Anti-Gravity: Solved! (not kidding)

Originally posted by Serdgiam
I think the more likely explanation for moving large objects is something like this; (its actually pretty darn cool

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edit on 15-7-2013 by Serdgiam because: (no reason given)

dont worry.. seen this guy too. unlikely you can post any of these posed solutions i have not already analysed. his method was impressive nonetheless. but we have other factors in and around egypt that hint that it was not all manual labor based technology.

perfect circles drawn into granite pillars.. going straight through the pillar so that you can see out the back while standing in front. this was supposedly done with copper tools. do u see the problem? the circles are so perfect, they seem laser etched and of course, as usual.. more precise than engineering can accomplish today with it's most advanced technology.

reply to post by filledcup


Well, anyway, I think that having lesser technology almost forces people to be more clever. I have been a member of boards like these long enough to know there really isnt "convincing" anyone of much of anything.

I am actually encouraging you to start actual science! Go for it! Be prepared for lots of failure, and use it to gather data rather than scrap ideas in their entirety. You never know what you might come up with.

Originally posted by zsdfsartzs
If you want to get anywhere you need to release a portion of your advancement in a form that can be verified by someone else. Surely it is possible to fragment your idea into portions of separate value? If you're worried about someone stealing your work then just release the least-valuable portion of your idea to act as a 'public-key' so that others can begin to authenticate your hidden 'private-key'.

Otherwise, why even bother trying to have a discussion? The clues you have left so far are interesting but don't yet add up to enough to bring anyone else in on the development.

Surely if you acknowledge your lack of resources you can see the benefit of harnessing others intellectual power in fleshing this out? You do know that many companies today build open-source software in conjunction with their private advances so as to recruit people and/or supplement a framework that helps develop their secret software? Look at Hadoop, Oracle, hell, most of Linux development falls under that category.

If your public advances inspire anyone else's work that verification should help propel your secrets by building a framework for them.

thank you for this information. it may be helpful. i never really meant to discuss the claim, but need help with how to progress. i definitely see the benefit of harnessing others' intellectual power and resources to flesh this out. it would be much faster. and to be honest, i would rather it be public. but what i dont want is someone taking my idea and making money from it while i get jack squat. if anyone has to make money i definitely have to be one of them. but more importantly, to have my name tied to the discovery and contribution to mankind.

reply to post by Serdgiam
I do agree they are more or less the same. I like that my teacher put the "again" on the end as he constantly told our class to analyze the failure and make corrections then continue, keep going, and yes, be prepared for the unexpected results.
Like you said, you may just end up with a new version of a water bottle even if you were trying to create something else.

reply to post by Serdgiam

I think the more likely explanation for moving large objects is something like this; (its actually pretty darn cool )

The use of levers and counter balance doesn't begin to tell us what was going at coral castle.
And nothing about the Godlike precision of ancient monuments. But it's very cool knowledge
to possess. I can move everything in my house by my self to a different location thru the use
of cardboard to slide on carpet and tipping, walking and balancing. But leedskalnin was moving
loading massive blocks on trucks in minutes from different accounts. Sooooo

reply to post by filledcup


There is nothing at all pointing to "other factors in and around egypt that hint that it was not all manual labor based technology."
There are plenty of threads in the Ancient Civs forum that discuss this and show how all this tech can be done with the tools we know they had. And in fact have been duplicated in today's modern times with the primitive tools of yesteryear.

You are starting to wander away from your own "invention" into some mythical lost technology that has never existed.

reply to post by evc1shop


yeah im seeking to build my cymatics machine first off. i will begin by producing two identical snowflakes as hypothesized in my other thread and go from there. it's pretty easy, just have to drop the temperature rapidly enough to freeze the water droplet while under the effects of the cymatic wave. anyone with a cymatics setup can do it now. the magnetic flux patterns move like living currents which atones for the way in which the flakes themselves grow in the outer edges. has to do with the flow.

that.. i can tell you and the forum. i give it freely.. a very minor achievement. watch it work without the need for failure. place a droplet in an acoustic levitation chamber. when the magnetic shelving is produced and the water droplet bonded to the grid.. hit it with cymatic frequency in the pattern u desire.. and drop temperature till it freezes.. easy. no trial and error.

reply to post by filledcup


Actually the perfect circle thing has been easily replicated using sand drills on the stones. They simply use a cylindrical rod at the top with sand under it and slowly spin until a hole is bored and it has been proven to work on granite. There are numerous sites even showing how this technique has been used to cut rock with a sand based "bandsaw" and are able to cut perfectly straight lines. Limestone is sedimentary rock and considered fairly soft which is why these techniques work well on them.

