YES! Christ is the ONLY way. I can prove it to you with one word.

I provided the link to the Hebrew. You can further consult the meaning of the original Phoenecial letters as compared to several different languages here: Phoenician Alphabet

Roots to language are called morphemes. Morphology is the way larger words are created by adding letters to roots. As the branching of information (in formed) takes place, words become sentences, sentences paragraphs and so on. You can consult any Hebrew Lexicon you want. Aleph Bet is the word Father and the root of all other words. I have not pulled this out of thin air. I have taken it from the original meanings that any Hebrew speaking person would recognize. You have Google. Get busy. I dare you to put a hole in anything I have stated. It is all truth by definition and root origin.

Originally posted by cody599
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

I'm afraid I have to take issue

Aleph doesn't really have a meaning in Hebrew it's just a letter

Aleph bet is the Hebrew way of saying alphabet

Mother is actually pronounced eema and water is mime not mem

Son is Ben I would be for example ben roderick

I have no idea where you got your information from but as a Hebrew speaker you couldn't have got it more wrong

Good luck with the post

Cody

reply to post by cody599


Everything you have shown is incorrect. Here is one example.

You Said: "Son is Ben I would be for example ben roderick "

From Hebrew, the WORD Ben is Aleph Nun. It is created with two Hebrew letters. From the first link I posted in the OP:

"The first letter is the (bet - B), a picture of a tent or house. The second letter, (nun - N) is the picture of a seed. The seed is a new generation of life that will grow and produce a new generation therefore, this letter can mean "to continue." When combined these two letters form the word BeN meaning "to continue the house" and is the Hebrew word for a "son.""

Here is the LINK: LINK

Originally posted by InverseLookingGlass
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Truth: Never believe a man interpreting the words of God.

I only believe what the supreme being delivers to me first hand everything else is rubbish.

You have no way to discount the facts as presented, so you say that the man delivering them is rubbish. This is not truth, it is incredulity from a fixed mindset. The truth of the word is clear. If no holes can be found in what I have shown, then we have further evidence that God is what he says he is. WORD. Is the Acorn the oak three or is the oak tree the acorn. The answer is neither. The acorn has a 75 foot oak tree enfolded and neither of these forms is the thing we see. The essences is the WORD and DNA (Tree of Life) inside.

The Bible is not wrong on this. We can choose to see it as truth or deny it with ignorance. This does not change the fact that Truth is Aleph Mem Tav. On either side of the waters of life, we have the word that created it.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


Nope

You're wrong

I live breathe and speak Hebrew

It's my second language, all the links in the world aren't going to make you right

Have a test

Mah ha shem shell ha bat shell ha haverim acri tovim shell ha ?

Just saying

Cody

reply to post by EnochWasRight

Dear EnochWasRight,

I may have been misunderstanding you. Is this thread intended to be attacking, or teaching? Of course you can do whatever you like with it, it's your thread. But, personally, I don't care much for a thread that attacks on any issue, and I'm really uncomfortable when a Christian is doing the attacking. I just can't get my head around that concept.

Some one once told me that "If the fish aren't interested in the bait, try another bait."

With respect,
Charles1952

reply to post by charles1952

Some one once told me that "If the fish aren't interested in the bait, try another bait."

The question for me now is, what does Enoch intend for the fish he catches?

Your own words say that there is no end, yet God's word clearly says to take a rest from creation. The Sabbath comes at the end of each 6000 years cycle. 1000 years is a rest period. In Genesis 1, God rested on the seventh day. In Genesis 2, a new creation was built by the Son of God (Lord) in the form of Adam. We are now at the end of the 6th day again. Death is the end if we remove God. As the language says clearly, death is Mem Tav. We must acknowledge the one that begins our good work.

You say I am cherry picking. Which of our two versions adheres to what he word actually says? Our own current history speaks to the tyranny that the book of Revelation clearly states is coming. On so many different levels, I can show you how the profoundly simple Truth of Aleph Mem Tav shows the world around us.

How many electrons, protons and neutrons are there in Carbon, the mark of mankind?

Revelation 13

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.

The mark of mankind is Carbon. The beast being sacrificed is the one we wear as a body. The soul is being refined in and water (Baptism) puts out fire. The fire is coming and I am simply warning you to see the Strength bringing it before the message comes to a close. God is what he says he is, even if his invariable symmetry goes against our will and pride.

By the way, invariable symmetry is why strong nuclear forces always capture the weak force. This is because the Proton has two up quarks and one down. The neutron has two down and one up. They both follow invariable symmetry. The electron (-) weak force does not follow this law. What does God's word say about the subject of invariable symmetry and strength?

Eclessiastes 4

8 There was a man all alone;
he had neither son nor brother.
There was no end to his toil,
yet his eyes were not content with his wealth.
“For whom am I toiling,” he asked,
“and why am I depriving myself of enjoyment?”
This too is meaningless—
a miserable business!

