Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne


Sorry someone deserving the the NPP is one who brings people together not have them fighting with other countries, and themselves.

PEACE?

Snowden?

That is a joke because the world hates this country even more than it use to.

Originally posted by neo96
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Who in your opinion is a more deserving person to receive this once coveted award?

Someone who cures cancer.

Well Snowden is technically trying to cure a cancer.

reply to post by Samuelis


Yeah by killing the patient.

Hoorah!


And people by all means have fun with the idolatry of Snowden.

I'm out.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I think the Peace Prize has lost virtually all meaning and special status as a true World Class award. This is wrong on multiple levels. First, as he is leaving a career of being an intelligence officer, then successful and apparently accomplished contractor for years following that. If all is as it seems (which is another matter altogether) then he's probably gone a good distance in Karmic balance for what he's done and who it's already hurt in life. To get a peace prize for clearing his own conscience? That's not what I understood that to have originally or traditionally been meant for.

It's just a lump of metal and a certificate these days.

Okay Wrab, I understand that, but the Nobel is underpinned on righting a wrong absolutely, and that is a personal perception. Nobel never achieved that, he did the next best thing, that was to bring his perceptions to the plebs.

Originally posted by neo96
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Yeah by killing the patient.

Hoorah!


And people by all means have fun with the idolatry of Snowden.

I'm out.

edit on 15-7-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

The cancer killed the patient a long time ago and it's becoming contagious.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

 

Sorry someone deserving the the NPP is one who brings people together not have them fighting with other countries, and themselves.

PEACE?

Snowden?

That is a joke because the world hates this country even more than it use to.

The world doesn't hate this country, they hate our government, there is a big difference, and that's a bit cynical of you Neo, I've read your posts for years and I'm surprised to see you say that. People of the world don't understand how we allow it to continue, but they don't hate us for it, they are saddened.

Before there can be peace, the people controlling things have to be brought down. Snowden has brought us one step closer to that reality, and we can use every bit of help we get. I applaud him, and he is one of the first great men of our time to lay on the sword for FREEDOM.

~Namaste

reply to post by Samuelis

The cancer killed the patient a long time ago and it's becoming contagious.

Someone go tell the Nobel nominators to do some READING

Snowden the 'hero' has a much substance as a nobel peace prize.

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

Before there can be peace, the people controlling things have to be brought down.

Never going to happen think 1 guy taking on the US federal government is going to take it down?

No.

Originally posted by neo96
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Before there can be peace, the people controlling things have to be brought down.

Never going to happen think 1 guy taking on the US federal government is going to take it down?

No.

Every revolution in history has started with 1 man's idea.

That is what plants the seed and spreads from there. It's a numbers game, and we outnumber them, we just need the people in greater numbers see it.

~Namaste

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne


Oh well then if it is a numbers game there are more government dependents than Snowden supporters.

Think the masses are going to bite the hands that feeds them?

I don't think so.

reply to post by Samuelis


Okay.

I, for one, am fine with this.

I'm not sure why I so often have a minority opinion, but I'm with neo96, especially his first comment.

Assuming the award has something to do with peace, please look at the effects his actions have had so far. The most obvious result is increased suspicion and criticism of several nations. The US to be sure, but also the UK and France have admitted to similar operations.

He might have spread knowledge but there is no indication that he has made peace anywhere on the globe. Yes, I've heard the argument that the destruction of the US government is the first step to peace, but Obama's prize was based on the idea that he was taking the first step to peace.

Whether the future results of his actions qualify him for the Peace Prize, or the War Prize, is yet to be seen. But I can't imagine anybody disagreeing with the idea that a Peace prize would be premature.

Who else? Well, if you must have whistleblowers or people bringing an unjust system to light, consider China or Russia as the birth place of several.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne

 

Sorry someone deserving the the NPP is one who brings people together not have them fighting with other countries, and themselves.

PEACE?

Snowden?

That is a joke because the world hates this country even more than it use to.

What's the definition of world/hate/country? Are you saying That the US government could do better, or that the US government is doing things right, while the rest of the world is full of the brown stuff.

reply to post by charles1952


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Gentlemen, I find myself at odds with both of you over this issue.

It always hurts when you pull the bandaid off to expose the wound. But you can't treat it unless it is exposed.

Please forgive my dissenting opinion.

How Are Nobel Peace Prize Winners Chosen?

Well About.com says,

The goal of the Nobel Peace Prize is to award people who "have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

Oftentimes, the winners are people who have not completed their work toward peace, but who are at a critical juncture in their work and who need the support that winning the Nobel Peace Prize brings.

I almost feel that last paragraph was added strictly for Obama.

Snowden does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. What he has done is only try to force an addict (US Guv) to admit that they have a problem. But we all know, all that power.....makes...it...hard...to resist.....quitting.

He says he has the info to tear this mother down but is keeping his mouth shut. Will the release of this information right the wrongs of our great nation or will it send us into a downward spiral. There rests my decision.

Maybe a "Person of the Year" award would suit him better.

reply to post by beezzer

Dear beezzer,

Don't worry, we're not in disagreement. (Although you'd express yourself even if we were. You're a strong and principled little bunny.)

There will be some good outcomes from Snowden's action, the peeling off of the band-aid, if you will. My question is whether the "Peace Prize" is the suitable award. It's a little like nominating Sandra Bullock for Best Photography. She deserves something, but she's in the wrong category.

Might I suggest some UN prize or recognition?

With respect,
Charles1952

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Unlike some I don't have a problem with your opinion as people are entitled to them

Like anyone who doesn't swim up the Snowden love stream automatically gets jumped on.

To repeat that others have already disagreed with is Snowden is going to magically change the US government spying.

There are only 3 things of certainity in life:

Death
Taxes
Government spying.

Showden is not going to change that within 5 years from now the next reality tv star will emerge and 'declare the evils of the US government.'.

The world was suppose to change with Assange and Manning, and looky here:

Same as it ever was.

reply to post by charles1952


We agree that Snowden deserves recognition.

Since the Nobel is an international award, I thought it suitable. But if another award was more deserving, then I'd be for that as well.

reply to post by neo96


Snowden won't change the fact that the US government will continue to violate international law and the US Constitution.

But now WE know that THEY know.

It's a start, my friend.