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Daring to be Different in the Black Community

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posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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reply to post by thesaneone
 


So, that's the ONLY way to attain a better life? Belittle the community from which you came, while BENEFITTING from the freedoms, they DIED FOR?

Seems to me you're scared of reality. How can something be past-tense, when the ramifications are in future-present.

You never existed, POOF!



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:20 PM
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What I got from the OP is that she feels shunned by her family and her people for having vastly different views. However, the OP did open a can of worms but that was not intentionally. people ran with it and had a field day. Sadly to say, I feel like topics like this are hard to keep civil, as this thread, like many others, have shown.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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Again, RACISM IS A POLITICAL AND SOCIAL CONSTRUCT!

I can be racist but if you're white; you have NO direct consequence in my being racist.
However, I was once told, the first person to throw out racism usually, internalizes that feeling.

Besides, the institutionalized racism, nothing has happened to me to cause me to be aware of my social standing in white supremacy.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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I don't believe you're black. Based on your grammatical construct;



For real? What is this, the Joe Biden Syndrome?



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:27 PM
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reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


I guess what she is saying is a community can belittle you but how dare you belittle your own community.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by CSpitta
 

You don't like to hear someone speaking the truth... Like Bill Cosby did a decade or so ago. Y'all hated him for that tirade he went on. smh.
edit on 15-7-2013 by kimish because: i was a bad boy




Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by cavtrooper7
 


Brother, you see the delusions in the thread, all of us that see the delusional minds are the ones being ostracized. And it's because we see clearly and those that don't are envious and angry.


You are so clueless it's not even funny.

I don't really care, but would just like to point out you're so delusional that you feel like this thread is against YOU and "your brothers who see the truth". "Ostracized". Laughing. Out. Loud. Shaking. My. Head. You/the topic are so far from how you envision yourself/it that it's nauseating but it's probably just an automatic defense mechanism to keep yourself safe and sane. You wouldn't get called out by people like myself if you weren't such a fool and so insistent on throwing your 2 cents in when you'd be better off just keeping your hands in your pockets.

So, so clueless. Sad considering you have got to be atleast 25 and probably closer to 30. I will try hard to never hurt you again. It's tough though, me being so envious of your supreme insight and wisdom, brother. cough.
edit on 15-7-2013 by LizardSlicks because: detail



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:29 PM
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I can toast to that!

That's thing though; WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE SHUNNING HER? I know the exact profile of the OP. This stems from some deep-held inadequacy. No one cares that she has great self-esteem but WHY does it have to be propped up on the backs of the oppressed. That's for any marginalized people.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:32 PM
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posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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reply to post by LizardSlicks
 


Aye!!! Thanks for the backup...he's cool...



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by CSpitta
reply to post by thesaneone
 


So, that's the ONLY way to attain a better life? Belittle the community from which you came, while BENEFITTING from the freedoms, they DIED FOR?

Seems to me you're scared of reality. How can something be past-tense, when the ramifications are in future-present.

You never existed, POOF!



Sorry to inform you. Probably before your time. I am not sure of the amounts who died from both races but it was not until whites who stood up for the blacks started dieing that civil rights for all were taken seriously. At that time blacks dieing did not count. Whites dieing did. That is something not really taught in Black History month. The idea was equal rights for all. Not for any special group. Something to think about.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by thedigirati
to the OP, applause,

To those of you that have "dissed" the OP, I can only say one thing to all of you, "it could be worse, you could have been born native americans, they just plain got wiped out".


I could have been born native american as opposed to........

........what?



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Kashai
I feel that if Zimmerman would have simply identified himself as the leader of the Neighborhood Watch. It is very possible that Travon Martin would have understood what was going on.

From what I have seen in relation to the trail and I watched all of it there was no mention of the fact that Travon actually was a resident of that neighborhood, he actually had every right to be their. His Father who was divorced from Travon's mother lived there. Given Mr. Big shot and Captain of the neighborhood watch should have known that as well as have known the name of every block in his "territory".

Travon Martin was essentially convicted of being involved in a crime and was killed for it. This despite the fact that was a resident of that community and was unarmed.

Juries have convicted innocent people so every reason exist that they have freed the guilty. Zimmerman is guilty of not having identified himself and of not adhering to the instruction's offered by a 911 representative.

Umm probably not but possible. Having been a thug at the same age of Martin probably the only way would have been if Zimmerman already had his gun out but even that is not certain. At that age you think you are invincible. I know I have attacked men who had guns out at that age. I was lucky. It seems Martin was not.


