Breaking News! George Zimmerman found not guilty.

reply to post by TheJourney


Thankfully no, it's a good sign. If they were going to happen, I would think it would have happened shortly after the verdict. There are protests tomorrow though, got to watch for agent provocateurs if anyone here decides to attend one.

reply to post by timidobserver


from what i have read a gang banger kid, not a single tear from me. it just one less hood rat that society will have to deal with.


i can see the back lash that could come from this. every news station was covering it so every one knows about it. if the damn news would keep there damn nose out of it there would be no fears of riots or any thing.


just the way i see this thing...

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

We don't have to racially profile you, your all criminals anyway.

I cannot agree with this post.

This is the big problem right here, posts like this will be construed to make this out to be a RACE issue.

I am betting whoever posted this blanket racism was actually doing it in jest as they meant the opposite. Let's hope so.

Because calling all people of a "race" criminals is the height of ignorance and simply unacceptable.

Originally posted by Astrocyte
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

Aye...Seriously, just read the word "probability" look it up, and take it into account. It means its not a frequent occurence i.e. rare. That it happens, I don't deny. That it can be considered something likely to happen, is ABSURD.

Bullocks. A young man not too far from where I live was recently convicted of manslaughter because he killed someone in a bar fight with one punch.

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by PLASIFISK

Originally posted by usmconslaught

Originally posted by seabag
Hey, you can disagree but the important thing is that THE JURY AGREED WITH ME!

WORD!

Super Word!

I'm glad he got off.

Now these blacks know they can and will be killed.

Wanna be thugs, non-thugs, light skin, dark skin....don't mater.

If your black you better take this as a lesson learned.

We don't have to racially profile you, your all criminals anyway.

Justice at last!!!

I know this is sarcasm, but does it really matter what their colors were? It mattered to the press since they wanted to make it a white and black thing, but in the end both their colors was a moot point.

The lesson learned here is if you live in Florida and you decide to beat the crap out of someone they can shoot you. I don't think it matters the color of the person who is raining blows on your head....

It is sarcasm.

It wasn't a white thing. It was a black thing though.

Which was part of zimmermans motivation.

Black males were breaking in houses.

Had tray on been anything else but black, Zimmerman may have let him be.

reply to post by Whatsreal


In the sane places, no one has to "take a beating like a man"....... That is an absurd notion. Should a woman take a raping like a woman? She was wearing those slutty clothes afterall. She was asking for trouble walking through the neighborhood alone at night.

Originally posted by NISMOALTI

i can see the back lash that could come from this. every news station was covering it so every one knows about it. if the damn news would keep there damn nose out of it there would be no fears of riots or any thing.


just the way i see this thing...

The news reporting on this is NOT the problem.

The problem is that the media LIES constantly and will make up complete fabrications in order to "push their agenda" whom or whatever that may be.

We could report the truth all day long and it wouldn't be a big issue. The issue comes when lies are injected purposely to create a "issue" out of it.

Originally posted by PLASIFISK


Sooooooo he was wrong for walking through the neighborhood at night in a hoodie.

No, and it wasn't wrong for Zimmerman to follow him either. When Martin circled back and decided to kick his butt that is where all the wrong started.

reply to post by Astrocyte


What does crack have to do with the case? Or racial profiling? Trayvon was wearing a hoodie at night, his race would not have been obvious to Zimmerman until he got up close. So Zimmerman "profiled" him from a distance, before even being able to determine his race.

I don't see a miscarriage of justice here. A six woman jury, one of whom was a minority, heard the case and found Zimmerman not guilty. Any thinking, rational person would be pleased to learn that the verdict was based on evidence, not emotion or popular media race baiting.

Since the evidence shows Zimmerman was attacked, feared for his life, and acted in self defense, I don't see the miscarriage of justice here.

Originally posted by PLASIFISK


Had tray on been anything else but black, Zimmerman may have let him be.

How do you actually know that?

Do you have evidence showing this is true?

Or is this your opinion which lacks any real facts or evidence?

reply to post by DeadSeraph


HAHA. You are hilarious.

How many bar fights happen? Now how many people die in bar fights? I don't have the exact statistics, but having been punched in the face before a few times - and miraculously survived! - I am sure that the odds are low that you will die in a fist fight.

Though, of course, it happens sometimes.

Originally posted by Astrocyte
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

They are purposely avoiding kill shots and yes they know of them very well.

Are you friggen serious? Have you ever watched an MMA fight? The notion that every one of their punches, jabs, elbows, knees and kicks follows a carefully selected path STRAINS CREDULITY.

Though I'm not that surprised that 3 people were dumb enough to not analyze the sheer implausibility of that argument.

Insulting peoples intelligence generally doesn't help you get your point across. Having seen the evidence myself and having been the victim of a brutal assault myself, I can assure you that blows to the head are more than capable of killing people. I was lucky enough to possess both a thick viking skull and the luck of someone who had the conscience to stop the attackers, or I wouldn't be here having this conversation with you today.

