The Language of Vampyr

Sorry, I'm on some kind of intellectual roll with this thing, as I've been mulling it over, so I guess I'm not quite through yet.....

As to some other aspect to consider about "what" they are doing, and why I keep coming back to the associations with DARPA, but I see other agency involvement, as well, in some very specific areas. I don't even know how to plow back through and find it right now, but there was a still shot of one of their videos that particularly captured my attention as related to Projects MK and Monarch, which started separately, for different represented, at least, reasons, but seemed somehow later to become more enmeshed.....

The picture was two women, seemingly twins, or even the same woman in mirror imaging, appearing to be rising out of or sitting in a stone well, stone wall behind them, naked, Aryan features (blonde), facing one another, but looking up, eyes closed, arms outstretched, in an encompassing and reaching out way.....

This immediately triggered for me the Monarch program's interest in twins, and Ultra's fixation of using alters.....and their appearance of being blonde, and pale skinned, said Aryan in my mind, as well, and the mirror like, exact imaging from appearance to gesture.

This, combined with the descriptions I read about the videos: i.e. pulsating, hypnotic music, flashing lights, and graphic content....all triggered for me thoughts of entrainment. What is taken in, observed, and the neural affect this may trigger, in what is then, emitted in your mind..... Ultra was about such research, as well.
Tetra50

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Hiya, Tetra! I chose to add this information as a "reply" to your post not because I'm telling YOU anything but, rather, because you bring up many great points. It's addressed to all of us.

Make of it what you will, but the following excerpt from award-winning journalist Gus Russo's article, Is Uncle Sam A Closet Ufologist?, might have some bearing here in light of certain comments from FL and other tidbits turned up by the ATS family.

Then there is Jim, whose professional history in the subject goes back to his personal involvement in the Stargate project in the 1970’s and as a participant in the legendary “Working Group” meetings in the eighties. As one of the intel community’s most senior medical analysts, Jim frequently communicates with UFOlogists.

Chris Iverson believes that Tom and Jim clearly have differing agendas, noting, “Jim is the person I have had the most contact with over the last several months and he seems to be interested in the spreading of viral memes over the internet, particularly in relation to this subject.”…

“The whole subject,” Jim says in wonderfully measured speech, “is composed of three components: delusion, sociological groupthink, and a kernel of truth.” Jim then reminds that he is first and foremost a medical scientist. “My interest in this subject is much, much more professional than it is personal. That is, 90 to 95% of all persons who are engaged fully with this [UFO] subject are psychiatrically ill, and by that I mean that they are on medication or should be.” Jim elaborates that “viral memes,”[see below] in which disturbed people seek validation in numbers on the web, is, or should be, a growing public health concern. That said, Jim nonetheless has a real interest in UFO’s, and seemingly with good reason.

Both Tom and Jim seem to share at least one rationale for their internet excursions: studying the frightening potential of “viral internet memes.”

Coined by evolutionary theorist Richard Dawkins in 1976 (The Selfish Gene), a meme is a unit of cultural information that evolves the way a gene propagates from one organism to another, and subject to all the analogous unintended mutations. In the view of many, computers and blogs could function as powerful meme “replicators.”

Richard Brodie, the creator of Microsoft Word, notes, “Most of these viruses of the mind are spread because they are intriguing or frightening or inspiring, and not necessarily because they're true. That's the problem.” It doesn’t take much intuition to envision an enemy creating memes that can be used to destabilize a society, or a freelance predator utilizing them to cozy up to potential victims. Caryn Anscomb writes online,

“The UFO community has been deeply penetrated by the manipulators of information, who couldn’t really give a fig whether there might be any valuable data pertaining to Aliens and contact hidden behind the deafening noise. That’s not their business; their business is information warfare.”

www.realityuncovered.net...

And:

Memes are contagious ideas that replicate like viruses from mind to mind. The Internet is like a Petri dish in which memes multiply rapidly. Fed by fascination, incubated in the feverish excitement of devotees transmitting stories of cosmic significance, the UFO meme mutates into new forms, some of them wondrous and strange.

