Spectacular Night Time UFO Over Oregon..

mmm...not really.
look at the video..the strobe and nav lights on the wing tips are seen.
this fact requires the object to be very low.
speed is easily gauged from background stars at this low level.
this is obviously not a jet aircraft.

reply to post by autopat51


I'm sorry. Are you saying aircraft lights at normal altitudes cannot be detected by hand held cameras?

reply to post by Tearman


aircraft flying at 30,000 to 35,000 feet..
no..you will not see nav. lights.
those lights are basically the size of your tail light bulbs on your car.
this aircraft was very low..and its speed relates to a prop driven plane.

You're talking about the static red lights on the trailing aircraft, right?

reply to post by Tearman


law states..red on the left wing, green on the right
strobes just do what they do..strobe")
nav lights are not static..the blink on and off.

It takes about 5.8 seconds for a (from the observer's point of view) star to traverse the distance between the two craft. At conservatively 150 knots of SoG, that would make the distance between the craft at around .24 nm or 1450 feet. That is WAY to much feather out for a refueling assembly as the air friction drag and whipsaw instability would be enormous and break the rig. Refueling occurs in much tighter formation than this.

I do know that a strobe is required on a military tow target when in a non-operational area, and port and starboard running lights as well. 1500 ft is a standard military target tow payout.

My guess is a military target tow.

And this is one heck of a set of Gen 3 A set of night vision equipment. My guess is that this guy has seen this before.

reply to post by autopat51

Could the lights we see in the video be, not nav lights, but some other lights, perhaps turned on to aid the supposed refueling operation?

reply to post by TheEthicalSkeptic


thank you..
knew it wasnt refueling from the start
but didnt know the answer either.

reply to post by Tearman


the only additional lights you will see are from the refueler..
belly lights..arrows..tell the refuelee what to do..

reply to post by scrog77


Great catch. Looks like the first one is being followed or escorted. What day of week was this?

Also so noticed lot of other moving object in the footage, some satellites and some are moving and stopping

reply to post by _BoneZ_


Isn't the fueling plane (front one) also supposed to have blinking lights? It looks like only the back one is blinking, unless the blinking aircraft goes the way of a satellite to follow it.

I don't know if anyone on here has looked at the other videos he has on his channel but they are interesting...
This one looks like a big screen TV out in the middle of the woods but I could be just assuming that...

There is another one where he is filming some lights in the woods and they are moving around like KIT from Knight Rider. Someone said it was a tow truck or an emergency vehicle.
I will try to find that one because it's interesting. His vids have been discussed here in the past but the thread often dies.

Here is the "Tow Truck" one...


I guess it could be a Tow Truck and maybe there are people or the tall grass is moving to give the iilusion of the lights moving... still pretty trippy though...

I think this guy was on UFO Hunters or at least his footage may have been.
Also seems to communicate with seeingUFOsPA...
Not sure if she is deemed a Hoaxer or not but I like to keep an open mind.

Very cool. No idea what that front object is and it only gets more mysterious when the IR filter is turned off. Unless it's projecting some kind of image/hologram in front of it. But even I feel ridiculous speculating that. Anyway, at the very least, this has given me itchy ebay trigger fingers for a yukon ranger

reply to post by scrog77


I made a way better helium powered UFO using flashing LED balloon lights.

I bought a ballon kit for $25 bucks, which came with a helium tank and balloons, then I purchased LED balloon lights and scared the living # out of Glendale, CA for over a month.

reply to post by scrog77


The Chinese LED balloon lights are about 25cents a piece on ebay, i think. You can also purchase bigger 16 inch white balloons on ebay for about a buck a piece. White balloons look best with the multi-colored LED lights.

Scare your neighbors and launch a UFO, you morons!

reply to post by MildyAmuzed


Eh, that's a cabin with a big screen tv and a glossy coffee table in front of it with a yard light to the left... see? The other one is indeed an emergency vehicle.

The first one is odd but the one light is def a plane so it follows it's most likely a refueling and prosaic... not to say there isn't plenty weird in our skies... just that this isn't it.

Hard to tell what it/ they are.


I would speculate since the narrator said they were " heading north", they might be military aircraft heading into Canada for the upcoming Abbotsford Air Show in BC. This is the time they are all flying here to prep for rehearsals. I've been seeing unfamiliar aircraft all week. Its common around this time, leading up to it, for people to be noting " UFO's" in Oregon, Washington & BC.

reply to post by scrog77


Have no way of viewing the video..Anyone care to post a snapshot or a still of what is in the video..? Thanks

I think the Military Refuel Tanker and smaller jet aircraft scenario meets just about everything seen here.

- The fighter jet has a nav strobe on. According to FAA regulations, lights must not flash less than 40 times per minute and no more than 100 times per minute, and this fits those requirements. Strobe flashes are definitely picked up on thermal images and they are seen here in heat as well as regular video.

-The tanker, being larger, with 4 engines, has a larger heat signature, which is evident.

-The fighter jet to be refueled is slowly closing in on the tanker.

-Flashing strobes may be temporarily turned off on the Tanker, as to not interfere with the fighter pilots visual field while aligning the Nozzle.

-What Violet had said above, about the up-coming airshow to the north, makes perfect sense for seeing an aircraft refueling event, as some of the fighter jets do not have the fuel range to make it there, depending upon what bases that they were dispatched from.

Given these observational matches with a well known occurrence, speculation on wilder objects does not seem well justified. IMHO.