THE TRUTH was revealed to him here:

9 Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:
10 If either of them falls down,
one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls
and has no one to help them up.
11 Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm.
But how can one keep warm alone?
12 Though one may be overpowered,
two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

Who is that Man? Christ. We are his workmanship. On the cross, between the neutron (Christ) there were two thieves. The proton is the thief that repented. The electron is the one that went somewhere else in pride. All of nature is a mirror. Know the lesser case and the greater case shows itself clearly.

Originally posted by RomeByFire
I'll make it real simple for you OP; God doesn't have a religion, and no man should act as if he understands Gods will or capabilities.

And by the way, we live in an infinite universe. That means there is no beginning, no end. It's always existed, yet it never has. Two things to note from this:

1. If there is a Creator to our Universe, he would be so far out of the human capacity of perception for us to know. It is unadulterated ignorance to claim to know the inner-workings of God, citing a man-made book written 3,500 years ago and that is paraphrased to subjugate hate and bigotry in today's society (Holier than thou).

2. We live in an infinite universe. More planets in the cosmos than grains of sand on Earth. Yet God sent his only son to save us from our sins, and again, refer to man-made paraphrased subjective 'holy book' that preaches hatred, murder, etc to prove it.

It's okay to believe in religion, but if you're claiming Jesus is the truth you better accept ALL of his supposed 'holiness' as undeniable facts. The ones where it says the punishment for working on Sabbath is death, ones where Moses orders his followers to murder in the name of him, God sending a lion to maul a man to make a point, and the list goes on, and on, and on.

But please, by all means, continue your cherry-picking nature of using passages that you personally like. Just whatever you do, don't sit there and claim ANY sort of truth when you have NONE.

It really is that simple. Your subjective interpretation to a book is not a truth.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


I'm sure Charles will take note of the fact that you completely ignored his test. How are we to trust your expertise in the matter of Hebrew translation when you cannot rise to such a simple challenge? Your premise in this thread has just been obliterated by those more knowledgeable than yourself. I suggest you withdraw to your drawing board and cease this tomfoolery.

I'll make it easier for youHere
Here
Here

For a start

Not looking good is it

Cody

Originally posted by Ismail
You do know what proof means, right OP ?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but quoting the bible to proove that it's accurate isn't called proof.

It's called a logical fallacy.

Or stupidity, depending on your perspective.

All axioms are simply most evident. The final proof comes when no other contradiction or paradox can be found to contradict the axiom we hold. I simply prove to you that there is no other way to God. You can try to find a higher axiom, but you better bring evidence. So far, no other truth reaching for God has been show with evidence. Lacking any other axiom to grab hold of, we have a proof for our evidence as stated.

Do you have a higher axiom to look at and examine? All evidence I can see gives us firm ground to stand on to define Truth the way the Words reveal it to us. Language and morphology is the symbol used by the scribe. I simply have the key to deScribe it for you. Not only do the 22 letters of Hebrew and the 24 of Greek mirror the 46 chromosomes, the words in DNA also form by the same root morphology in the form of amino acids and proteins. Can you find better evidence to form a proof that God told us how to reach him with Word?

Feel free to present a higher axiom. Otherwise, we have many proofs and witnesses to the Same Truth. It stands.

Absolutely nothing in my day to day life suggests even an inkling of anything religious whatsoever.

It only ever comes from other people telling me it's the "truth", when I have the ability to discern it myself.

Jesus Christ is just a phrase now, there's no real existence or meaning behind it or him,
except maybe blind obedience?

I would've have any doubts if the world was as it was 2000 years ago when all the Bible was being written?
Surely it would have been obvious then?

Originally posted by yourmaker
Absolutely nothing in my day to day life suggests even an inkling of anything religious whatsoever.

It only ever comes from other people telling me it's the "truth", when I have the ability to discern it myself.

Jesus Christ is just a phrase now, there's no real existence or meaning behind it or him,
except maybe blind obedience?

I would've have any doubts if the world was as it was 2000 years ago when all the Bible was being written?
Surely it would have been obvious then?

Read all of the posts form me in this thread. How can you explain this away as mere accidental narrative from those who could not possibly have written it down with this level of meaning. Please, give me your rational understanding, but make sure to read my posts and the OP. Refute my words.

If you see Nun as the lady in the Roman Catholic church, then you miss the three sisters. You say twisted sister and your version might be that. Nun is the seed of man into woman. Son is Aleph Nun (Strength of the seed). Mother is Aleph Mem (Strength of the Water).

Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Truth can not be proven through the interpretation of the bible.

Just as soon as you can prove what is written there in is Fact, you may be able to sway a few.

It reminds me of a joke I once heard. .. . .. .

What do you call a Nun in a Blender ?. .. .. . a Twisted Sister. .. .. ..