"The Roswell incident" is but one variation of the UFO meme. On the Internet, Schmitt's words are hyperlinked to those of other UFO sleuths and legions of interested bystanders like myself, as fascinated by the psychodynamics of the subculture as by the "data" exchanged as currency in that marketplace. Before we examine a few fragments, let's pause to remember what the Internet really IS…

…Certain phenomena, including UFOs and religious symbols, elicit powerful projections. We think we're seeing "out there" what is really inside us. Because projections are unconscious, we don't know if we're looking at iron filings obscuring a magnet or the magnet itself. Carl Jung said UFOs invite projections because they're mandalas - archetypal images of our deep Selves. Unless we separate what he think we see from what we see, we're bound to be confused.

Repetition makes any statement seem true. Hundreds of cross-referenced links on the Web create a matrix of even greater credibility. In print, we document assertions with references. Footnotes are conspicuous by their absence on the Web. Information is self-referential. Symbols and images point to themselves like a ten-dimensional dog chasing its own tails. "Roswell" may be the name of the game, but what does the name really say?

www.ctheory.net...

Just some extracurricular food for thought.

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Hey Baddogma: I replied to you in the middle, sort of , replying to Abeverage, and didn't want you to think I had not responded, so I wrote this as well, to make sure you see my reply to you.
Tetra

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reply to post by The GUT


Sometimes when I pose a question it is rhetorical or to get anyone reading to think about it and draw their own conclusion until more evidence is forthcoming. I do have my own theories, but I would like to see some more evidence to justify them.

reply to post by tetra50


Please see my response to The Gut, not a gut response just a response... lol

Originally posted by abeverage
Sometimes when I pose a question it is rhetorical or to get anyone reading to think about it and draw their own conclusion until more evidence is forthcoming. I do have my own theories, but I would like to see some more evidence to justify them.

Yeah, I can be tricky, too. But in a good way I hope...as I think you are as well. I left my own somewhat educated clues in the last couple of posts hint-hint. Plato asked questions he felt he already had the answers to, if you get my drift and I know you do.

However, it's a sign of life fully-engaged, imo, when one is willing to come to some conclusions and has no fear of stating them. I can always offer sincere apologies for being wrong, but it's rather hard to apologize for being "careful" to the point of having no opinion.

I would pose this question to Ayndryl and FL: Do you really KNOW who all of your contacts, and even members, are? Might the gentle author of the subtle Haiku turn out to be a ninja?

Sweet dreams, Doll...catch me if u can...

reply to post by tetra50


This is the one you're thinking of there;









God and the Bad Geometry

That's the Freemasons factoring in the Bad sacred Geometry with regards to the Cult of Lilith, and the inverted Pentagram, pondering that though one could never allow such naughty girls to join the Lodge, it might be instructive to learn her ways in order to seduce the general populace, or even get her devotees working for you...the irony is that the dancer is worth far more than the rest of the creeps put together.

It would support the idea that they may be, in fact, recruiting. But from what I read of their videos (didn't watch any of them) I would be worried what I was being recruited for, exactly. Not only that, but the whole concept of an "anti-language," as Ayndryl described, (as I've repeated so many times, I'm sure everyone's sick of reading it), was for their group to be able to communicate with one another whilst in the company of people not of their group, and not be understood by the "outsiders." Nothing like people standing around talking about you right in front of you, and you have no idea......has a kind of social nightmarish quality to it..

It's a maneuver intended to dispel any aura of intrigue and exclusivity regarding the site contents and participants by quasi recruiting a pair of useful idiots from ATS and allowing them to post crappy crayon drawings in conjunction with shallow cliched quotations...but hey it's their site

As the last cluster of posts recount, many posts are slapped onto an existing post and then meander off to all reading... so never feel that you must reply to me, Tetra, or hurt my feelings... I am, after all, an internet quasi-personality and folks can never see the tears actually roll down my stubbly cheeks.