Originally posted by Serdgiam
reply to post by evc1shop

 

Different words with the same meaning!

Its honestly the most important lesson I have learned though. Failure = data. The more data, the better.

Of course, you are trying to achieve "success," but a lot of times, we learn significantly more from the failure. Its funny when you start off with an idea like this, and end up creating something like a new form of water bottle.

Just have to be willing to go with the flow, so to speak.

Sometimes our ideas are flat out wrong, but the inventions that come from the failure can change the world nonetheless.

note what i said in the OP on 'natural participation'

this discovery itself is the water bottle that other scientists overlooked.

Originally posted by evc1shop
reply to post by Serdgiam

 

I do agree they are more or less the same. I like that my teacher put the "again" on the end as he constantly told our class to analyze the failure and make corrections then continue, keep going, and yes, be prepared for the unexpected results.
Like you said, you may just end up with a new version of a water bottle even if you were trying to create something else.

Yes, the most important part is to keep going. Failure doesnt mean stop, quite the opposite!

The amount of world changing discoveries that were inadvertently discovered is incredible, but if the person exploring them does not have the eyes to see it because they are so focused on one thing, it may be lost until the next great mind comes along and explores the same thing.

Its a beautiful thing, in its way.

Originally posted by randyvs
But leedskalnin was moving loading massive blocks on trucks in minutes from different accounts. Sooooo

Ok.

Originally posted by filledcup
this discovery itself is the water bottle that other scientists overlooked.

Ironically, you missed the point.

The most valuable attitude we have today are those who are willing to actually explore these things for themselves, and not just internet speculation. If that applies to you (actually performing experiments), then I have nothing but encouragement and respect. That doesnt mean I will agree with your conclusions, but that shouldnt be an issue in the true spirit of science and exploration.

Good luck!

Originally posted by Serdgiam
reply to post by filledcup

 

You can also look into how crystals (generally quartz) are used in a vast majority of electronics that use controlled cycles (frequencies) like computers, watches, etc.

For PCs, it can be very educational when it comes to in-depth overclocking and understanding the processes you are messing with!

edit on 15-7-2013 by Serdgiam because: (no reason given)

im one of the best I.T techs in my country.. i began in computers at an early age of 12, before most ppl had one. studying all their intricate depths to full understanding. i can fix anything in I.T. and am pretty well known for solving problems that others in every company i worked for could not solve. problems plagueing those companies for years. for some it comes across as an insult since theyve been trying to solve it for so long.

i live a life of watching inventions i created, and operate just as i expected become released by other ppl. sometimes my inventions were previously released and i was unaware, and other times it shows up in the future.

i am sitting on the future. i have alot more to offer. things that will work. things for the future. a seemingly inconceivable encryption algorithm, bug-less software development, computerized absolute security system (hackability pretty much 0. and i know that no system is 100% secure), and of course an operating system to go with it. but i had to wait for quantum storage.. which i always knew would be the component that provides the speed and capability to parse the operating system lag free. as well as large amounts of memory.

all these things i have sat on for years not having the resources. looking for avenues to begin. not to mention i live in one of the most backward countries on the planet where mediocrity and underachieving attitudes prevail. it is that i am taking a step now into actual development. i can build some of this stuff. i happen to have a friend who is very good at building amplifiers and modifying them so there is actually avenues for me to get what i need here done. really hope it does not turn out to be too expensive at some point. but i will force myself to work with what i can access to create something. and will not be hindered undeservedly God willing. he will guide my path. i cannot imagine leaving this world without making these contributions.

step by step

reply to post by filledcup


Forgive me, but I do not take anyones claims at face value. Only through their actions.

Good luck!

reply to post by Serdgiam


fair enough, and many thanks for your input. i am quite looking forward to building my cymatics machine now. i always wanted one.. but now i NEED one lol

reply to post by Vasa Croe


well, it's what one would call.. "an acceptable logical explanation'. can u link a source? using their logical explanation were they able to exactly replicate vases with small mouths, large bellies and yet, perfectly smooth inner walls in a form of igneous rock?