Which is what you have just done here to "Prove" Truth.

edit on 15-7-2013 by ShadellacZumbrum because: (no reason given)

How can you explain this away as mere accidental narrative from those who could not possibly have written it down with this level of meaning.

it's a type of spell, you know, witchcraft/ sorcery.

they're trying to bind your soul for now so they can eat it later!

seriously!

Originally posted by maes2
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

nice, but what about the world before Christ.

That's the world to come. Genesis 1 is the Creation of Elohim. Genesis 2 is the fallen world of LORD, the sacrifice of the Son to save the fallen. He is bringing us back to paradise. Paradise is the inheritance from the bondage of the refinery.

Deuteronomy 4

19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.

The world to come is the promised land. What do you get as your inheritance in the NEW World on a new Earth?

Deuteronomy 6

10 When the Lord your God brings you into the land he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you—a land with large, flourishing cities you did not build, 11 houses filled with all kinds of good things you did not provide, wells you did not dig, and vineyards and olive groves you did not plant—then when you eat and are satisfied, 12 be careful that you do not forget the Lord, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

It's a large universe.

Originally posted by Annunak1
* Doorbell rings *

You: Hello there i have the truth for you if you accept Christ!

Me: JEZUS CHRIST!!!

I already found the truth, i see it every day when i look in the mirror!...* Slams door *

You:

Which one are you? Aleph, Mem or Tav. The answer is all three, but this does not make you God. This is mistaken. God is one and At One Ment (Atonement) is the only way back if you are fallen from the One. Do kid yourself. Removing Aleph for your own self is pride. You cannot rise above God. We are here to reset in His authority.

When Abraham was asked to give up Issac (Abraham's future self), God was not asking for the Son to be killed. He was asking for Abraham to give the Self to the One first, then God returned it back by taking the scapegoat. Those who deny truth are the scapegoats.

Originally posted by nerbot

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
TRUTH

Who's?

Yes. Truth is who and no what.

Right. The pictographs have been known for a long time. You can cross reference his meanings with Wikipedia. Abraham's language would have been Phoenician. This moved to Hebrew and Aramaic. English is a derivative of East (Hebrew / Phoenician) and Greek (West). Our minds are the same. The 22 letters of Hebrew and the 24 of Greek mirror our East West mind. Just like the seed of life (Sperm) and the egg come together, language comes together by the same process. Just like particle and wave come together with collapsing wave function in physics, the very wave function of information collapsed by consciousness is the Morpheme of particle and wave (light). I have not used the word proof lightly.

As I stated above. One word shows ALL the evidence and proves the truth as what it claims to be. Truth from Word. God is what he says. Until someone demonstrates that our entire reality is not Word and created by this word, then Aleph Bet is the Phonic syllable we need to see the Strength of this house. I dare anyone to knock it down.

Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Dear EnochWasRight,

Here's the bad news. I think your OP jumped to a conclusion before the groundwork was properly laid. That confused the people responding, and allowed them to miss the point completely. They fell back into the arguments they have been accustomed to make. (Not all of the posters, sorry, but you can find them easily enough.

Here's the good news. That link goes to an incredible site! I'm am really grateful you've provided it. There is information there which I've never dreamed of. All the "rationalists," heck, everybody, should spend some time there.

I clicked on the "About" tab to see with whom I was dealing. I'm completely ignorant on the subject, so I suppose I could be fooled, but this looks serious and solid. Here's one paragraph from that section.

After researching the Ancient Hebrew alphabet I discovered that each letter was a picture and this picture provided a meaning to that letter. I also found that the meaning of a Hebrew word could be found within the letters of that word. A good example of this is the Hebrew word (av) meaning "father." The first letter in this word is the aleph, a picture of an ox head and meaning "strength." The second letter is the beyt, a picture of a tent. When the meaning of these two letters are combined we have "the strength of the house," the father.

What Cody is missing, and so did I, is that this is not about modern Hebrew. This is the ancient stuff, where a letter is more than just a letter.

Honestly, I don't know where his study leads, but this is valuable. I would wager that none of us have looked at the Ancient Hebrew language before. I hope to learn a lot there.

Thanks again, EnochWasRight.

With respect,
Charles1952

edit on 15-7-2013 by charles1952 because: grammar

reply to post by EnochWasRight


I'm still waiting for an answer

Cody

You have yet to show one link to prove that your Hebrew is invariable. I have shown you the links. Feel free to spell out the words you use in Hebrew, but if you do, use the letter of Hebrew as I did. Do you deny that Father is Aleph Bet? Do you deny that Mother is Aleph Mem? Do you deny that Son is Aleph Nun?

Do you deny that Truth is Aleph Mem Tav? If you do, you can say, "no, it's emet" or any of the other three uses of Truth. Emet is spelled Aleph Mem Tav. Do you deny this?

Originally posted by cody599
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Nope

You're wrong

I live breathe and speak Hebrew

It's my second language, all the links in the world aren't going to make you right

Have a test

Mah ha shem shell ha bat shell ha haverim acri tovim shell ha ?

Just saying

Cody