanks for presenting it. Hmm. I am gonna have to think on this one for awhile. It falls in line with what I said earlier about how they probably don't have a home planet. Time dilation.
Any activities one of these species perform here would probably seem drug out over many years to us, but may only happen over the course of a few days for them.

But if this theory proves true, I am not a fan of how they are getting their vaccine.

A few points i'd like to mull over with you and all in the thread - the areas of the surgical incisions. A vast majority are the cheek and tongue area, and the reproductive organs / rectum and eyes. This disturbs me greatly, because it sits really well with my vaccine theory, but maybe I have it back to front, maybe its a vaccine for US to prevent their allergies. In other words, are they running tests on cattle to make sure they are not going to A) stop or vastly reduce us breeding, (reproductive organs) B) stop us ingesting food stuff (tongue and cheek baffles) ## The baffles removed could also be a check to see if toxin build up occurs, or the vaccine causes tumours, or simply simply does the absorbtion rate decrease over long term exposure C) make sure exposure to their craft and energies aren't going to blind us (eyes removed to check for retinal / corneal damage or tumour growth.

In short, are they making a vaccine WE will have to take so THEY don't get sick?? do I have it back to front? and is this the reason that over 10,000 cattles have been subjected to this horrific experimentation since it first erupted in 1967 (USA first report of cattle mutilation was 1967 IIRC).

46 years or there abouts, so if I was a scientist on an alien vessel, i'd want to make that a good field test, so i'd say run this over 5 of 'my' years to be absolutely sure I was 100% ( or near as dammit ) close to absolute protection from this disease riddled creature who I cannot go near unless in a totally sterile field and they are immobilised and im wearing full facial and body protective gear.

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This theory seems plausible.
I would tend to think the vaccine would be for them.
They are the ones coming here, afterall. Like I said, I doubt they have a home planet. If they are preparing a vaccine it is obviously because they wanna take up shop here for awhile. They would be the ones in danger.

I also wanted to remark on the lightning strike theory.
Implausible. Most mutilated cattle are found in lower lying areas of land. I think it allows them to operate without being seen from afar.

ETA: the vaccine theory presents a pretty frightening scenario. Think The Day the Earth Stood Still

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The Day the Earth Stood Still and War Of The Worlds. Wasn't it in War Of The Worlds where the viruses/bacteria of planet Earth took down the invading aliens and their tripods?

Either way, I really think this is a possible reason for the abductions.

Originally posted by JayinAR
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This theory seems plausible.
I would tend to think the vaccine would be for them.
They are the ones coming here, afterall. Like I said, I doubt they have a home planet. If they are preparing a vaccine it is obviously because they wanna take up shop here for awhile. They would be the ones in danger.

I also wanted to remark on the lightning strike theory.
Implausible. Most mutilated cattle are found in lower lying areas of land. I think it allows them to operate without being seen from afar.

ETA: the vaccine theory presents a pretty frightening scenario. Think The Day the Earth Stood Still[

1) I stand by my vaccine theory, either for them or us, but either way they are testing long term (earth years) exposure to said vaccine.
2) Take up shop. I totally agree. This is a preparation / incubation period before they make a move for contact.
3) I've been reading on this all day - and whats struck me is that neither east nor west coast USA has a rash of mutilations, its primarily a swathe right down the middle of the nation where these occur in the USA.

4) Lightning. Laughable. I've looked at thousands of images today, and all are eerily similar. That's not possible unless deliberate.

5) Day the earth stood still. That's not even a funny thought.

Either way, I really think this is a possible reason for the abductions.

I saw the human mutilation victim photos. What scared me was the identical nature of the poor mans injuries. Eye, cheek baffle, and those disgusting 'cookie cutter' under arm and chest wounds. That man went through hell.

If this abductee scenario is even 1% true, then over 30,000 people have been through this hellish nightmare and returned. Returned why? and here is where I get a little freaked out. I propose that these people have a small amount of a 'serum' (vaccine / test pathogen / altered DNA to produce a by product) in their system, and are 'live test subjects'. The implants they keep finding are biological monitoring stations to keep transmitting real time data to a download hub for the aliens to hoover up on their return and thus update their experiments.

This to me would cover why generational abductions happen. Living breathing biological petri dishes.

So, are a small slice of the 'missing persons mystery' actually the ones with no families and get taken never to return? I propose that they are and I propose the governments know this and are covering it all up as best as they can.