Kandzt... you are funny! But I can only hope to aspire, one day, to being a useful idiot, so kudos to any member who managed to get in the VIP room... even if they are only there to get the cheap drugs for the vips and provide droll amusement. One thing I can say with some assurance, despite the reflective surfaces showing each of us our deepest desires, mine being coffee fro-yo, is that you, Kandzt, have decent taste in music and a good, arcane sense of meta analysis.

And Gut, I shall miss you most of all... wait, I'm not going anywhere, so scratch that. Oh, and since I'm mentioning posters and not adding anything really useful, I'll throw in Abeverage... just because.

So yes... Tetra (and all, heh), I can certainly see your angle of thought. The questions remain in regards to your feelings... is FL tantalizing to folks of our ilk because of what they're doing, or is it drawing us in, after languishing in relative obscurity for years, as some function or goal to collect internet detritus and mental instability for "observation?"

I would venture that they are interesting in their own right and are probably not a DARPA honey trap. But then, I've always been a trusting soul ... thus my reliance on pain killers! Funding, however... and thus proprietary control over resulting methods and information... veeeery possible (nods over to the digestive apparatus).

Oh, how I wish I was smarter...

Edit: as usual, more forgotten language of my own... I am wondering when Sept rolls through, if there will be an event, or non... there is an interesting confluence of noise about Sept... and that, again, draws the chicken or egg question out. Are the FL guys exploiting that "alternative narrative" fact or are they stating what they have found independently? Followed by an exponential amount of more ? And, by gosh, in writing that addendumb, I forgot point two... which was the point, really, of this edit... sigh.


And ... not the forgotten point, BUT as far as "cult" building... the average to better cults WISHES they were as intriguing to canny free thinkers as these guys are... that is a cult I wouldn't mind joining, if only to scam on the prettier bait girlies.

Someone sent me a link from FL in response to a request, and I ran across the following under the title:

"Orbs and the new generation of deceptive weapons: Mimicking high-energy plasma balls to obfuscate RS probes"

"A large ball, like lightning, would have a bright silvery-metallic appearance by day, and shine brightly by night. Irregularities in the field could produce light or dark spots on a ball; the color could vary, depending on the effective surface temperature. A row of evenly spaced lights might arise from a circular form of bead lightning, which probably consists of a standing longitudinal electric current wave. Intense heat, light and ultraviolet light would be radiated, as well as possibly radio interference or microwaves."

“The deployment of the system over the skies of Mexico City proved how efficient these remote sensing probes are; that our orbs can be seen both with the naked eye, and that they leave a radar signature, means the system is now mature”

"Electromagnetically-Induced Transparency (EIT) may be defined as the reduction (or ideally, elimination) of resonant absorption, or enhancement of transmission, of a probe (also called signal) EM field in an otherwise opaque medium, via the prior application of a suitably intense, suitably-tuned, suitably-enveloped pump (or drive, or control) EM field."

Here's just a couple of the listings from the bibliography of the report:

FL-040710 Calibration of Military Orbs Using Ground Geometric Patterns

FL-210911 Evaluating Public and Mass-Media Reactions to Military Orbs and Tier-III Advance Weapons: the deployment of flotillas in Central America

Fascinating stuff.

forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org...

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By golly, that almost makes some sense... in a way. But why Mexico? Then again... why not?

An anti rv weapon/device? A remote-sensing anti remote-viewing muons using plasma probe? Although it might as well be pseudo-scientific gobbly gook to this armchair PBS "physicist," that would compute more than many guesses as to what those things in the late 90's early 2000's in Mexico were... and are.

Whose are they (supposedly)? If it was implied, I missed it and since it is late on a weekend night I bet it's my lack of reading comprehension... but good find. Really interesting, as usual, and not a familiar speculation in the UFO and crackpot world.

But once more, it's a speculative kick starter. Thanks.

Then again, the pic looks like that series of "plasma balls" that is all the rage at ATS- dubbed the "best ufo video ever." It could be a dry witted jab at ATS folks... OR... ?

