Everything you believe about the history of the world is False

Originally posted by greyer
I wonder how many people truly believe in the Creationist's world view today, it must be like less than 2% of the world population who truly believes in that with all their mind - because anyone with a tiny amount of knowledge can discard all that nonsense.

You know at one time less than 2% believed the earth was round! That must make them the smartest people in the world because it was so obviously flat, right? Genetics and DNA prove there is intelligent design and nothing just happened out of a poisonous primordial soup. It is beyond mathematical chance for life to have come by accident.

reply to post by CircleOfDust

... most readers will fall into one of two highly broad categories.

I guess we all feel relieved there are... um, experts, out there capable of classifying millions... nay, billions of complete strangers.

I know I do. I could have never figured myself out with any help, lol.

It has been proven that Stone Henge could easily have been built using basic tools and known fulcrum points to erect those massive stones.



Was Coral castle built by 6d tech?

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


Truth cannot be known unless it is perceived, so a tree falling in the forest does not make any sound. Even those who say that it does make a sound because they are observing that the event takes place cannot perceive the truth because it is not made known to them. However when a truth is made known it still cannot be perceived, this is the way perception goes. That's why the way to figure things out is to doubt what people say and also not say what is true - because you know that you cannot say what is true.

reply to post by redoubt


If you're not adding anything substantive to the conversation but sarcasm, why bother?

Originally posted by CircleOfDust

Originally posted by iterationzero
reply to post by CircleOfDust

 

CAN'T

Right. So we can build a scale model of it in Las Vegas out of glass and metal that, while shorter by about 120 feet, has nearly 4500 rooms and literally hundreds of times the interior space and is still structurally sound enough to be a casino... but we couldn't build one out of rock that has essentially no real interior room? Makes absolute sense!

Until you or someone can build a real pyramid or balance a rock like at corral castle to the degree of perfection of the original, you're just speculating.

Fact: no one in modern times ever has.

You are just simply wrong... see my above post about stone henge.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


There's a big difference between Stonehenge and the Pyramids.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
reply to post by redoubt

 

If you're not adding anything substantive to the conversation but sarcasm, why bother?

You are a member of a species that numbers over 8 billion across numerous continents, divided across and through many, many cultures and sub divided across vast cultures and beliefs that hold within them subdivisions that are incredible old and profound.

If noting an attempt to classify even most of us under two categories wasn't substantive, then I would have never banged out a single word. My keyboard would have tied my fingers in a knot...

besides that, I did want to express my gratitude because even as individuals, we are fairly complex creatures. I look in the mirror every day and wonder just how in the hell I got here and then, bow down to thank the god of bed linen that I didn't wind up as a stain on the sheets.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity


The Sheer number of things that would have to happen to make a mammal would be akin to a plane junkyard with little parts being hit by a tornado and out pops at 747 when it is done.

What if a tornado hits a junkyard and whatever comes out (typically a big ball of junk) has the same chance as a 747. Both the 747 and the ball of junk are unique right?

Evolution is not just a random mix of DNA even though it is mindless in its process. Slow and dumb is not good...unless you have a thicker hide then the size of a beast's teeth.

The problem with your whole line of thinking and the video you post is these great odds are all based on starting at the beginning with the idea to make a specific creature (humans) and that is not how it all works. Start at the beginning and say what are the odds that life in general will go a million directions with no stipulations as to what kind of life is created in the end is really what we are dealing with here. Humans just happen to be one of those creations otherwise we could take EVERY life form on earth and figure the same 10 billion to 1 odds by your logic....

Another way to look at it.... take a football and with your eyes close spin around and then throw it. The odds that it hits where it does is the same odds for billions of other points right? That is evolution... now after the ball hits we walk up and say boy if you were really trying to hit that point before you threw the ball it would be 10 billion to one that you would do it, so god must have guided the ball....

The odds are close to 100% that life will evolve a million different directions as good traits over come bad ones, so I do not understand why you and your video do not understand that humans just happen to be one of those millions of life forms that was molded by good traits.

reply to post by redoubt


Yes but even the categories within ATS don't figure in all the possibilities. I wish everybody including yourself would try and see the most important point of life (that I tried to capture through my terribly wanting post) and discuss that rather than quibble over the extraneous details that ultimately have no bearing. Like Pyramids and Stonehendge.

reply to post by Xtrozero


The only problem with your fanciful line of reasoning is that there is no evidence in the fossil record to support your ideas. The only support you have is the sudden explosion of life after every extinction.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust

The only problem with your fanciful line of reasoning is that there is no evidence in the fossil record to support your ideas. The only support you have is the sudden explosion of life after every extinction.

It is hard to kill life, but species come and go rather quickly....my support is all the different life around me.

Do you not understand what I was talking about? You guys are looking at thing after the fact and saying oh what are the odds...when before the fact everything had the same odds since it was random. If you can't understand (or don't want to understand) this simple concept on how a 10 billion to 1 odds argument comes about then there really is not more to say.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
reply to post by redoubt

 

Yes but even the categories within ATS don't figure in all the possibilities. I wish everybody including yourself would try and see the most important point of life (that I tried to capture through my terribly wanting post) and discuss that rather than quibble over the extraneous details that ultimately have no bearing. Like Pyramids and Stonehendge.

If I may... we'll begin with the OP title:

Everything you believe about the history of the world is False

That's quite a statement and while many apply arrangements like this to attract attention, it is a statement.

Next...

For simplicity sake for this post, most readers will fall into one of two highly broad categories. Those who believe in Creationism and those who believe in Evolution. Both are wrong in their understanding of their present circumstances which directly coincides with their understanding of the past.

This is another helluva statement... telling millions (or more) that their beliefs are wrong.

So, the average ATS member might be tempted to ask... who is this person to first classify the human species into two categories and then declare both in error?

It was from this point that I responded as I did... because I have a distinct disagreement with anyone stereotyping people or their beliefs. Why? Because out of those 8+ billion, who are you (or anyone else) to be telling us how wrong we are?

Like that... I was trying to see just who it was out there in the digital universe who had come to this deep godlike understanding.

Besides that, I am always looking for answers to life's many mysteries. So, I took you to task to see who I was... and I hope to make a profound discovery tonight

Iam still waiting for the all the evidence the OP should have shown us to do with his wild claims.
Guess it was all lies after all.

reply to post by Xtrozero


So how long would you say it takes for this life that exists around you, to arise in the first place?

reply to post by boymonkey74


I'm still waiting on you to change that ugly avatar...and to build a Pyramid.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
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I'm still waiting on you to change that ugly avatar...and to build a Pyramid.

Quoting your words...

If you're not adding anything substantive to the conversation but sarcasm, why bother?

Okay, I'm done here.

reply to post by redoubt


You're still arguing over extraneous details. Are you sending messages over and over to ATS mods to broaden their highly broad categories? I think not.

Most readers however, to this board, do fall into one of those categories, so nothing I've said is untrue regarding that.

reply to post by CircleOfDust


Once again diverting instead of doing what you should have done and provide evidence.
Oh and my avatar rocks, how is a monkey washing a cat ugly?

Oh and why would I want to build a pyramid? we just don't need to but that sure doesn't mean we couldn't If we wanted to.
So again tell us why we could not build one..please try and prove it.

reply to post by redoubt


His avatar gives off a bad energy, and he uses that specifically to cause mental chaos in the individual. He also would like to believe that modern man can build an ancient pyramid, but modern man can't. To go against his belief structure is at the heart of the matter: we are getting progressively worse, not progressively better.