Is Atheism a religion of War?

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by Thundersmurf

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by luciddream

 

People who are not interested in tennis would not be on a tennis forum. Atheist's are interested in religion.

How can you be so ignorant and presumptuous? Generalizing like that is like me saying fat people love reading, or that gays enjoy strawberries. I'm sure some of them do, but you can't purport to know that as fact.

The religion forum has many atheist's joining in on the discussions, even starting threads on the religion forum.
Are you saying that atheist's do not enjoy talking about religion? Even if they are opposing God they are in a way obsessed with God.
If one wears the 'Atheist' flag one will jump in and defend that flag. Religions wear a flag or label and they band together - and then there can be conflict. Conflicting sides is what makes war.

edit on 15-7-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)

You're missing the whole point. Atheists aren't a group. We're all individual and the only thing we have in common is that we don't need or want a religion in our lives. There's no atheist code of conduct, no atheist rules, no atheist teachings. If someone brought up the fact that they were an atheist, that's no more important or interesting to me than saying they had a cheese sandwich for lunch.

I just don't get why religious groups think that atheists are a group. Are people who don't play football a group? Are people who don't read newspapers a group with shared beliefs and motives? It doesn't make sense.

I have zero interest in discussing religion. My some other people who are also atheist might, but you can't say ''athiests love discussing religion'. That's no different than saying non sports fan love discussing sport.

reply to post by Thundersmurf

I have zero interest in discussing religion. My some other people who are also atheist might, but you can't say ''athiests love discussing religion'. That's no different than saying non sports fan love discussing sport.

Then why are you on this forum?

I would say that many other threads, and the number of posts here attacking your premise, prove it quite well.

They claim atheism isn't a religion, ignoring that a religion is simply a belief system which is strongly defended.

They claim they aren't about war, while making constant war, culturally, on Christians.

They belittle, insult, badger, and harass.

They band together in squads, jumping all over Christian posts in all areas online, and everywhere in society.

Seems they love warring with those who don' believe as they do.

Either way, it's all good. We know why we are hated by some. I will take His love over theirs any day!

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by BlueMule

 

How is it a religion and not a philosophy? What about it makes it a religion, specifically, and not a philosophy? I agree with Destroy: atheism is a philosophy, not a religion. Sans any kind of higher power or supernatural force, it cannot be called a religion. That is my opinion, which I am more than willing to amend if you can prove your case.

edit on 14-7-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)

According to the dictionary, religion is, among other definitions -

a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

- link

Now that we have established that atheism is, in fact, a religion, let's address the point of the OP.

Originally posted by FreeThinkerIdealist
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Relating to ATS? Do you notice how many topics that have nothing to do with religion where the religious swoop down and claim their selves and their beliefs, and how they think God is the reason for it all? Do you not see the Christian presence on the forums?
*snip*

So, if a Christian states an opinion based on his beliefs, he's "at war", but if anyone else does the same, they are simply freely expressing what they think? Do you hear yourself?

Nice job! You proved the OP's point.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


Would you mind posting that definition alongside a definition of philosophy, just to prove your case? I'm not convinced that philosophy is not a more accurate label.

Originally posted by Darkmask
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

Uhmm!.....What about the crusades? You saying that Cristians didn't wage war.

You mean when European leaders had enough of hundreds of years of Muslim invasions, and took action? Those Crusades?

Originally posted by TheGreazel
Another one of those highly insulting threads ment for the Rant section.

If you dont respect people with other beliefs why should they respect yours ?

You ever read about what the Church and the Vatican did in Europe for centuries ?

I geuss they dont teach that in your schools.

Did you post the same thing on the thread in this same section asking the same question about Christianity? If not, you should withdraw your comment, or add one there.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


That's a pretty accurate assessment of many Christians publicly observed today, particularly here on ATS. Maybe you don't consider them Christians, but I'm concerned at the inspiration they take from your god.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

Would you mind posting that definition alongside a definition of philosophy, just to prove your case? I'm not convinced that philosophy is not a more accurate label.