As they are saying that the development had matured, or something to that effect, that would imply whomever wrote the article thought it was "terrestrial" organization (oh yes, the military mentioned in the bibliography) as opposed to a millenniums old extra-solar or extra-dimensional civilization ... right?

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"1 The Sign is nothing else than the mark left by an operation. The house constructed by the architect is the sign of his handicraft whereby his skill and art are determined. Thus the sign is the achievement itself. - De Colica.

2 The earth also has its Astrum, its course, its order, just as much as the Firmament, but peculiar to the element. So also there is an Astrum in the water, even as in the earth, and in like manner with air and fire. Consequently, the upper Astrum has the Astra of the elements for its medium and operates through them by an irresistible attraction. Through this operation of the superior and inferior Astra, all things are fecundated, and led on to their end. - Explicatio Totius Astronomiae. Without the Astra the elements cannot flourish. ... In the Astrum of the earth all the celestial operations thrive. The Astrum itself is hidden, the bodies are manifest. ... The motion of the earth is brought about by the Astrum of the earth. ... There are four Astra in man (corresponding to those of the four elements), for he is the lesser world. - De Caducis"


The Treasure of Treasures for Alchemists.
Philippus Theophrastus Bombast
1894

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Those are Foo fighters aren't they, high energy plasma balls that show up on radar, wonder who was using them in 1945 to try and interfere with the mass destruction of German cities...?


A more direct link.

Fine since we are taking this tangent.

1894 Nikola Tesla applies for U.S. Patent 0,514,170 ("Incandescent Electric Light)

In 1898 Tesla demonstrates a remote controlled boat "teleautomaton" at Madison Square Garden.

In 1899 a phosphor coated gas discharge lamp illuminated by wireless electricity

From FL

"The plasma ball is formed when a lightning stroke induces a circular eddy current in a pocket of plasma adjacent to the lightning channel. As the eddy current absorbs energy from the stroke, it would necessarily exert a back-EMF on the channel, causing a voltage drop across the region. This “bottleneck” in the channel could cause a tremendous amount of energy to become concentrated in the region and transferred to the ball."

Text lifted by FL from this document on creating ball lightening

Why Tesla? Every good ATS thread with secret societies and UFO's should at least mention him. And his ideas pretty much show he would have been capable of creating a free floating plasma ball.

I doubt it will be very useful, but I added it just cause...

If the following papers exist and are valid, and I tend to think they are, how does one get access to them? 'Cause I want that access, too, as long as I don't have to make a pledge to nobody that is.

FL-040710 Calibration of Military Orbs Using Ground Geometric Patterns

FL-210911 Evaluating Public and Mass-Media Reactions to Military Orbs and Tier-III Advance Weapons: the deployment of flotillas in Central America

Are they military or academic documents? Or neither? Just previous FL research, I reckon, but is there any real-world basis to them?

My mind is still spinning and whirling over this info and it's implications. I've seen a huge "orb" that could only be described as plasma-like. Hence my extreme interest when I came across the FL research material. I don't know what the heck it was, but I did get the feeling that one of the possibilities was that it could've been "alive."

Funny thing is, I saw it not far from the American stomping grounds of Werner von Braun (Marshall Space Flight Center) so "human-controlled" doesn't now seem all that far-fetched either. I sometimes have the eerie feeling that we're all gonna wake up one day soon and find that we've stepped into some strange Hollywood-type spectacle of a world.

After the end of the war with Germany in May 1945, a program was initiated to bring to the United States a number of scientist and engineers who had been at the center of Germany's advanced military technologies. The largest and best-known activity was called Operation Paperclip. In August 1945, 127 missile specialists led by Wernher von Braun signed work contracts with the U.S. Army's Ordnance Corps. Most of them had worked on the V-2 missile development under von Braun at Peenemünde. Von Braun and the other Germans were sent to Fort Bliss, Texas, joining the Army's newly formed Research and Development Division Sub-office (Rocket).