The fact I am aware of MANY cases of physical assaults/fights ending in death does not make me dumb. At the very least I'm not dumb enough to go and do your own research for you.

Originally posted by Astrocyte
reply to post by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

 

Racial profiling actually happens. I don't want to give the impression that this is always in the forefront of peoples minds, because in most cases it isn't, but very often we have built into us via social conditioning certain preconceptions of particular types of people upon seeing them.

I think it is extremely unfair to jump the gun and pretend that blacks aren't in a severely handicapped position with regard to social status. I mentioned earlier the effect of crack laws on the black community. Crack coc aine is pharmacologically identical to powder coc aine. But since crack became a "pandemic" in the 80's, there's been a 100-1 drug policy which punishes crack coc aine related offenses 100 times worse than powder coc aine offenses. The net effect on this policy on the black community is astounding. 1 out of 3 black men will spend time in prison in their life. Since crack is cheaper than powder coc aine, its mostly poor inner city people who are affected by this law; and it just so happens that the majority of these poor inner city people are blacks.

Any socially conscious person can't help but see this as a miscarriage of the justice system. Sometimes, it seems blacks and their supporters are taking the "racial profiling" arguments to comical lengths. Sometimes, they're just angry with the overall condition of their community. Understandable, although it's not as prevalent as they imagine it to be. My point is: its plausible that racial profiling played into George Zimmermans decision to approach Treyvon Martin. And so long as blacks end up in prisons for non-violent drug related offenses which keep their communities struggling to enter the American mainstream, it's hard not to sympathize with their position.

So, perhaps you should expand your reading into this area.

Justice is in the eye of the beholder, but the case was tried in court and a verdict was decided upon, with the most unbiased and tainted jurors possible. It isn't perfect, but our justice system works because both sides get to be heard and decisions are made, which are final. Just because it's not justice in your eyes, doesn't change the fact that the evidence wasn't enough to convict.

reply to post by PLASIFISK

It is sarcasm.

if that was sarcasm, i think you should watch how you employ it in the future. you also might want to toss up *sarcasm* at the bottom so your post isn't misconstrued.

if that truly was sarcasm, then take the above as helpful tips to avoid a messy situation on a delicate subject.

Originally posted by ker2010

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by shell69
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

This was this mistake on this day... if you ask me!

Actually his mistake was not being armed himself. By the looks of it everyone in this country just needs to get a holster and walk around with firearms 1880's style.

So, do you believe he should have carried a gun (illegal since he was 17) and shot the "creepy *bleep* cracker", instead of assaulting him, and that would make things alright?

Martin committed a felony. Assault. Deadly force is authorized and just to prevent a felony from being committed to your person.

reply to post by PLASIFISK

Had tray on been anything else but black, Zimmerman may have let him be.

If Martin was not raciest and mistook Zimmerman for being white, or a "Creepy " (you know what) cracker". He may have let Zimmerman be, instead of assaulting him.

reply to post by Xtrozero

Once again it was the press that decided it was a race issue.

Exactly!

What else but race can sell a joke of a showtrial to 300,000,000 Americans?

The country bought into this more than the OJ trial and for what, a riot?

I guess the profits from the trial outwieghed the cost of any riot that will ensue so....

Always about money, always.

reply to post by PLASIFISK


Did I say it was wrong? No. However, Zimmerman wasn't wrong for being suspicious of a person thus attired and tracking him, regardless of weather.

Was it wrong for Trayvon to take issue with it and get physically violent? Yes. If you get physically violent, then you can't cry when it gets dished back at you. Self defense.

I won't even get into Trayvon's "creepy ass cracker" statement.

What, you still believe only white people hate? Oh, dear.

reply to post by Jerk_Idiot


It happens to all of us.

We all know no one did anything wrong until there was an assault.

Martin was free to go where he wanted George was free to go where he wanted.

Unfortunately one of those people decided to punish the other which was illegal.

Some say it was George the evidence says it was Martin. The truth is it doesn’t matter because the only one that was known and witnessed as the aggressor was Martin which gave George the LEGAL right to defend himself even with a gun.

Originally posted by Astrocyte
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

HAHA. You are hilarious.

How many bar fights happen? Now how many people die in bar fights? I don't have the exact statistics, but having been punched in the face before a few times - and miraculously survived! - I am sure that the odds are low that you will die in a fist fight.

Though, of course, it happens sometimes.

So you think people should let tough people just beat them up?

According to the official FBI . Gov statistics website

Roughly two people die EVERY DAY in the USA from fists and feet attacks.

For something that you think is rare, I can show factually to be an everyday occurrence!

According to that 5.7 % of the murders listed were from "Personal weapons
(hands, fists, feet,etc.)1".