Cattle die for multiple reasons--sometimes lightning can strike and leave similar scorch marks. Small carnivores like opposums, foxes, coyotes, and raccons can eat all the soft parts--tongue, ears, nose, vagina, udder--in one night. No blood would be expected from an animal that had been dead for a few hours that was then eaten upon.

My land supports many deer. Poachers shoot from the road. Sometimes the deer is mortally wounded, but runs off. I find such deer carcases on occasion. The first night, usually just the soft parts are eaten. After a day or two, the skin becomes rotten enough that the rest of the carcase can be eaten down to bone. Of course a pack of coyotes can consume a deer carcase on the first night.

Originally posted by JayinAR

I also wanted to remark on the lightning strike theory.
Implausible.

Lightning killing cattle is implausible but aliens coming from other planets in flying saucers, kidnapping them and coring out their anuses isn't?!!



Better tell Brad the dairy farmer he's got it all wrong!

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Yeah, I have been digging as well.
I don't know if you have came across this article or not yet ( www.chieftain.com... ), but in this article an investigator found a mutilated cow inside a fresh crop circle!
I have been trying to find a write up on that case with no luck.

The reason I bring up The Day the Earth Stood Still is because in that story you have an alien making open contact, which if the vaccine theory has merit, is exactly where this is headed.
The aliens in this case would be preparing for long term contact. And honestly, if they were coming here to stay, humans may find themselves in a lot of trouble in short order.

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I see you left out WHY I said it was implausible. smooth.

When the cow is found in a depressed area of ground it is highly unlikely lightning is the culprit.
Or when a cow is found lying next to a tree with all the branches overhead broken...and the cows legs and ribs are ALSO broken, again, lightning is not the culprit. The cow was dropped there.

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Ever seen a raccoon cleanly remove a cow's hoof?
That happens too.

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You do realize how much blood is in a cow? There would be some traces of blood somewhere if this were predators. And as I stated earlier in this thread, why would predators be selective about which parts they take--heart, tongue, reproductive organs, etc.--yet leave other parts such as the liver, which are very meaty and nutrient rich? Not to mention these organs show signs of being cut out, not ripped out as would be the case with predators.

And if this were lightning, wouldn't there be an entrance and likely an exit wound. Are we to believe that when lightning strikes a cow that it follows the exact same path in all of these animals and only burns the areas around the mouth, anus, and udders? It just doesn't make sense to me.

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Some theories are that this is part of a random sample ecological study of biosphere toxins. Sure the Government can raise their own cattle and study them,...but they also need samples in areas that they don't control...the tissues removed usually are high in environmental toxins ( tongue, gums, lips, udders,anus ect) and of course, blood...


The char mark may be a side effect of the tech used to return the cow to the ground...some cattle mutilations include cow's legs broken from being dropped high,... those are the ones that seem more like Government doings...

Originally posted by MuzzleBreak
Cattle die for multiple reasons--sometimes lightning can strike and leave similar scorch marks. Small carnivores like opposums, foxes, coyotes, and raccons can eat all the soft parts--tongue, ears, nose, vagina, udder--in one night. No blood would be expected from an animal that had been dead for a few hours that was then eaten upon.

I'm a hunter and a farmers lad. I'm telling you, right now, that if an animal dies from a lightning strike (I have seen this first hand) it doesn't replicate the injuries on tens of thousands of cattle across the US and beyond.

The electric flow goes from the strike point to the ground, which is in my experience through either one or two hooves. You get some internal heating and damage, not total utter removal. Nor do one eye and one cheek get removed. Also, on a natural death, foxes et al will come have a free for all. Kites and Buzzards too.

This leads me to why I believe some thing off this world is happening - and that's the lack of post mortum predatation. The cored out animals are left untouched and shunned by the rest of the herd. Now, in a natural death, the herd will stay close by and you often have to use a vehicle to force the cows away from a fallen herd member.

Of note also - the mystery of the 'stepped notched cuts' on victims of mutilation. That freaked me out no end.

Lightning can explode whole trees--and explode bone and flesh also.
Small depressions in the ground offer only very little protection.

Police don't get involved when the mutilation is done by a natural predator such as a coyote.

Someone is killing the cattle. It is as simple as that. The Government is interested, but I highly doubt they are behind all of it.

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What I mean is a significant depression in the terrain. Lighting is more likely to strike a hilltop than the bottom of a draw.