For the next five years, von Braun and the German scientists and engineers were primarily engaged in adapting and improving the V-2 missile for U.S. applications; testing was conducted at nearby White Sands Proving Grounds, New Mexico. Von Braun had long had a great interest in rocketry for space science and exploration. Toward this, he was allowed to use a WAC Corporal rocket as a second stage for a V-2; the combination, called Bumper, reached a record-breaking 250 miles (400 km) altitude.[1]

During World War II, the production and storage of ordnance shells was conducted by three arsenals nearby to Huntsville, Alabama. After the war, these were mainly closed, and the three areas were combined to form Redstone Arsenal. In October 1948, the Chief of Ordnance designated Redstone Arsenal as the center of research and development activities in free-flight rockets and related items,

en.wikipedia.org...

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You want to talk to this guy:

Dr. Joseph Mangano serves as the Program Manager of the Advanced Lithography program and oversees efforts designed to revolutionize semiconductor lithography technology through accelerated research of highly innovative technical approaches that enable pattern transfer to wafers of features of 100 nm and below. The program emphasizes reducing technical barriers in the major lithography technologies, including exposure sources and areas relevant to more than one technology option. From 1984 to2004, Dr. Mangano served as a Vice President and Senior Research Scientist at Science Research Laboratory a company he cofounded, where he led programs in the development of laser diode pulsed power; solid-state pulsed drivers for powering excimer lasers used in DUV lithography; electromagnetic shockline technology; and electrostatic accelerator technology used for positron emission tomography, dual-energy, digital-subtraction angiography and mammography, and boron-neutron capture therapy for treating cancers of the brain. While at SRL, Dr. Mangano authored the following inventions: (1) a fault detection algorithm for high power semiconductor junctions, (2) EUV and 1 nm soft X-ray sources used in next-generation Lithography, (3) a method of isolating adult hematopoietic stem cells using pulsed electric field cell selection technology, (4) a method of purging malignant cells from bone marrow transplants using pulsed electric field cell selection technology, and (5) a method of purging leukocytes and bacteria from platelet transfusions using high peak power x-ray sources. From 1978 to 1984, Dr. Mangano served as the Program Manager, Division Director, and Deputy Office Director for DARPA where he led programs in excimer lasers, free electron lasers, particle beam technology, and blue-green submarine laser communications. He served on various scientific advisory groups within the Office of the Secretary of Defense, including the Defensive Technologies Study Team that provided planning for the formation of the President's Strategic Defense Initiative (now, the Missile Defense Agency). Dr. Mangano earned S.B., S.M., E.E., and Ph.D. degrees in Electrical Engineering and Plasma Physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He holds five patents and has four patents pending. Dr. Mangano has written more than 40 publications in technical journals and numerous technical reports. He is an active member of IEEE, APS, Sigma Xi, and the Cosmos Club.

Source


Hope this helps, his email is listed in the link

reply to post by Brotherman
Fascinating, brotherman, thank you! He's a DARPA guy, huh? How do you think his work applies to the "plasma orb" issue?

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Because of his background in biology (biology in regards to technology in the med field) and in plasma and laser sciences, If anything at FL they are concerned with the human aspect (and sometimes I suppose other then earth entities) this would be where I would direct my questions to as his background couples in both fields.

Originally posted by Brotherman
Because of his background in biology (biology in regards to technology in the med field) and in plasma and laser sciences, If anything at FL they are concerned with the human aspect (and sometimes I suppose other then earth entities) this would be where I would direct my questions to as his background couples in both fields.

Biology AND plasma physics. Yeah, I see. That would also then, wouldn't it, possibly, tie in with the other FL research we've seen here that referenced the possibility of some kind of "lifeform" associated with electromagnetics?

Biology AND plasma physics. Yeah, I see. That would also then, wouldn't it, possibly, tie in with the other FL research we've seen here that referenced the possibility of some kind of "lifeform" associated with electromagnetics?

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I believe it possibly could tie in, I would have a hard time accepting what they are doing would not have certain aspects to manipulation of consciousness and/ or lifeforms good or bad. It appears to me that everything discussed is relative to the human/ life/ life form factor. Anything else in my opinion is off topic for them at the least.