Knock yourself out. Use the same dictionary source. I already provided the link.

I find it fascinating that the atheists posting focus in whether or not it's a religion, and mostly ignore the war aspect. Equally fascinating that none seem to have an issue with a similar thread asking the same question about Christianity.

Nope, no bias here....

reply to post by AfterInfinity


No, it isn't accurate at all. That subject was opened in another thread, too, which I discredited there. I won't give this new one the favor of a response.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


Patience young padawan. Lets keep the veiled hostility to a minimum. I'm on my phone right now, so my abilities are limited, sorry.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


I don't appreciate your hostile attitude. You are particularly unwelcoming of any conversation at all.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


What hostile attitude? The only hostility I see is from atheist posting all sorts of attacks against Christians. Almost every comment directed at "religion" is actually directed at Christians. As for the definition, can understand being on a phone.

From the same source, for philosophy -

all learning exclusive of technical precepts and practical arts

and

a discipline comprising as its core logic, aesthetics, ethics, metaphysics, and epistemology

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


What you see as attacks, I see as rigorous testing. It is a process of reevaluation.

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

No easter bunny ever came in real life and admitted he is God

And..... how do you know this? a book written about him you say? oh then harry Potter would be real in about 2000 yrs?Easter Bunny existed, but the book is plagiarism and made Easter bunny into Jesus! Sheez!
How could you explain bunny laying eggs? only on Easter. its magical and a miracle. The chocolatey goodness can only means Easter Bunny exist.

This is where it gets very interesting. The Easter Bunny (laying idea bombs,EGGS) exists the same way Jesus did, same time period, one is human nailed and bleeding on a T form; the other is a rabbit hiding 'eggs' ideaform with a basket full of chocolates from Herod; EasterBunny (PAGAN STYLE) becomes the prophet evangelical Jesus. Its ridiculous yet worshiped as a truism, the 'calvary', the Hills of Golgothian skulls that became the representative; yellow marshmallow 'PEEPS' like Catholic wafers to be eaten on Easter Morning. The Feast is one never bespoken because all of the message from God is hidden in mispeak, deliberate non speak and OBSCURITY ON PURPOSE to CONFUSE US And potentially watch the destruction OF US it could feed upon.
Its the EMOTIVE FACTOR (energyform).

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Discussing beliefs is one thing, but unending derogatory remarks, as are visible daily in this forum, aren't "reevaluating" anything. A lot of people attack. The OP has a valid point. Plus, claiming no atheists ever started a war is flat out foolish.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
reply to post by AfterInfinity

 

Discussing beliefs is one thing, but unending derogatory remarks, as are visible daily in this forum, aren't "reevaluating" anything. A lot of people attack. The OP has a valid point. Plus, claiming no atheists ever started a war is flat out foolish.

Name one Atheist (or atheist country) that created funded a war that is historically documented and overthrew another country, province or township and murdered all believers in God. Atheism is just an 'idea' opposite of God Belief and has every ability and reason to be as any belief system exists as it is allowed by God to have "All Thought" ALLOWED. CUBA, the only one that still exists as a ISLAND; Is Fidal Castro a Catholic or disenfranchised Satanist or a power hungry human believing in Socialism (Trotsky-Lenin) to the point it pretends to be God as a socialistitic dispassionistic OVERLORD.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Science & Math.....Numbers dont lie. I dont need a deity crutch to get thru my life.I can handle it all myself. Dont need to throw my hopes into a fairey tale. The here & now VS the wonderful after life (IF) I live my life as per the biblical way..... And that IF is a damn big one. Would rather put my time & energy into the HERE & NOW. Peace & have a great day.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


If Hitler was a stamp collector, does that me he killed Jews because he was a Stamp Collector?

People try to make Atheism into a religion or actual entity.. but in reality, it the same as someone who is a doctor also collects stamp.