If anything the State of Florida has presented that it is Ok to chase a person one thinks is a criminal and if an altercation results, it is OK to kill them.

Meaning it is ok to kill someone based upon an assumption.

That is wrong.....

Any thoughts?


edit on 15-7-2013 by Kashai because: Modifed content



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:42 PM
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I NEVER THOUGHT I would speak with Jim Crow!
You informed me of nothing but idiocy and delusions of grandeur in surmising that no black deaths in the civil rights era was of value until, whites died.

You're my favorite type of racist.
You have to be #1 at everything.
Please list all the whites who I should thank for my freedom. I mean, it was taught to me they were apart of the struggle and didn't isolate themselves. A one-for-all type attitude if you would....



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot

Originally posted by CSpitta
reply to post by thesaneone
 


So, that's the ONLY way to attain a better life? Belittle the community from which you came, while BENEFITTING from the freedoms, they DIED FOR?

Seems to me you're scared of reality. How can something be past-tense, when the ramifications are in future-present.

You never existed, POOF!



Sorry to inform you. Probably before your time. I am not sure of the amounts who died from both races but it was not until whites who stood up for the blacks started dieing that civil rights for all were taken seriously. At that time blacks dieing did not count. Whites dieing did. That is something not really taught in Black History month. The idea was equal rights for all. Not for any special group. Something to think about.



Do you see what you just did! RIGHTS for blacks DIDN'T MATTER when JUST blacks were dying for it, no, it only BECAME IMPORTANT WHEN WHITES STARTED DYING too. Is there not a problem with that? So a handful of white people recognized the injustice and put themselves on the line for it, they were moral, strong people. Nobody cared when it was just a bunch of blacks dying. A few white people died for it and suddenly the whole thing changes, becomes relevant...I'm not sure what you meant with your post at all. You're either saying that black lives are not as valuable as white lives or that society at large doesn't care about what is happening to black people. Inequality or indifference is what I'm getting.
edit on 15-7-2013 by LizardSlicks because: clarify



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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ATTENTION!!!!




The bickering and personal remarks/attacks stop NOW!!!!!!!!
You are responsible for your own posts.

We expect civility and decorum within all topics.

Those who choose to continue down this path will face temporary posting bans.

No need to reply to this post...just heed its message............



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by Tw0Sides
 


Hi Nancy Grace! I heard her little nonsense rant about Gacy too.

The only jury in this country that would have the audacity to convict Zimmerman would have had 1 Al Sharpton and 5 clones.

Gacy was a sexual predator so of course he would try to be close to potential victims. That's a far cry from hating black people and mentoring one (what would be the goal here?). My logic isn't lacking, and yours seems non existent.

edit on 14-7-2013 by Domo1 because: (no reason given)


Speaking of which, the MSM pushes the race issue big time, especially CNN!!!
That only fuels the fire....





reply to post by ButterCookie
 

Great thread BTW.....

Stay strong and never change.

Much respect~
snarky



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:53 PM
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posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:55 PM
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The racism on this site is so sad and so palpable, it's scary. For once, white people, put yourself in the shoes of black people. If...

Your people were stolen
Your women raped
Your houses burned
Your income lessened
Your men demonized
Your history erased and re-written
Your children murdered

FOR HUNDREDS of YEARS

wouldn't you be upset? Wouldn't you feel rage? Wouldn't you feel hopeless? This country is not "post-racial" whatever that is supposed to mean. There are so many cases of blatantly racist crimes being committed every day, not to mention the comments just on twitter alone would make you think it was still the 50's. White people, it's time for us to sit down, shut up, and relax our sense of entitlement. We are NOT entitled to a critique of black people or their culture or their mistakes until we have honestly addressed and fixed ours, and we are FARRRRR from that day.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by CSpitta
reply to post by LizardSlicks
 


I disposed of his dense logic with ether! Look at his username. I'm sure it's on birth certificate too. He'll, he's probably married to the OP!

Where is she by the way...???

Don't be alarmed, I'm colored.


I'm here. Sexy afro and all.

What's up?

By the way, I want to remind everyone that this is not a race-baiting thread, a Zimmerman Trial discussion, or a Political Party bash. I mentioned those things about me to list examples of reasons that I appear 'different' in the quote unquote 'black community'.



posted on Jul, 15 2013 @ 10:01 PM
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If you are honest and sincere in your words, I tip my hat to you. It is this mindset that will truly set us free...




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