Originally posted by filledcup
reply to post by Serdgiam

 

fair enough, and many thanks for your input. i am quite looking forward to building my cymatics machine now. i always wanted one.. but now i NEED one lol

After building the cymatics machine (they are even cooler in person, btw), try building an magnetic field generator that does the same thing but with ferrous material and draw correlations between the patterns exhibited by the two. Then you can try out ultrasonic transducers and their effect on water. Regardless of if you have "done all of this already," give it a go with the new data from the cymatics results to compare patterns!

Its quite interesting to see the over-arcing physics at work in our universe in such a clear way. It makes it so much easier to visualize than to just look at the equations.

Since you're looking more for advice on bringing this to fruition rather than discussing the actual breakthrough, I would recommend you not trust patent offices or non-disclosure agreements. Patents and NDA's have a long history of being easily and quickly ripped off or stolen in some form or another, and if most food companies won't even patent their recipes or agree to NDA's with chemists that should give you insight into the danger of sharing information.

Since you seem interested in starting via the cymatics route I would suggest using a Quartz Opto-acoustic modulator to build your waveform. It's a standard piece of optical communication equipment used for relays that goes for around $100 and can generate several Mhz of waveform bandwidth modulation. If you had the money, a Lithium niobate modulator that can do 10 Ghz of mod bandwidth runs for about $5k. They're used for vibrationally modifying laser signals but they double as piezo-transductive signal generators.

You can generate the electrical control signal with a standard DAC (Analog.com sells them and the amplifiers rather cheaply, an SPI to USB interface is only around $5-20 depending on speed and the card even cheaper.) I've been looking into this for another project related to reservoir computation, an entirely new framework for computation that can be run in something as simple as a bucket of water (or something as complicated as a 'laser storm' confined to a modulated fiber cable.)

You might find it interesting since it can outperform silicon at certain machine learning tasks by a factor of ~1000 or more, and using a standard algorithim can re-create universal digital computation (although at most tasks underperforming silicon.) It was inspired by an understanding / modeling of the human brain and is one of the most promising new areas of research into cheap / low overall capital computing. (The modulators / fiber that it runs on has a capital investment cost many factors below integrated circuit fabrication.)

Just on the off chance that you find this information useful.

arxiv.org...
arxiv.org...

reply to post by filledcup


Al Bielek said they had come up with anti gravity and also nailed time travel.. but the smart asses ripped a 40year hole in the space time continuim when coming up with invisibility and now planet earth is on a different timeline than it should be..we are probably only starting to feel the #ty benefits now..and the original tests were back in the 40s.

Originally posted by Serdgiam

Originally posted by filledcup
reply to post by Serdgiam

 

fair enough, and many thanks for your input. i am quite looking forward to building my cymatics machine now. i always wanted one.. but now i NEED one lol

After building the cymatics machine (they are even cooler in person, btw), try building an magnetic field generator that does the same thing but with ferrous material and draw correlations between the patterns exhibited by the two. Then you can try out ultrasonic transducers and their effect on water. Regardless of if you have "done all of this already," give it a go with the new data from the cymatics results to compare patterns!

Its quite interesting to see the over-arcing physics at work in our universe in such a clear way. It makes it so much easier to visualize than to just look at the equations.

edit on 15-7-2013 by Serdgiam because: (no reason given)

that sounds more like ur own experimentation my friend lol. im sure that such things will be entertaining to say the least, but i wont actually need the frequencies to build my engine. in fact when the engine is built and turned on and shown to function, it will tell me the frequencies. maybe after that the research ur suggesting may come in handy. the reason why i want to nail the frequencies is for other applications. my prototype will do one thing and one thing only.. lift off the ground with no mechanical parts. further development will introduce directional control, craft dimensions and various locked frequency applications etc. i aim to contruct a bare naked engine. i dont need the cymatics machine to build it.. but in addition to being used normally as a frequency generator, i will also use it as a frequency monitor for my engine for confirming data.

reply to post by filledcup


In time, you will see the relevance. Or not.

I am interested to see what you come up with.