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originally posted by: praveenbjpr
WHAT IF, Pineal Gland IS ALREADY AVTIVATED, MINE IS....
originally posted by: donpanini
I did the meditation and it wasn't fun, felt nausea that lasted for a couple of hours, and something from the lower forehead to the top of the head (hot and cold simultaneously and a pressure and some other weird stuff)
Is it normal to feel nauseated?
Padmasambhava, the precious guru, advised us to use hindrances experiences like sickness, pain, headaches, or intense fatigue as helpers for Samadhi.
One starts by understanding its transitional nature.... a temporary experience. Without naming it as a faults or virtue, one simply allows it to naturally occur and be liberated. Without clinging it does not a dwelling ground.
Knowing his future listeners to be entangled by mundane concepts, the guru advises on how to clear these bodily sickness and pain. In brief, the lesson explains:
"Sickness abides laterally in the all-ground, in the manner of the constitution of the channels and as habitual tendencies. Its causes are due to unwholesome karma accumulated through ignorance and ego clinging. It is activated by disturbing emotions, conceptual thinking, prana-winds, or gods and demons. The matured results is the 404 types of disease, heated by heat and cold, phlegm, aches, and swelling. In short, the disease of coemergent ignorance is the chief cause and the disease of conceptual ignorance is the chief circumstance."
In summary, all sickness (including those not related to meditation) posses five factors:
Unwholesome Karma as the cause;
Disturbing emotions as the circumstances;
Conceptual thinking as the connecting link,
Prana-wind as the concluding assembler,
Gods and demons as the supportive factor.
Using Ignorance as an example, the process is:
Since the cause is Ignorance, recognize co-emergent wisdom as the cure.
Since the condition is disturbing emotions, settle your attention to evenness.
Since the connector is conceptual thinking, cut through the ties of thought.
Since the gatherer of the conclusion is wind, focus on the key point of wind.
The back-support is the gods and demons: must abandon the notion of a demon.
By doing this you will be freed from all kinds of disease.
However, the cure for the essence of illness as instructed by the Enlightened master may be beyond our conceptual mind. He went on to explain the alternatives:
Best to leave it to be self-liberated.
That is to say, in the preliminaries, don't pursue the sickness.
During the main part, don't cultivate the sickness.
During the conclusion, don't dwell on feeling sick.
Through that, you will untie old sickness and remain unharmed by new ones.
(Living followers of this advice are those that understood)
Feelings of nausea and heat
Question: I was meditating this evening when all of sudden after about twenty-eight minutes, a huge wave of nausea and heat overcame me. I came out of meditation to take some deep breaths and lean forward, and then the nausea went away. My question is, should I have continued the meditation by assuming this was just another feeling . . . or should I have done what I did?
Deepak’s response:
You handled it correctly. When a sensation is so strong that it becomes difficult to continue meditating easily, then coming out to attend to the sensation until it subsides is appropriate. When the feelings are not so strong, then you can treat them like any other thought that comes up in meditation and easily go back to the mantra. But in your case, you said the nausea and heat overcame you, so in such a situation you shouldn’t try to force your mind to go back to the mantra when it is so completely caught up in that physical release process. By stopping the mantra, breathing all the way into the sensation, and being with it until it went away, you did the right thing.
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Feelings of nausea and heat
Question: I was meditating this evening when all of sudden after about twenty-eight minutes, a huge wave of nausea and heat overcame me. I came out of meditation to take some deep breaths and lean forward, and then the nausea went away. My question is, should I have continued the meditation by assuming this was just another feeling . . . or should I have done what I did?
Deepak’s response:
You handled it correctly. When a sensation is so strong that it becomes difficult to continue meditating easily, then coming out to attend to the sensation until it subsides is appropriate. When the feelings are not so strong, then you can treat them like any other thought that comes up in meditation and easily go back to the mantra. But in your case, you said the nausea and heat overcame you, so in such a situation you shouldn’t try to force your mind to go back to the mantra when it is so completely caught up in that physical release process. By stopping the mantra, breathing all the way into the sensation, and being with it until it went away, you did the right thing.
- See more at: www.chopra.com...
originally posted by: donpanini
a reply to: RifRAAF
Thank you for the reply it's interesting for 2 reasons
First one, I decided to test what you wrote so I tried the same meditation again and when the nausea came I closed my eyes and imagined just a yellow wall (it didn't make the nausea disappear but it made it to stop getting worse)
Second one is I allways have my sinuses full and after the first experience they got cleared for 2 days will see how it goes for the next days
Secret chakras
There are said to be three chakras that are beyond the physical and the spiritual. They are called Golata, Lalata, and Lalana and "located on the uvula at the back of the throat, above the Ajna chakra, and within the soft upper palate".[49] According to Robert Svoboda they defy description in the sense of the above seven and can only be experienced once Kundalini has fully awakened.
originally posted by: saadad
I m also on 100% free of # food and drink. I also meditate for several years and i read many topics about OBE, third eye and here is my point of view:
There is something out there, but i dont know what it is. But Yoga, mambo jambo meditation and other new age bull # is sure wrong. They just want to leak your money.
So i m stuck. I dont know how to proceed further. I dont want to read books that say that person had OBE and fly away and other crap they are fantasizing. If you have some book to suggest without any religious or other crap i m all ears.
originally posted by: ItVibrates
Hey everyone. I have a question I was wondering if you guys could answer. Is it important to work thru the chakras and work up to the pineal, or is it safe to just focus on the pineal?
I'm asking because I'm wishing to reduce any unwanted side effects.
Thanks and sorry for the bump.